Is Atheism a logical belief?

Yet for example, hypocritical atheists don't say they don't know whether racism is the most paramount reason why blacks can't make it in America even though there is absolutely no evidence racism against blacks causes the most strife for blacks.

Side note: Just ask the moron Fauci if he thinks racism in America is the most important reason why a disproportionate number of Covid cases occur among blacks in America (Fauci does believe this).

 

Dude, a supernatural being is a god, for example.

Oh well, maybe you believe in Titans, for example...or are Titans an example of the dreaded atheist G-word?

 

already did, its unfalsifiable.

Prove that 'supernatural' exists, or concede atheism is a faith based religion.

 

Uh, yeah let's change the subject because you are unable to respond to my post.

You seem to be confused about what atheism is. There have been definitions on this very thread. What it is not about is an opinion on racism. There are plenty of right-wing atheists who believe systemic racism is a myth. You would feel right at home with them, outside of the god thing.

Side note: I think Fauci has said a lot of the African American's vax hesitancy comes from mistrust because of historical wrongs.

Side side note: What are the top 10 reasons Blacks can't make it in America?

 

I didn't mention any supernatural being.

Belief in the supernatural doesn't necessarily include belief in supernatural beings - for instance belief in reincarnation or mind-body dualism.

 

No, you didn't.

Read my post again. And again. And again. Hopefully you'll manage to understand it eventually.

 

Thanks, for proving you dont know what it takes to prove it. lol

Dodge! lol
Its ok if you believe in the supernatural, I could care less, but then you are no longer in the atheist playground. Clearly you dont understand the delineation involved, quite typical. Tacit admission that atheism is a religion.

 

Unlikely.

 

Wow, getting rusty, it took you a long time to find your cheer leader tutu this time!
Now if you could only come up with an on point rebuttal! LOL

 

No, there absolutely are ways in which the "big bang" can be falsified.

Of course, you have to remember that the "big bang" is the name for the expansion that occured, starting within the first second. It is NOT a claim of knowing the cause of the initial singularity. There is no scientific theory concerning the origination of that singularity for the reasons you stated.

There is no question that science is absolutely and purely secular.

Religions can say absolutely anything. I've NEVER suggested they can't. The question isn't what religion can say, but what science is.

Your last sentence confirms what I said.

 

Before you start making statements about creation events, what is your evidence that this was a creation event?

>>Do you have evidence that there was no energy before this universe formed?

I'm not so sure you even have a reasonable definition of "creation".

In fact, the common Christian direction is a serious failure in logic, as it depends on a special pleading - that nothing existed, BUT the god we happen to believe in existed and had more energy than all the energy of this universe!

 

There is no question that is what science is 'supposed' to be!

Then why dont I see any citations from you?

 

You wouldn't understand a proper delineation if it dangled from the tip of your nose. Especially if it requires to understand more than two words in a row.

Now that I returned the compliment, can we please concentrate on the more interesting matter of how is falsifiability defined? Or will you dodge it again?

Here, I played your game. Now be a good sport and play mine. Define falsifiability.

 

Citation? Seriously?

If you have bothered to look up the definition of falsifiability, you'd have spared yourself the embarrassment. Until you do, even an infinite number of citations won't help, because you wouldn't understand any of it.

 

I don't know how many atheists are in the world now, I guess many more than those who make themselves visible. There must be hundreds of millions of non-believers (all flavors, including agnostics), yet some people are not only convinced they know what and how all those hundreds of millions are thinking, but they're certain that all those hundreds of millions think exactly the same way. This is more than a simple logical fallacy.

The human brain is wired so that it seeks and create patterns, so that we can react swiftly to known situations and understand new situations based on existing patterns. The problem is that the brain has the tendency to perceive patterns even where there are none. Maybe that's the source of the penchant for hasty generalizations so common even among otherwise intelligent people.

Sorry if I come across as patronizing. Sometimes I really can't tell, it's just that I have something to say and I need to say it.

 

What exactly are you driving at with your claim that Big Bang theory is not falsifiable?
Big Bang is a theoretical model based on observable phenomenon. The observations made are certainly falsifiable. You can look for and find cosmic background radiation for example. You can measure the rate at which stars and galaxies are moving because you can identify their red shift. There is a great deal of empirical data that favours the theory over other theories.

 

As usual I cant imagine how your imagination has constructed that nonsense, I do know I am waiting for proof the big bang is in fact falsifiable, in other words to those who understand its meaning, there is no ****ing way to test the hypothesis! You believers believe it on faith alone!

But I am sure you and wil can come up with something to test it, hence prove it, right?

 

All of which cannot be tested much less proven as the bonafide cause of this alleged 'big bang'! Believing things on 'faith' is the foundation of all religions. So help these 2 out lets see how you tested all this?

 

very true, they imagine things that are not there then when asked to explain, they are speechless! Top shelf debaters!

We finally found something we agree on.

 

My point is: There are plenty of hypocritical atheists who deny the existence of god(s) 'cause there's no evidence of god(s) but there are also plenty of atheists who'll acclaim that racism is the most heinous reason why blacks can't make in America even though there is absolutely no evidence supporting such a claim.

 

No changing of the subject...Just pointing out the hypocrisy of atheists who claim they only believe in something they have evidence of...

My point is: There are plenty of hypocritical atheists who deny the existence of god(s) 'cause there's no evidence of god(s) but there are also plenty of atheists who'll acclaim, for instance, that racism is the most heinous reason why blacks can't make in America even though there is absolutely no evidence supporting the claim that racism is the most heinous reason why blacks can't make it in America.

Off the top of my head, the top five reasons why blacks can't make it in America are:
(1) Current black leaders and influencers (the dem party, for example) are socialist...I'd don't mind some are socialist but I do mind that all are socialist.
(2) Independent thought isn't allowed in the black community.
(3) The black community doesn't eat right and doesn't enough exercise...I'll post more about this later.
(4) Blacks as a whole expect reparations and won't work for successes.
(5) The black community doesn't encourage education.

BTW, Fauci in his commencement speech to the black college said there is a over-prevalence of Covid cases among blacks in America because of racism in America when that statement isn't even scientific...It's political (which Fauci is: a politician)...I'll remind Fauci the epidemiological reason why there's an over-prevalence of Covid cases among blacks in America is because blacks have co-morbidities because blacks don't eat right and they don't get enough exercise.
https://dailycaller.com/2021/05/17/anthony-fauci-emory-university-commencement-covid-19-racism/

 

Belief in the supernatural does necessarily include believe in supernatural beings...Isn't the 'plumed serpent' (one's spirit which supposedly roams outside the body while asleep) a supernatural being, for example?

 

How was the universe created? Better yet on a side note, why don't you explain why racism is the most heinous thing that blacks encounter in America?

 

You don't quite understand falsifiability. Why am I not surprised?

Scientific theories make predictions. If the predictions (not the hypothesis) can be tested by humans, the theory is falsifiable . That doesn't automatically mean the theory is correct. Science works with probabilities, not certainties. We don't have complete knowledge.

The big bang theory makes predictions that can be tested - the existence of cosmic microwave background, for instance. That means it's falsifiable.

Here's your citation for one such test using the Lyman-alpha forest test:

https://academic.oup.com/mnras/article/489/3/3966/5558241

Predictions made by the big bang theory are testable, hence the big bang theory is falsifiable.

 

Non-belief is not a belief.