In Several Decades, "Europe Will Become a Single Islamic State"

Well, if you wish to discuss history, the Arabs did at one point try to take control in Western Europe as far north as France, but were checked by Charles Martel in 732 A.D. In Eastern and Central Europe, the Ottomans did wage wars driven by their annexation ambitions against Austria (Battle of Vienna 1526, 1683), Poland and Ukraine (Chocim 1621, Kamieniec 1671), and Russia. The Ottomans did manage annexations in that region as far as Hungary and Slovakia.

 

I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I think that you are being wildy optimisitic. As has been pointed out, Muslims will be a large bloc of united voters in the next few decades.

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Ah, sure.


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-inob20I_Y0"]Belgium - Militant Muslims - YouTube[/ame]


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For every hysterical fundamentalist Muslim video you dredge up I can also put up a video of equally hysterical Christians, Jews and pretty much every other religious cult.

 

They took much of Asia, North Africa, and Spain didn't they?

They invaded deeply into France, and to the very gates of Vienna. If the Europeans had lost a few more key battles, and history could have been radically different. A European fleet also defeated a Turkish Fleet off the Western coast of Greece bound for Italy. The problems in the Balkans are largely echos from Islamic conquest attempts. Greece also suffered Muslim occupation until the 19th century.


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You and Jan need to mention "hysterical" just five more times in order to defeat me utterly.

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No you cannot.

 

Oh yes I can. Here's one:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axjdj35EEo8&feature=related"]Hysterical Preacher, Glasgow 30/08/2011 - YouTube[/ame]

 

I don't know about the liberals' predesposition towards the Muslims, but they generally don't concern themselves with the future implications of their actions, as they mostly respond to the needs which will gain them power and privelage here and now.

 

The muslims conquered my country (Portugal) and during their rule portuguese lived better than under christian middle age rule.

 

You might have missed it but it's no middle age no more and no one nowadays lives well under the Islamic rule, not even the Muslims.

 

I'd make a post and point out the obvious inaccuracy of the OP again, but apparently continual inaccurate racist spamming of what is supposed to be the Latest World News is fine, but pointing that out is not.

Racist rubbish is taking over the board, not the world....and not UK. The thread premise is the usual agenda-spamming nonsense.

 

Right, I'm sure their parents will be very accepting of their kids desires to leave Islam. I mean, it's not like Saudi Arabia is 100% Muslim, or anything. Followers in the religion of peace have plenty of religious freedoms.

The punishment for apostasy in Islam is death.

“The punishment for apostasy (riddah) is well-known in Islaamic Sharee'ah. The one who leaves Islaam will be asked to repent by the Sharee'ah judge in an Islaamic country; if he does not repent and come back to the true religion, he will be killed as a kaafir and apostate, because of the command of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): "Whoever changes his religion, kill him." (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 3017).

 

We actually have an S-mart down the street from where I work. I always laugh when I drive by.

 

Wrong, it's close to 5% as of last year. 4.6%, based on Pew research studies from 2010. I have seen reports of the doubling population within 20 years, but that would bring the Muslim population to possibly 10%, not 5%.

And your claim about "most Muslims" integrating with British culture is not as powerful as you probably think it is. 40% want Sharia, 1 in 3 support killing in the name of their religion. And that is based on the answers of people who are actually willing to admit to these goals. Lying to non-Muslims is not only allowed, but encouraged in Islam, if the goal is to advance Islam. No one truly knows how radical the Muslim population is in Britain, but it is almost certainly higher than this article claims, and obviously higher than you think it is.

You have 80+ Islamic courts in Britain being backed by the British legal system. You have no-go zones in major British cities. I'd suggest you open your eyes to reality. Within just the last 10 years you've nearly had a doubling of the Muslim population in your country. This trend will continue, as the British continue having 1 perfect child per couple, which halves their population every 35 years, with Muslims having 3-5 children per couple. Demographics are not on your side. But, at least Britain won't be the first Euro country to fall. France is already 10% Muslim. They're doomed.

 

The minds of Euros have rotted away long ago due to cultural marxism and their Euro socialist welfare states. Although, for an even longer period of time, Euros have largely been a spineless bunch in the face of impending fascism.

 

Sounds like you are the one bent on race, in this conversation. Neither Don nor myself have made any comments talking about "white" countries, whereas you have mentioned it twice so far. There are plenty of white Muslims in Britain, and they pose just as much of a threat as their Arab counterparts.

 

Europe would have been conquered by the Islamic army hundreds of years ago if they weren't defeated at the Gates of Vienna.

 

I live in europe and I never had problems with muslims, I went to local mosque and survived.
I am not a bit worried about muslims.

 

Last time I was in Saudi and in a few Gulf states , Kuwait etc., the average citizen seem to enjoy a very high standard of living No Homeless, ( Foreclosures) Everyone seem to be well fed , free medical attention, if local hospitals , cant cope , then patients are flown anywhere else in the world . Schools . Universities are free .


So they cant "vote " - so what ? What's the use of a Vote to americans who are unemployed and who've lost their homes stuggling to feed and clothe their families ?
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Same here. I've not been to a mosque anymore than I've bothered visiting a Synagogue . Hindu or Sikh Temple.

As for Europe becoming an "Islamic state" - LOL anyone who believes that would believe anything .


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You sure have a point, a tiny fraction of Arabs lucky enough to be born in oil rich arab states have money. They have no freedoms, they have no democracy, their women are oppressed and the men don't fare much better but at least their standard of living is pretty good. Never mind that 99% of their less fortunate brethren in Egypt, Indonesia and elsewhere live in squalor but hey, 1% is doing just fine financially so all is well in the Islamic world, isn't it? LOL

 

Other than abortion doctors, I didn't know Christians were going around killing people for drawing pictures of Jesus, being a proud atheist, being gay, or any other blasphemous acts. The very things Muslims believe deserve death penalties for.

 

You should have stopped here. If you were referring to Europe of course. Unless you meant Constantinople, the capital of Christianity, that is now Istanbul. I would hope not though, because that would be incorrect also.

This is where you get ridiculous. I would point out the absurdity in this, but the other posters have already pointed out the errors in this.

 

the liberals or the muslims?