Is America Headed for a New Kind of Civil War?

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    I wrote... it's not just the left. And I am right on that one. Plenty from the GOP and CEO's all turned their backs to Trump on this one. And if you mean by "liberals" anything but the bunch of racist fascists,... than yeah well. Good for you buddy.


    So much for you rant of claiming that they were doing God's work. What a fail.
    And are you calling the US army a bunch of thugs now?

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  2. notme

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    What threats were made to them CEO's?
     
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    The Free Speech event in Boston was cut short by
    "Counter Demonstrators" of the Left.


    Don't those on the Right have rights no more?
    I do hope they hire Hell's Angels as their personal security for their next event.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altamont_Free_Concert
    Just like the Rolling Stones did.
    Just in case the Police are unable to maintain order at a duly licensed event.
    It is about time everyone's rights be protected!
     
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    The Germans are projecting. They have a nerve, considering the mess they're making in Europe.
     
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    Merwen Well-Known Member

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    Swamp threats. Do you really believe they would make their blackmail public?
     
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    CEO's likely feared it would be detrimental to their business if the critical left highlighted their roles in Trump's advisory councils.
    Icahn is a major shareholder of "Lyft", what effect would a leftie boycott of the ride-sharing service have on the value of his stock?

    JP Morgan Chase chief executive Jamie Dimon, a member of the Strategy & Policy Forum informed employees he would resign, Chase is a big nationwide bank, how many accounts are held by critical lefties?

    The CEOs of Campbell Soup and the conglomerate 3M resigned from the manufacturing council, don't you think there are lots of lefties who use their products too?

    These executives are invited to contribute on these panels because they may offer insight into how changes in policy may affect their activities, they're large employers and big taxpayers, who've apparently reached the conclusion it was more profitable to quit than deal with a boycott of their diverse businesses.
     
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    New civil war?

    Not likely as drugged up and deluded white supremacists represents only a tiny minority of malcontents who cry because nobody else succumbs to their twisted views of political correctness.
     
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    A few rabid racists won't spark a civil war, but this "resist" movement to oppose anything from the Administration could cause serious problems and lead to a widespread violent reaction. Currently we witness a concerted effort by Democrats in the legislature to delegitimize the President with spurious claims of collusion with the Russians. We'll see what comes of that, Mueller seems to have undertaken a thurough effort, Grand Juries have been convened, evidence gathered, we need to wait for his conclusions, but I doubt he's found that 'smoking gun'. We've had a concerted effort from the intelligence community to leak all sorts of information that implies a lot, but nothing has come of it besides Trump's irritation in knowing matters vital to national security are being disclosed by people who are supposed to be protecting this. There is evidence of contacts, but nothing showing actual collusion, no agreements, no coordinated efforts or plans and no concessions or anything of value given in exchange.

    The investigation has held a cloud over the Administration since Hillary made the accusation, ten months later Trump has been unable to make significant progress with his agenda, Democrats oppose anything as a matter of course, while Republicans are unsure due to the cloud over Trump. Efforts to curtail Muslim immigrants have encountered legal obstructionism, the military has refused to enforce his ban on transgender troops, no funding approved for the wall against undocumented immigrants from Mexico, Obamacare reform or repeal was rejected, his infrastructure projects are going nowhere and the tax reform proposals are in limbo.

    These are all things the people who voted for Trump want, they expect him to deliver. These are also things all people who voted for Hillary oppose, they are fighting to keep them from being implemented. If the resistance to Trump makes him so ineffectual, the will of those who voted for him is frustrated and this will become a problem.

    Conservatives appreciate the idea that in a democracy the government should reflect the will and aspirations of the voters, rather than that of those who shout loudest. This is a core belief that countenances no exception and is at the root of the system of government of the US. When it becomes evident to these people that their will is being frustrated by a concerted effort to resist they may confront -and there is no "middle ground", either the will of the people is reflected in the government they elected or it isn't.
     
