Is Black Crime In America An Epidemic?

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by Zook, Jul 2, 2011.

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Is Black Crime In America An Epidemic?

  1. Yes, something constructive needs to be done about black crime

    72.2%
  2. No, black crime is no more out of control than any other race's crime

    11.1%
  3. I don't know/I don't pay attention

    2.8%
  4. Focussing on black crime is racist and evil

    13.9%
  1. DA60

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    No hypocrisy in the posts you quoted.

    Read my post...I said 'if they agree with me'.

    You said 'they know', not 'if'.

    Big difference.


    And it still changes nothing...you do not know most American whites that live around blacks.

    So you have NO idea what they are thinking?

    True or false?
     
  2. Zook

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    Oh... I assumed that was a typo...

    If???

    That makes no sense in the context of your sentence. What are you talking about man??

    Read over it again. Surely you meant to say vast majority OF other 'White' people...??

    I swear, I lose IQ points everytime I converse with you.

    Anyway, I know many White people who have grown up in majority black neighborhoods and they consistently turn out one of three ways. Either they end up becoming racists, becoming criminals or becoming wiggers who degrade themselves and try to emulate black culture.

    As I said, the vast majority of White people who have grown up in black majority neighborhoods know exactly what I'm talking about. I know this from my experiences in life and the thousands of members of White racial websites who have grown up similarly to myself who end up being racist and despising blacks.

    Any sane person would dislike blacks if they spent enough time around them. Those that don't are usually pro-crime reprobates or have something else wrong with them.
     
  3. Zook

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    I seriously doubt this.

    I'm not calling you a liar. Maybe you're just confused. I'm talking about black majority neighborhoods. Not growing up around one or two or even ten black "people."

    There's a massive difference in what I mean here. Black majority neighborhoods are absolute hellholes due to the fact they get to govern themselves and decorate the neighborhood exactly the way they want. Their culture is dominant and you see this by them acting in a very raw way. Such as they would in Africa.

    If you've grown up around a few blacks in a majority White neighborhood then you tend to notice a slightly more civil and intelligent black. Why? Because he's been domesticated by the civilized White human beings whose culture dominates their surroundings. They learn how to behave and mimic human behavior.

    It's completely different to grow up the way I did and the way you did. I saw things in "da hoods" I grew up in that would turn your hair pink.
     
  4. DA60

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    Of course I meant 'if'.

    'Of' would make no sense at all.

    Read it again.

    You did it again:

    Do you or do you not know the 'vast majority' of white people in the United States (I assume you are only talking about America) who have grown up in black majority neighborhoods?

    Yes or no?

    If the answer is no (and of course it is), then you cannot possibly know what they think.


    Again, you are speaking for people you do not even know.

    Do you know every single sane person that has grown up around 'blacks'?

    Unless you do, then you cannot possibly know what they think.


    This is common sense...it all comes down to one thing...

    you are speaking for people that you have never even met.

    Are you not getting this?
     
  5. Zook

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    This is the original sentence you typed out...

    I just read this poor excuse for a sentence out to someone else within my household and she concurs... it makes no (*)(*)(*)(*) sense... at all.

    You clearly meant to say "OF" and now you're backtracking because I've exposed you as a hypocrite.

    There. Now that makes sense. That's what you meant to say.
     
  6. DA60

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    Like I care what other racists think... :rolleyes:

    But that does make more sense.

    Maybe that is what I meant.

    My apologies.

    And you are right, that I cannot factually prove that the vast majority of people agree with me...except the following..

    http://www.google.com/search?source....,cf.osb&fp=f2d1beb1c4e15df7&biw=1024&bih=653

    And the following:

    Investigating the Low IQ of Racists


    'Studies going back over 50 years have repeatedly arrived at the same conclusion -- racists have lower IQs than non-racists. The average intelligence quotient (IQ) of all members of the human race is 100 on the Stanford-Binet scale. The average IQ of racists is up to 4 IQ points less than this (Montagu 1952 & 1988, Allport 1946, Frenkel-Brunswick and Sanford 1945). The reasons this is true are not entirely clear. Does racism attract the unintelligent or do the unintelligent default into racist mentalities? An exploration of this phenomenon can be most informative.'

    http://www.123helpme.com/view.asp?id=10944



    Now let's see your proof to back up your claims.

    Or your retraction of those claims.
     
  7. DA60

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    And btw...where is your unbiased factual proof that most blacks are racist?
     
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    And you still have not answered the above question:
     
  9. DA60

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    And by the way...this is what hypocrisy means:

    Definition of HYPOCRISY

    1: a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not; especially : the false assumption of an appearance of virtue or religion

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocrisy


    I NEVER claimed to never post statements like you did. I would have to have done so to be accurately called a 'hypocrite'.

    I said 'No hypocrisy in the posts you quoted.'

    So your hypocrisy charge is wrong.


    Now are you going to prove all your statements from above?

    Or are you going to run away like you did when I asked you some of them before?

    I am guessing the latter.


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    Hug a black man today.
     
  10. DA60

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    You typed the following in another thread:

    'Your mistake is thinking black "people" are human like the rest of the population. They're not, they are Homo Erectus. It's like excusing a bunch of wild gorillas running amok.'

    http://www.politicalforum.com/4482679-post13.html


    Where is your link to unbiased factual proof?
     
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    And the problem with that is?????

    If they themselves CHOOSE such a lifestyle the bugger it lets round em all up into one place give em all guns with one bullet each and let em go for it. The P/C crowd would have us believe black crime is because of white prejudice, when in fact it is more to do with the choices these fools make.
     
