Illinois teen arrested in fatal shooting at Kenosha protest, police say

So if it said, he hit him with a skateboard and tried to pull his gun away before he was killed, what would that change? It was a brawl with lethal weapons. Hitting someone other a skateboard and then being shot makes the skateboard quite irrelevant at the end of the day.

 

The narrative changes if you mention one was killed while hitting the shooter in the head with a skateboard after a crowd during a riot chased him down.

Beyond that, ZERO mention of the third victim, who survived, pulling a gun and pointing it at the shooters face from feet away.

The shooter took one, well aimed shot, and blew his elbow out, eliminating the threat without having to shoot him numerous times in the chest although he likely should have. It was a hell of a shot.

 

Much less so for me.

This is valid. But in full context, it’s very likely he did that to ensure someone who already killed someone didn’t kill anyone else.

Being a great marksman won’t matter much as a convicted felon...I must be getting old. I admire restraint over killing.

 

It depends why he killed someone. If he killed someone because he felt like Rambo, you're absolutely right.

If he killed someone because the guy seen on video antagonizing the mob of gun owners minutes before this whole event went down was chasing him across the parking lot trying to kill him, well, then he made the mistake of trying to intervene in a situation that didn't involve him.

Perfect! Then this should be easy for you to agree with...

Watch the video and you should agree Kyle did nothing wrong, showing restraint the entire event. The third guy runs up with his hands up while Kyle is on the ground. Kyle aims his rifle, and doesn't shoot. Now, keep watching... the guy pretending to be unarmed with his hands in the air, now pulls out a pistol and aims it at Kyle's face, but he hesitates.

Only at that point does Kyle pull the trigger and shoot the guy one time in his elbow eliminating the threat without shooting him repeatedly.

Kyle showed restraint. He didn't fire wildly into the crowd. He didn't just start shooting random people. He shot one guy (the guy we all saw antagonizing the crowd) only after that guy caught up to him in a parking lot. He shot the second guy only after the guy attacked him. He shot the third guy, not when the dude ran up to him at full speed, but only after the guy pulled a pistol and aimed it at his face.

How much more restraint is there?

You must love this guy.

 

Yep. That's assault. The moment a person flees, your ability, as a civilian, to legally use force against him ends.

Let me know when that happens.

 

The intentional implication that Rittenhouse shot the guy with the skateboard w/o provocation.

 

Right.
I have yet to see evidence of what initiated the sequence of events here - the earliest video in that sequence of events I saw has Rittemhouse standing with a group of people, and then runs away. Everything ensues after that.
If that's the start, then there's no way for the state to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he did not act in self-defense.

 

It goes against the narrative that he went to kill people which many on this very forum are pushing.

 

Out of desperation.
They somehow believe going to another state negates your right to self-defense.

 

I'm happy to let the courts decide if Rittenhouse is guilty or not


If he ends up with OJ's lawyers that's fine by me.

 

He is not a Kenosha Wisconsin resident!!

 

So what

 

Well done. I think we all knew that already. Any other bombshells?

 

Neither was any of the three people he shot.

Is that also a relevant detail?

They make such a big deal of Kyle going to protect a place where he didn't live, but do they consider all the people who went there to destroy a place where they didn't live?

 

Everything in Kyle's background points to a kid who has a hero complex. He was a "badge bunny" who hero worshipped uniformed public servants like cops and firefighters. There are pictures of him wearing a police cadet uniform, and another wearing firefighter gear. There's been no indications that he was into anything military or militia related, or belonged to any sort of quasi-military group of any sort. It was all local community public service related- cops, firefighters, paramedics.

The only thing that ties him to any sort of militia would seem to be the unsupported and slanderous accusations that have sprung from the twisted imaginations of certain bitter Trump haters and politicians and pundits that have no use for the truth.

There is irrefutable proof that Kyle was engaged in volunteer public service work on the very day of the incident, and every video taken of him before the shootings that that night supports the claim that he was there engaging in property protection and rendering first aid. The same cannot be said of the first person who Kyle shot, as there is irrefutable proof that he was there picking fights, and being as aggressive and hostile jackass.

There was a video of Kyle carrying a fire extinguisher that was taken at around the same time as a video of a man putting out a dumpster fire with a fire extinguisher was recorded.

Oh, and we need to address that little bit of drama-

The riot rats had set fire to a dumpster, and they were in the process of pushing the burning dumpster TOWARDS A GAS STATION when the man is seen to extinguish the flames, and earn himself the ire and scorn of the riot rats for his efforts.

Yes, pushing a flaming dumpster towards a gas station. This is the sort of the galaxy-brained shenanigans those dangerous nitwits were engaged in... for justice. Gas station dumpster fires of justice.

Yeah, but Kyle is the bad guy for DRIVING ACROSS STATE LINES! ZOMG! to try and prevent a bunch of utter lunatics from turning Kenosha into a gigantic smoking crater with their gas station explosion of justice.

 

I don't think we know what he was thinking, but his two deadly encounters seem to have featured Rittenhouse running away. I doubt someone with murderous intent lays out plans with himself retreating rapidly.

 

We should focus on what happened, not on who the kid is.

Geezuz, take a deep breath.

Nothing good can come of a pudgy, starry-eyed 17-year-old carrying an assault rifle in a riot area. That kid was in over his head.

 

And... more video released showing the BLM rioters, who attempted to push a flaming dumpster into a gas station, agitating the gun owners, who stopped and put out the fire in said dumpster. They're throwing things, swinging bats, and one genius even pulls out his gun and racks it.

So at that point, everyone knew there were weapons in both groups.

And who do we see trying to cause chaos?

Mr. Dipshit, aka shooting victim #1, aka "guy who thinks irs a good idea to chase a person with a rifle".

Kyle is going to walk.

Democrats, yet again, jumped on a story before having the facts, and once again, they're going to feel real stupid when this is all over.

But it won't matter. Theyll forget this incident as quickly as they made it up once this kid walks.

 

FALSE. Arizona's law only protects sex between 2 minors. So a 15 and 17 year old can. A year later it is illegal.

 

That differs from what the reporter said. The whole case will be made or broken on what transpired before the chase. Likely this gets pled down but the friend who gave him the gun and the adults who knew about him get serious charges.

 

The chasers could have easily de-escalated and stopped their pursuit, lol.

 

Yes, but his case depends on whether he illegally threatened or brandished before things started.

 

Not really. Kyle was running away when he shot all three of the suspects. Kyle attempted to de-escalate, and the idiots that got shot were not de-escalating.
That's really all that matters. By the time the first chase started, there are absolutely no reports of Kyle injuring anyone.

 

Does it not seem odd that the child with his hands on a gun approaches a police car, after the police have told him to stop over their speaker, yet he is still alive? In fact he was allowed to leave despite several people shouting that he just shot some people.

 

Did he wrestle with the officers or point his weapon at them? Cops don't just shoot everyone that has a weapon but who is not threatening anyone.