Is Black Crime In America An Epidemic?

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Is Black Crime In America An Epidemic?

  1. Yes, something constructive needs to be done about black crime

    72.2%
  2. No, black crime is no more out of control than any other race's crime

    11.1%
  3. I don't know/I don't pay attention

    2.8%
  4. Focussing on black crime is racist and evil

    13.9%
  1. wopper stopper

    wopper stopper New Member

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    victim card is also self serving.

    trying to get something for nothing is the goal.
     
  2. E_Pluribus_Venom

    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

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    If they've retained their ability to read and understand numbers, I'm sure they will.
     
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    good, then you won't mind being a victim b/c your stats will brng you back from the grave
     
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    Why in liberal minds is 1% going hungry in America a problem. It would be a problem if .01% went hungry? Because evil white men are eating every night?

    But .01% crime of an entire race, far exceeding any other race in per capita crimes is "no big deal"? Have you not found a evil white person to blame yet?
     
  5. Zook

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    This thread is about black crime. Not just murder. Do your percentages again on the amount of blacks arrested for crime (not just murder). It'd be really interesting to see.

    Far more than just 0.1% of blacks are involved in crime. Especially violent crime.
     
  6. E_Pluribus_Venom

    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

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    The link in your OP references violent crime, does it not? I realize that you're now attempting to widen the scope given the argument you've failed to counter, but I'm actually on your topic.

    These are the latest FBI arrest results from 2009:
    > 0.01% of the black population was arrested for murder.
    > 0.01% of the black population was arrested for rape.
    > 0.2% of the black population was arrested for aggravated assault.
    > 0.1% of the black population was arrested for armed robbery.​

    You're welcome to explain how annual percentages that don't even equal 1% are indication of a problem in the black community.

    Go.
     
  7. Zook

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    Where's the numbers for the rapes, aggravated assaults, armed robberies apart from your percentages?

    And what about all the violent crime that doesn't get reported, or where the perps haven't been caught yet.

    I have lived in majority black cities and neighborhoods my entire life... on both sides of the Atlantic and I am telling you from vast experience black crime is an epidemic. There are "no-go zones" for White people in their own country in England. That tells me it's reached epidemic levels.
     
  8. Yoruichi878

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    To me, it doesn't matter if the percentage is 0.01% or 10% of black population is arrested and/or charged for a crime. The point is that relative to the rest of the races/ethnicities in the US, they commit the most crime BY FAR PER CAPITA.

    You point out that 0.01% of black population was arrested for murder.
    How about 0.002% of white population was arrested for murder?
    How about the asian population that were arrested for so few murders that its practically incalculable?


    The plain truth is that 4,800 blacks were arrested for murder from a population of 41,000,000, while 4,750 whites were arrested for murder from a population of 220,000,000. Less blacks in the country commit more murder than 5 TIMES MORE WHITES! Bring up your 0.01% all you want, but the bottom line is that 0.01% of blacks arrested for murder is still MUCH HIGHER THAN EVERYONE ELSE.

    Look at asians. If they were committing murder at the same level that blacks do, then they should have at least 1,600 arrests for murder. Asians are one third of black population in US, yet somehow they manage to be arrested for only 97 murders??!?! Go down the whole list of crimes and asians commit far fewer than blacks relative to their population. Seriously its pretty amazing to see how blacks commit more than their share of crime relative to their size of population, while asians commit very few crimes relative to their population size.

    So again I ask you, please explain why one group of 14 million minorities are capable of committing so few crimes, while 41 million minorities commit crime wayyyy out of proportion to their population size? I'd really like to see you answer this one.

    Also as a sidenote there was YET ANOTHER all black flash mob, this time robbing a 7-11 in Maryland on Saturday. So thus far EVERY flash mob/rob has been black youths and I'm still waiting for all those asian/white flash mobs to appear. So tell me again how blacks don't commit more crime than everyone else? :rolleyes:
     
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    In the same link I gave you earlier, which shows the number of arrests for that year as related to each offense.
    And what about all the violent crime that doesn't get reported, or where the perps haven't been caught yet.

    Yes... the fall back. When given actual statistics that show arrest total and percentages that disagree with your preconceived notions, the most "logical" act is to backpedal to "personal experience" as if it's valid input for debate's sake. Your suggestions have no proof... so excuse me if I chuckle at the thought of taking your word for it.
     
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    Which is a chosen statistic to use, when obviously irrelevant. Why? Because the topic of this OP addresses violent black crime and whether it's a problem for the black community. Other races are irrelevant to the discussion, and this is what people who yearn for bad black statistics do... revert to per capita numbers without referencing the actual amount of crime suspects (relying on percentages absent explanation). Read the OP: We're to assess violent black crime and it's relation to black law-abiding citizens... and (as I've proven) the number of annual violent suspects is overwhelming lower... insanely so... than blacks who subscribe to a peaceful American living experience.
     
  11. Yoruichi878

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    The problem with your argument is that the REAL crime statistics of blacks in America is diluted because you include EVERYONE. Black babies, little kids and seniors aren't going to commit much crime don't you agree? Yet they're included in calculating how non-violent blacks are?