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    There are plenty of GOPers and CEO who are just finger wetters and bend-with-the-wind types

    They were afraid of a lie that could do them personal harm
     
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    I don;t get your implied sneer in that remark

    I suspect the ignorant liberal snowflakes attacking Confederate monuments are largely athiests so my reference to God was not meant to be taken literally

    If God is a four-letter word for you sorry 'bout that
     
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    Wow, are the Democrats to divert from the Russian investigation or what?! Guess its not working out to well for them.

    Time to get race riots and people hurt again like in every election season, starting where they have an entrenched Virginia governor up for re-election.
     
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    No, but the Democratic Party will, as always, create a great number of race-based riots like always.
     
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    Exactly

    They tried what for them is the high road with the russia lie and it was losing energy

    Now they are reververting to the tried and true race card
     
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    I never agreed with us pulling down that statue.
     
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    People who are newly liberated from liberal/progressive oppression will understandably strike out at symbols of their oppressor

    So I don't blame victims of socialism for what they did

    Their hate is real and justified

    But ignorant snowflakes attacking Confederate monuments 150 years after the Civil War ended?

    Stupidity, nothing but stupidity
     
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    Imagine for a moment an alternate outcome.

    Suppose Hillary had won with just 46% of the vote because she is more politically savvy and managed to get the requisite electoral college votes. Suppose Trump (who did say he would accept the outcome, in just certain conditions) instead impugned the results claiming (as the evidence does show, that Hillary had colluded through contacts with that Russian ambassador and other possibly intelligence-related figures. Imagine a few Republican Senators or Congressmen demanded recounts and investigations. Picture all those “deplorables” (3 million more than had voted for her) had staged massive protests on election day, hurling invective (and whatever they had at hand) at whatever lefties they could find. That the following day they returned, waving placards and banners, instead of silly hats. Picture Hillary accepting the resignation of her Attorney General pick (Loretta Lynch) as leaks revealed (as we now know) the impropriety of her interference with the investigation of Hillary’s emails. Within Hillary’s first few weeks leaks (from the Russians) would be revealing all this stuff we know from her hacked emails, Podesta’s and the DNC server. More legislators would be demanding investigations as “pay to play”, sidelining Bernie, the debate questions and other nefarious acts in her campaign were disclosed and others in her Cabinet had to resign. Suppose Democrat legislators began to worry about their chances given the “opposition” (rather than “resist”) movement by all those deplorables, they realized the holes in Obamacare and its ‘death spiral’ so they refused to endorse Hillary’s plans for single-payer. Imagine the JCS refused to obey her order to enlist transgenders and the legislature wouldn’t agree to fund the grossly expanded welfare budget to cover millions of DACA applicants she had made citizens by Executive Order. Suppose the economy remained sluggish as Hillary continued and expanded on Obama’s legacy banning the pipelines, fracking and oil exports and allocating billions to folks like those who brought us Solyndra. Now imagine that she was responsive to BLM and ordered the demolition of Confederate monuments and renamed military bases after iconic homosexuals.

    Would all those rabble-rousing deplorables patiently stand by?
     
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    Please source how 1 of them CEO's who left is such a person.
     
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    I suspect more you're just trolling.

    And now never minding calling the US army a bunch of thugs.
    That's how patriotic you lot are.
     
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    Your right wing government agreed with taking down statues.
     
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    You make your assumptions and I will make mine

    We know them by their actions and they bailed out on a chance to help American business grow
     
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    I did not call the US Army thugs
     
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    The left is better at playing the boycott game than conservatives are so they do a better job of bullying corporations
     
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    What I said is according to this:
    CEO Wendell Weeks also stepped down, saying in a statement, "the events of the last few days have transformed the council's laudable mission of job creation into a perception of political support for the Administration and its statements. This runs counter to my original intention and is inconsistent with Corning's Values."

    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/16/heres-whos-in-and-out-of-trumps-economic-advisory-councils.html

    You're just making it up to fit your agenda.
     
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    You wrote "The people removing the monuments are thugs" And so I posted a picture of the US army removing statues.
     
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    Talk is cheap

    The advisory council is there to improve the economy but the CEO are toying with it for political reasons it was not designed for

    They are playing politics with the economy
     

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