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    From The Economist:
    "African-American homicide rose from three times the white rate in New York in the 1850's to almost 13 times that figure a century later."
     
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    Weston spent time in prison during the 1980s...
    :fart:
    Philadelphia police find children linked to 'dungeon'
    20 October 2011 - Police have taken into protective custody eight children and four young adults believed to be linked to three charged over a Philadelphia 'dungeon'.
     
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    The black crime rate and illegitimacy concides very well with the expansion of welfare state. Prior to the 60s, families and communities formed the main blocs of support for blacks because basically the state was against them.
     
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    You are conflating race with socio-economic background. Race in U.S is correlated with income and wealth. And therefore the lower class phenomenon is particularly acute in minority groups. Of course there are also cultural issues. But there is no such thing as a "white culture" that entails proper middleclass unbrings and a "black cultrue" that sums up anti-social behaviour. All you need is a trip to London to see that this difference can be protrayed within the same ethnic group-white caucasians, between different socio-economic classes.
     
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    Really? I'm in London right now. Your argument's not going to work.

    Your post looks as though it's been scripted out of some loony leftist manifesto. I've grown up in black majority cities and neighborhoods my entire life, so your socio-economic background garbage isn't going to wash with me. I know what they're really like. Shame you don't.
     
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    Do you?

    And exactly how many 'blacks' do you 'know'?

    Not bumped into them on the street or saw them on the news...know them personally?
     
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    When I was young (upto around 16 or 17) I was as anti-racist as anyone on this forum. All my friends were black and I'd defend them to the hilt, just like all the inexperienced morons on this forum. It didn't really register with me that the daily crime, violence, animalistic behavior and destruction they committed on a daily basis was a bad thing. Then as I matured, I started to realize there's something not quite right about black "people." They don't just commit needless crimes, they actually get off on it and find a sense of pride in it. I've seen things in the ghettos I grew up in that'd turn your hair pink.

    Of course, not all 100% are like it. But an unacceptably high number of them are.

    To answer your question, I've known hundreds, possibly thousands personally. I'm 30 and all my years have been spent living in black majority hellholes. I've known more black "people" in my life than I've known all other races combined, including my own. I'm more than qualified to speak.

    If I'm a big, bad, evil racist, why is it only blacks I hate? I think South East Asians are lovely people. Haven't got a bad word to say about them. I'm okay with anyone that contributes positively to civilized society. I can't help it if blacks aren't fit for civilized society. I don't WANT to hate them. Knowledge and experience would make anyone hate them. It's like trying not to hate cancer or AIDS.


    EDIT: I also find it bizarre you'd ask me that question in the context that you did... as if I'm supposed to be some ignorant hick that's never met a black "person" in his life. If you research it enough, you'll find that the majority of hardened racists live or have lived in direct contact with the race they hate. It'd be more plausible if I were to ask YOU how many black "people" have you met. Because I seriously doubt it's as many as me.
     
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    I don't want a novel...just a number.

    Now can you get it together enough to give me an estimate or not?

    10?

    100?

    1000?

    10,000?

    How many?
     
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    Don't be (*)(*)(*)(*)ing rude. I answered your question.

    To answer your question, I've known hundreds, possibly thousands personally.
     
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    So you know as many as 2,000 'blacks'.

    There are - according to Wikipedia - about 39,000,000 African Americans in America alone.

    So, that means you (apparently) know 1 African American out of every 19,500.

    And on that pathetically small number - you claim to 'know what they're really like'.

    Not only is your statement INCREDIBLY unscientific and pathetically short on empirical data...it's just flat out ridiculous.

    That's like walking into a hockey rink with 19,500 fans in it, befriending one of them and then claiming you 'know what they are ALL really like'.
     
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    I didn't say I knew them all... and I didn't say 2,000 either, I said possibly thousands. I've lived in Jacksonville, FL, Houston, TX, London, UK and I've spent a bit of time in Michigan. Isn't it funny that they're always the same where ever I go? Isn't it funny that news reports and prison statistics back-up what I've experienced in my life?

    Not only is your argument INCREDIBLY unscientific and pathetically petty... it's just flat out ridiculous.

    For the record, I'd be willing to bet I've known more blacks, had more black friends in the past and lived in more majority black neighborhoods than anyone on this entire forum. That right there is what's truly ridiculous about your argument.
     
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    Actually it's not like that at all.

    Taking one specimen you have nothing to compare it to. I have thousands of blacks to compare one black to. You can't fluke something when you're seeing "thousands" acting up. It could be a fluke if 1 fan among 19,500 fans is a certain way.

    This is why liberal generalization arguments never work. You think we take one or two blacks and say they're all like it. You can't go wrong when you compare the thousands you know in reality to the millions you see in prisons or in the news getting busted for violent and depraved crimes.

    Your argument is weak and childlike. Come back when you have a better understanding of reality.
     
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    So the guy knows 1 out of roughly every 20,000 'blacks' in america.

    And he says he 'know what they are ALL really like'.

    Suuuuure he does.


    But it's not his fault...

    Investigating the Low IQ of Racists


    'Studies going back over 50 years have repeatedly arrived at the same conclusion -- racists have lower IQs than non-racists. The average intelligence quotient (IQ) of all members of the human race is 100 on the Stanford-Binet scale. The average IQ of racists is up to 4 IQ points less than this (Montagu 1952 & 1988, Allport 1946, Frenkel-Brunswick and Sanford 1945). The reasons this is true are not entirely clear. Does racism attract the unintelligent or do the unintelligent default into racist mentalities? An exploration of this phenomenon can be most informative.'

    http://www.123helpme.com/view.asp?id=10944
     

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