Iran Threatens British Shipping In Retaliation For Tanker Seizure

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  1. Woogs

    Woogs Well-Known Member

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    That proves nothing. Your own link had no proof. You don't, either.
     
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    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So the EU sanction includes Iran not shipping oil to Syria. Can you tell my it was important for you to point this out?
     
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    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Iran did claim it as theirs yet no Iranian flag was flying or documents showing it belonged to Iran. And it bypassed the Suez Canal and took the long route headed towards Syria. It's a duck.
     
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    And with Brexit, neither is Britain. They should not be meddling outside of their territorial waters.
     
  5. flyboy56

    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If the EU issued a sanction against Iran they should enforce it. If they don't the EU looks weak and future sanctions will only be laughed at.
     
  6. Montegriffo

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    You seem to be labouring under the miscomprehension that this is an EU sanction against Iran. It is not. It is a sanction against Syria.
     
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    Ship was too big for the Suez. Try harder.

    Btw, no one is denying that it carried Iranian oil. It is registered as a Panamanian ship, though.
     
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    The ship was seized in Gibraltan territorial waters.
    The Spanish may claim these waters but they are internationally recognised as British.
     
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    The Treaty of Utrecht did not cede Spain's territorial waters to the Brits. Only the town and port.
     
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    You're being obtuse. It is a sanction by the EU preventing any country including Iran from shipping oil to Syria by any means.
     
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    There is no sanction against Iran, the sanction is against Syria. Germany says Iran has the right to sell its oil.
     
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    The EU captured nothing. Spain, France and Germany condemn this
     
  13. Montegriffo

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    The waters around Gibraltar are recognised by the whole world (except Spain) under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea.
     
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    They haven't ''issued a sanction against Iran''.
    As I keep trying to tell you, this action was an enforcement of sanctions against Syria.
     
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    Iran should do evrything it can to get teh bomb as quick as possible. Then talks can start.
     
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    Because he was the one who brought it up. Boring day today or something?
     
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    Wiki has this to say:

    Except for its far eastern end, the Strait lies within the territorial waters of Spain and Morocco. The United Kingdom claims 5.6 km (3.5 mi; 3.0 nmi) around Gibraltar on the northern side of the Strait, putting part of it inside British territorial waters. As this is less than the 22.2 km (13.8 mi; 12.0 nmi) maximum, it means, according to the British claim, that part of the Strait lies in international waters. The ownership of Gibraltar and its territorial waters is disputedby Spain.

    As you can see, no where does it say "the whole world".

    Got a better source? Provide a link.
     
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    It probably is the UK just doing the US bidding believing that makes them still an Imperial Power. Iran says it is no business of the UK what Iran was doing in this particular spot. They apparently gave the UK details of who it was for and it was not Syria but they would not say. The US of course is hoping Iran will do something to get support for a war with Iran. Having said they would not be involved this move suggests the UK is slinking back to its usual position behind the US. Just heard someone from Iran suggesting they were fed up with all this 'poking' as he called it and this time Iran was going to respond and the people of Britain would not like it. He was asked if maybe they would do the same back to the UK but didn't reply. Then I saw himself Bolton doing a Highland Gig when he was told what Britain had done talking about his allies and getting rid of Iran. Iran believes that there is going to be a war against her. That puts her in the position to choose the timing.
     
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    How do you block people on here? I didn't know there were terrorists in this forum that support Iran having nuclear weapons as well as getting off on Americans killed in Iran. DISGUSTING!
     
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    Stick a Russian flag on these tankers and provide an escort.

    Problem solved.
     
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    2. Territorial waters: This convention defined the territorial water baseline as 12 Nautical miles in which parent country is free to set laws, regulate use and use of its resources. Alien vessel are not allowed to enter within the territorial water baseline without permission except innocent passage (Innocent passage” is defined by the convention as passing through waters in an expeditious and continuous manner, which is not β€œprejudicial to the peace, good order or the security” of the coastal state.)

    https://www.bookcopies.com/blog/united-nations-convention-on-the-law-of-the-sea-unclos/
     
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    Because Iran can take plenty of British ships passing through the strait as a tit for tat.
     
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    Caught.... according to who? That matters.
     
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    If so... than so does Iran over the strait that gives access half the middle east. I doubt Iran can just take what they want if it aint theirs, but I guess they do that anyways with a tit for tat.
     
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    Nothing like supporting far right colonialism over brown people.
     

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