Infrastructure costs from Immigration

Discussion in 'Budget & Taxes' started by Anders Hoveland, Jun 9, 2011.

  1. OldManOnFire

    OldManOnFire Well-Known Member

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    Maybe you should read some of the official polling of Americans. Seldom is illegal immigration even in the top 20 concerns, and when it is, it's usually 2-3% at best!

    http://www.pollingreport.com/prioriti.htm
     
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    Which 'large' corporations are hiring illegals?

    Where is proof that illegals in the USA are suppressing wages?
     
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    Why should there be tax increases when so much of the money is given away to people who could work, but won't work. They could take the same kind of jobs illegal aliens take.
     
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    The entire discussion simply boils down to xenophobia. To have xenophobia means a person has fear, is afraid of others, feels challenged by their presence. We're all just humans typically seeking the same things in life. Seems we're controlled by our petty jealousy and greed and self-serving behavior and just don't have interest in others today. Compassion and empathy are forgotten words now replaced with political soundbites for the naive and ignorant. Things might improve in another 100-200 years...
     
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    Were Tecumseh, Crazy Horse and Geronimo xenophobes? No. They were the resistance against the replacement population.
     
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    You also need to study American history?! 160 years ago the USA by force took and northern territory of Mexico. This included Texas, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, and California! They weren't brought here...they've always been here! Not only did we take their land, but we also got all the natural resources with it; oil, gold, silver, water, etc.

    Somehow taking the entire northern territory of Mexico was okay but a few illegals in the USA today is not okay...
     
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    Your referenced article has nothing to do with my question??

    "Can you identify a couple of things that you believe illegals cause 'America to fall apart at the seams'?"

    No where in your article does it imply the guy is an illegal?

    Last I read there were about 17,000 murders in the US per year. I cannot imagine how this one guy is 'causing America to come apart at the seams'?
     
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    That's flat out false. The Mexica (Aztecs) and other Nahuatl speaking peoples were never present in New Mexico, Arizona, California, and Texas. The indigenous peoples of those states were from a different language group that mostly died out because of disease and genocide.

    The Mexicans who come here are mostly Mestizos, with some Nuhuatl speakers thrown in. The Mestizos of Mexico have no prior connection to any of the states of the USA. They are totally foreign.
     
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    Jaime Guevara was my neighbor amigo until he shot two men in the head. He came here from Jalisco when he was 16 years old amigo. He came to live la vida pistolero. He doesn't speak English. That's why he has a court translator to translate everything into Spanish. He isn't a product of the public schools in this country amigo.
     
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    There are lots of illegals in the construction industry taking the jobs of Americans. For those unemployed American construction workers it feels like America has come apart at the seams.

    The dope dealing illegal alien who knocked out my teeth converted me from gun opposition to being a gun carrying citizen. That's a pretty big change isn't it?
     
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    http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/06000.html

    California has financial problems because of stupid economic decisions in CA government...and no other reason...
     
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    I can't imagine that Californians feel the same threat that Geronimo might have felt. Now...if illegals were coming into the USA, all of them armed and ready to kill anyone that got in their way, terrorizing and confiscating as they migrate, then I would agree to some similarities...
     
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    You have taken my words out of context.

    They were in response to why we have so many Latinos in the USA today...
     
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    I simply read the article you referenced which did not indicate if he was a citizen or not. I am unaware of any statistics that show the crime rate for Latinos is higher than the crime rate for Anglos?? Or the crime rate for illegals being high??
     
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    Why do you suppose Americans cannot compete with illegals in any job?
     
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    No where on the site is the number of illegal aliens in California listed. Show me a link for the number of illegal aliens in California. Thanks for your help.

    Get rid of the defined benefit pension plans with their guaranteed payouts to public sector employees. That will go a long way toward making California solvent again. That's what Democratic Governor Jerry Brown proposes in some fashion, but the public sector unions refuse to give up the good times.
     
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    Jaime Guevara came to my neighborhood to live the Sureno life. Do you have Surenos or Nortenos in your neighborhood? If someone wears red in my neighborhood his life isn't going to continue much longer.
     
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    I presume you are an educated man. If you can't defend what you have written then why write in the first place?
     
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    In Santa Cruz Country where I live most White people are older and the majority of younger people are Mexican. Old people don't commit violent crimes because they aren't physically capable of perpetrating the act or they are not so inclined. Most older White people don't belong to dope dealing gangs like the Surenos or Nortenos or MS-13. There just aren't that many young white people around in my neighborhood.
     
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    Poor education and crass culture that doesn't value hard work. Mexicans will work hard whether it's in picking strawberries or dealing dope.
     
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    There are over 2.5 Mil Illegals south of Bakersfield alone .
     
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    Someone tell ShivaTD that just Illegals and their costs on California will hurt the Rest of America pronto .
     

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