    How about calculating crime based on the age groups that are mostly likely to commit crime? IE say between the ages of 15-35? Do that for both black men and women and then see if that doesn't show a different picture? Tell me then that the number of crimes committed, the number of arrests and the number of blacks in prison isn't a significant problem?

    And I GUARANTEE if you did that for all races/ethnicities, blacks would be much, MUCH higher than anyone else.
     
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    Crime is crime, are you going to be that much more upset if the person beating you with a pipe is a black guy?
     
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    So are crime per capita statistics, Yoruichi. Where do you think "they account for X amount of crime, yet blacks make up 13% of the population" comes from? That 13% is the 41.8 Million blacks in this country.

    The chart I provided also offers arrest rates for racial backgrounds within certain age brackets. Scroll down some to find it.
     
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    Some would. Hell, some have invented black offenders. This woman comes to mind:

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    Wow, what a screwed up person.
     
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    If violent black crime wasn't a problem in the community then blacks wouldn't be marching to end black-on-black violence in every single community where there are blacks. Police wouldn't set up special little units to counter all the black gun crime like they have in London (Operation Trident).

    Every single person that lives in a community that has more than a 5% black population has been a victim of black crime at some point.

    There's a site that documents black crime called New Nation News Forum. I wouldn't suggest going there because it's extreme and they use naughty words on there that make most anti-racist liberals cry and upset, but if you can get over the nasty words you'll see that they post around 30 black murders per day from the local news sites around America.

    You need to wake up and see the bigger picture. I don't believe those statistics. It is feasible that we're being lied to by way of propaganda. The FBI already includes Hispanics in with Whites to distort the figures on their site and that is a fact. I'm telling you from experience that those statistics are very difficult to take seriously.
     
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    What a ridiculous thread.

    'Black' crime is high in America because blacks are disproportionately poor.

    Once poverty is over, crime will be as well.

    DUH....
     
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    Yes, now wake up and come back to reality. You're forgetting, I've spent my entire life in majority black neighborhoods and I know full well what they're mentality is like. They enjoy beating, maiming and hurting people. They laugh and try to humiliate their victims. I've seen this over and over again.

    Evidence is all around that poverty has little to do with black crime. You don't need to rape to survive, but black rape rates are through the roof. The NBA and NFL is almost solely comprised of black criminals. I suppose they're breaking the law to survive too?

    Your ignorance is astounding. Wake up and join us in the real world.
     
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    Do you even read the profound exaggerations you type? At some point, you'd have to realize no one will take you seriously when you speak this way. Every community? Every single person? You have yet to counter the arrest rates I provided, and are relying on personal anecdotes and wild assertions to support your argument. You called yourself a racist at some point in this thread, yes?

    Where's the superiority? I'm not seeing anything in your positions that would support the notion.
     
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    Where did I say every single person?

    Yes I am a racist. A proud one. Any sane person would be racist living in a black majority neighborhood. It's completely natural. I've lived in many black majority neighborhoods and it's remarkable how similar they are.

    It is feasible that those statistics have been manipulated to make blacks look less violent and criminal than they are. Corruption is rife in the Establishment. That's what I personally believe due to my personal experience living over 30 years in black majority cities and neighborhoods.

    You obviously disagree. End of story. But experience is far greater than an organization's statistics that have already proven they can lie and manipulate by adding Hispanics in with Whites to distort the figures. :cool:
     
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    Forgetting? Are you nuts? I have never spoken to you before - how the heck would I know you were from a black neighborhood (so you say)...not that it changes anything accept explain to some extent why you have such apparent hatred and prejudice for African Americans.
    What a pathetically ignorant thing to say.

    Okay pal, where is your unbiased, factual evidence that 'blacks' - no matter what their economic background - enjoy beating maiming and hurting people?

    Here is a hint...you have NONE.


    So, if I go to slums all over the world, if they are not 'black' then they will be polite and kind and treat me with great respect if I am walking down their streets at night?

    :rolleyes:


    And for the record - I am a WASP.
     
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    You're in MY thread. You should know I've spent my entire life living in black neighborhoods by actually READING. Otherwise you replied without reading the thread which makes you stupid and simple.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHyug2PvpB8"]Police Let Flash Mob Rob 7-11 - YouTube[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG5h3-CM3V4"]Flash Mob Attacks Dunkin Donuts - YouTube[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLkkjN44YOU"]Yet Another Flash Mob Robbery - YouTube[/ame]

    Proof enough?

    Get yourself a racial education.
     
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    :below:

    That's embarassing.


    and a forgetful one.

    White statistics never came up in my explanations... nice try. For the last time, explain how 0.01% is indication of a community problem.
     
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    Crime of the century... Oh noes!! :(

    I thought you were referring to another part of my post. <<<Mod Edit: Personal Attack Removed>>>


    I don't care whether White statistics came up in YOUR explanation. They're coming up in MINE. The FBI has already been proven to distort figures by including Hispanics in with Whites. Therefore I don't take their statistics seriously and rather rely on my own personal experiences. Anyone that has spent a significant amount of time in a majority black city or neighborhood knows exactly how bad black crime is.
     

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