I'm no stock expert, but DJT goin' down, eh?

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Donald Trump, despite lying about it, has not ever funded his own campaign in any significant way. He started grifting his base long ago just after he promised never to use anybody else's money. Used the large part of the campaign money or his legal bills. He has yet to use his own money for his legal bills.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Forbes has a lengthy article on where Joe Biden's finances come from google it
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Why doesn't Comer and Jordan impeach?

    They can't, there is no evidence.

    Why didn't David Weiss charge influence peddling , corruption, and money laundering?

    He can't, because after six years he knows there is no evidence.

    I've looked at every piece of evidence his report. None of it points to Joe Biden

    Nothing.

    PUOSU.
     
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    Chemistry. However, the major part of my job description involves research, which means getting grants to keep the lab running.
     
  5. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Just don't "break bad" :)
     
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    The impeachment inquiry is still ongoing...

    Joe Biden is being invited to give his input into the whole Biden family dealings.... looks like his golden opportunity to clear his name.

    ""The Bidens received $15 million from China, Ukraine, Russia, Kazakhstan, and Romania and the Oversight Committee traced how $40,000 from CEFC, a Chinese government linked energy company, landed in Joe Biden’s bank account. During the investigation’s interview and deposition phase, Biden family associates provided evidence of Joe Biden’s knowledge of and participation in his family’s business schemes.""

    https://oversight.house.gov/release/chairman-comer-invites-president-biden-to-testify-before-the-oversight-committee/
    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/2024-03-28-CJC-letter-to-JRB.pdf

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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Are you saying that when folks are saying he's going to be worth $5 billion, but forced to wait 6 months before he can cash in, that there is a likelihood the stocks will be practically worthless, or close to it, by then (the reason he was required to wait 6 months, I suspect)???
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm already 73, so it's kinda too late. Besides, never earned a lot of money, in the first place, was a wedding photographer for years, on the low end of the market, also a jazz musician (pays low). My retirement social security isn't much. I'm hoping some other irons in the fire might pan out. I do have 100% equity in a house, but there is no point in selling it, I have to live somewhere and I don't want to leave California, the weather, the beaches, I'm spoiled.
     
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    Or buying stock in a company with no visible business plan and losing by huge margins?
    Wanna take bets on the language spoken by the big investor(s)?
    My money goes on 80% or more speak Arabic as their primary language. Russian and Korean next, English a distant 4th.
    The Saudi government already "invested" $2 billion in his son in law. They can't give him cash by campaign laws but they can pay ludicrous prices for stock in his company. Look at the timing, he can begin selling his stock in September, just in time for a campaign or get out of jail card.
     
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    The board is stacked with Trump lackeys and even Don Jr. is on there. They could easily vote to let him sell stock immediately.

    My hobby is photography. I never envied professional photographers, I guess it is not an easy way to make money, especially now with AI taking over.

    I guess I was lucky in choosing my profession. I was also lucky that I had great advisors and mentors, especially the char of the department of my first faculty position. He helped me so much, and was a big factor in why I have got tenure and have always been successful maintaining funding for the lab. You don't get f you rich in academia, but once tenured at a state school, it is a pretty safe job and with prudent saving and investing, one can get a good retirement nest egg. I am 59, I could retire today, but not comfortably. However, I really like my job and just got another 4-year grant, so it looks like I'll definitely stay until I'm 65. If nothing goes wrong, I should have a really cushy retirement balance by then.
     
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    Too bad trump keeps missing all his golden opportunities to clear his name in all of his trials, and prefers to keep delaying the inevitable so he can fleece more money from useful idiots.
    And maga will keep flogging its impeachment attempts ad nauseam since they have nothing else to run on.
     
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    Ain't capitalism beautiful?
     
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    That is what he claimed in 2016. Yet he ended up spending about 20% of the total expenditures for his campaign. The rest was from solicited donations, putting a lie to his assertion he won't owe anyone anything if elected.
     
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    https://www.vox.com/politics/2024/3/29/24115881/truthsocial-trump-djt-stock-share-price
    So no, not until October. While if I'm right the Saudi king is the big push behind it's value and won't care if he cashes in, there are are others who might sue and lock up the money. He can't really take the risk. His biggest concern now is getting to October, not in prison, so he can then sell. Should he no longer be a viable candidate because of conviction(s) then look for it to become at best a penny stock. Any bank that isn't Russian that lets him use it for collateral will also lose it's CEO so I don't see that working for him.
     
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    I agree you are not an expert.

    Stocks go up and down all the time.
     
  16. fmw

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    There is no point in impeaching him.

    They can. No evidence is required. Impeachment is a political action no a judicial one. All that is required is enough votes in the house. So he can't because there are not enough votes in the house.

    Because you can't indict a president?

    There is a pile of evidence but no proof.

    You may want to go beyond what is in the report. It isn't hard to find. I'm sure a search engine expert like you can dig it up.
     
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    Do they cover the hidden finances as well? Probably not. I don't use google. Google is an enemy for me.
     
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    I believe he funded his 2016 primary campaign. At least that is what I remember. I doubt you can prove that he has never paid for legal services. Proving a negative is basically impossible.
     
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    He teaches college level chemistry. I offer that only because he hasn't
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    People don't understand how the digital revolution ruined photography for many pro photographers (mainly for those on the low end, those on the high end still are doing well, however).

    Photography used to be interesting because it was difficult. But now one can take a respectable photo with an Iphone, with no knowledge. A cell phone can do things that my DSLR cannot do (but vice versa, too). Photography became so easy with digital that it just wasn't fun any more. Stock photographers were really hurt, destroyed the value of stock shots. Via the real time proofing function of the screen on a digital camera, where it used to take a couple of years for a novice to get the skill and confidence to shoot a wedding on a film camera, shortened that period to a couple of months, so that, on the low end, there is a glut of photographers shooting weddings for practically nothing. After about 400 weddings, I got burnt out, and then my back wouldn't let me stand up for more than 2 hours anyway, it was time to quit. but, I still have my piano and guitar, and AI won't replace a good, live, musician, ever, though I'm sure they will try. AI will create some respectable sounding music, but it will never be 'inspired', which good music always is.
     
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    I dunno, but Atty Chris Kise got a $3 million payment up front precisely because of Trump's deadbeat reputation
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-tr...-million-advance-payment-for-work-11663264788

    https://www.salon.com/2021/02/02/tr...3m-in-legal-fees-despite-raising-170m-report/

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

    https://www.motherjones.com/politic...sive-history-trump-business-deals-gone-wrong/
     
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    I hope those links weren't intended to correct my post. You are trying to prove a negative and that is impossible.
     
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    When Devin Nunes is the “ceo” there’s no reason to expect any real future.
     
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    No, he did not.

    The first principle in real estate is “other people’s money”. In the case of crooked ones, don’t pay your bills.

    The 2016 Trump campaign left a trail of unpaid bills behind, as is Trump’s standard practice. It also went broke right after the GOP convention.

    Robert Mercer bailed him out, in addition to installing Kelly Ann Conway and Bannon in the campaign.
     
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    If there is documentary evidence of Joe's corruption then Repubs have all they need to impeach. But there isn't, so they don't.
     

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