Iran called Trump's bluff

Exactly, it is not up to the Trump administration. Let us hope that Trump's year long provocation directed at Iran ends now, and Pompeo and Bolton keep their mouths shut.

And if Iran wants to do what Trump did -- withdraw from the JCPOA -- then there is nothing much Trump can say or do. In the meantime our allies, the EU, are working with Iran to circumvent Trump's sanctions.

You have to admit, Trump has made a real mess of this issue by taking the U.S. out of the agreement.

 

No, Sandy, I do not agree that Trump did anything 'wrong' by getting the U. S. out of an "agreement" which could not be intelligently enforced. As I've pointed out many times, the Iranians had said that they were going to make fully-compliant inspections IMPOSSIBLE by forbidding them at any place that they unilaterally decreed to be "military". Interesting that as many times as you've tried to dance around this bold, in-your-face fact, you've never completely denied it....

Obama already gave the Iranians the by-now infamous 'pallets of cash', flown in on special transport planes, so, that particular 'bargaining chip' is lost. So, Trump has done the only thing he thinks he can do, short of bombing the Islamo-priests out of existence -- more sanctions (no, I'm not a big believer in 'sanctions', either). Now we'll see how it all plays out. Our thermobaric weapons are always ready to be used if they are needed....

In the meantime, Iran will go on doing whatever it likes with nuclear technology... the Obama/Kerry farsical 'agreement' never did anything meaningful to stop that anyway. But, if Iran can just refrain now from interfering with commerce in international waters and in international airspace, at least there won't have to be 'hot' conflict in which Iran can only be the big (BIG) loser....

 

It does not matter what Iran says now. The JCPOA permanently banned Iran from making a nuke. The IAEA is able to inspect all sites, including military ones. I proved all that.

Why do you insist on believing the Iranians and not the IAEA, our European allies, and sources?

The cash Iran got was Iran's cash.

Trump made a serious mistake removing the U.S. from the agreement and replacing it with harsh language, threats, and sanctions. That was just plain stupid. I proved that, too, this thread.

 

Yes, Sandy, the "cash Iran got was Iran's cash"... nobody, including me, ever denied that. You state the obvious... have fun with saying that. No one will argue with you about that... or that the Earth orbits the sun, or other fascinating realities....

I believe what the Iranians say about the "deal" because when you mash all the bullshit out of it, they are the only ones who make the decisions about whether to be honest, or to cheat.

I have pointed out countless times that they have said that there will be NO inspections whatsoever at any place they unilaterally declare to be "military", and I provided proof that they said that at the highest levels of the Iranian government, repeatedly. You refuse to believe it... and your inability to understand this is probably what perplexes me more than anything else. How many more with your 'mentality' are there...? Evidently the Obama regime was FULL of them... which explains how we ever got into such a laughably defective "deal" in the first place....

. Relax! The U. S. is out of this deal now, Sandy, thanks to improved thinking -- and, Obama's GONE!

 

Until there are new developments, this thread is done.

 

Not quite, Sandy... it bears mentioning that today the Iranians have gone over the uranium-235 limit, in open abrogation of the 'agreement'.

Oh, dear me, it seems rather obvious now, does it not, that Iran is revealing to the OTHER participants in the 'agreement' that they're nothing but a bunch of liars, bullies, and cheats. Indeed, if I were a German today, I would feel like Iran had just rubbed its ass in my face!

Link: https://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Irans-exceeds-300-kg-limit-of-enriched-uranium-594251

But, not to worry! Anytime we choose, we can help the Iranian theorcracy's priesthood get rid of ALL of the excessive amounts of uranium -- and anything else they're holding that threatens the peace of the entire world....

. "...But, but, we've done everything possible to PLEASE those people!"

 

See http://politicalforum.com/index.php...-trump-administration.558090/#post-1070726273 for further developments.