Is Israel-Iran clash imminent?

https://www.juancole.com/2018/04/russia-macron-renegotiate.html

Good for them.

 

The latest in the war of words:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-iran-attacks-tel-aviv-minister-idUSKBN1HX15P
Israel will hit Tehran if Iran attacks Tel Aviv: minister

 

Nope... I honestly couldn't care less about what touches trolls. Im country. Strong in ma belief.

I take this as a joke.

No I did not.

I'll take a look. Promise. But jiji I have to say, your secular dreams are possible "despite" Iran's jihadi terror groups operating in Syria... You shouldve figured that one out before faking pro-Arab here...

 

whoever does not agree with you is a troll.

Your a nationalist.

so strong like a child you have tantrums if it is seen not to be correct.

your last comments suggest not.

I know.

I have seen you have these useless talks with others. Not interested so that's my replies over.

 

Yes, they just seem to be always trying to up the ante certainly publicly. It looks like they are just dealing with Russia like they deal Hamas. Israel has never had the need to learn diplomatic skills or they are hoping that after 12th May they will have the US back beside them or make it so big that the US would feel the need to come in. Iran are upping the ante too.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...tion&utm_medium=web_push&utm_campaign=General

 

Let's make a change right now! if you like my post I will like yours

 

I think you would need to be liking his first to be changing!

Are Israeli's not getting worried?

 

OK why not
My wife is a bit worried but ppl at work are not even talking about it, we are used to threats and OP's from time to time.

 

Your wife sounds sensible.

 

That's really funny. Lol.

vis doesn't agree with me on tons of things I don't think he's a troll. At least not a good one : )

I don't think you'd ever understand what my tactics required me to do. All I can say is follow my 2015 posts. Those are hints that gives you some idea about who I really am.

What are those? But before you answer that let me clarify a point here:
Turkey is "constitutional democracy" and is a "secular country". If Turkey ever had a serious sectarian approach in the ME that would have been to counterbalance Iran's regional strategy of keeping a heavy influence as a pressure mechanism over foreign countries -neighboring or not- through use of extreme jihadi paramilitaries. And let me remind you, such an approach is very much American at the core. Turks don't really have strong capability to come up with and to follow independent agendas in foreign affairs because the foreign soils for those "potentially independent" agendas would have been to be exercised at are Black Sea, Middle East, Aegean, Caucuses, and Eastern Mediterranean... all of which are crucial tension areas full of hotspots. So Turks pretty much have only one strategy and that is called "the balance"... It is seriously hard for it to maintain that balance tho.

I can detail what the heck has been going on in the ME from Iranian stand point as well for pages. Just ask... : )

Nice thing that you know.

To be honest, I enjoy discussing stuff with you. Seriously.

 

So the US Government joins in though not on a military level

https://www.almasdarnews.com/articl...-aid-for-assad-controlled-syrian-territories/

I thought the US had decided anyway it was not going to pay for any of the rubble it had financed.

 

You should know by now the issues we agree on, but I like to mention a point I don't agree with you: that is regarding Russia's likely actions (as opposed to rhetoric) relating to the situation in Syria. Russia will have done well (and even surpassed my expectations from them) if their role is just to stick firm on adding more items on the fraud (fraud on Iran) called the JCPOA and, additionally, act in such manner to ensure the Israelis never really brandish their nuclear card. Anything else from the Russians is as likely (or more likely) to end up being negative than positive. In this regard, the idea that the Russians will do much of anything to counterbalance Israeli actions in Syria is not something I accept. Indeed, my fear is that when push comes to shove, the Russians will likely find Assad (and, through him, Iran/Hezbollah) an easier target to pressure than the Israelis.

As for the 'war of words' I referred to, I am tired of it. I want Iran to either totally capitulate on the issue of Israel before the country is wrecked from within through the combination of economic, political, diplomatic and propaganda wars waged against it. Or to go to war and fight for its principles. I would support either course but I can't support Iran continuing down a road whose end result is certainly as bad as any war and which leave little room for either inspiration or hope. If Iran continues in this corrupt, and ultimately self-defeating, road of trying to make deals with minor actors and shows none of the resoluteness required for these difficult days ahead, I definitely don't want any part of it.

 

In the meantime, more ratcheted up rhetoric in the "war of words" -- this time from Trump!

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/04/...y-will-pay-price-few-countries-have-ever-paid
Trump: If Iran Threatens America, They 'Will Pay a Price Like Few Countries Have Ever Paid'

 

Will your country be reduced to use diplomacy?

 

I am giving what you have said some thought Iranian Monitor.

This does look like what Russia may be doing and indeed I came upon this article in which Mattis while talking about the build up to a war in the area suggests the US may change it's position on JCPOA

https://www.thenational.ae/world/me...iran-military-confrontation-in-syria-1.725226

so it is possible that is possibly what they are offering to Iran to stay quiet though it is a very strange way of doing deals - almost like the deal was never made as the threat can always be there any time the US (or Israel) wants something else.

What do you mean by not letting Israel brandish their nukes? You think Israel would do this against Iran?

I can see how the JCPOA seems to be a sort of jail for Iran. Although as Mattis himself notes whether Iran adheres to it has all the t's crossed but whether it is adhered to and how much it is adhered to by the US depends on the US mood while at the same time it stops Iran from being able to protect herself from same.

Russia apparently said before that it would not interfere with an Israeli war against Iran just an attack against Iranians or Hezbollah inside Syria as that interfered with Russian Security.

Not even air defence? Throwing one's allies to the wolves is not something which would encourage future allies.

I was reading an article from when the JCPOA came into being which was suggesting Iran may turn its back on Assad - though in the end was suggesting that would be best for Iran but Iran does not give up on its allies.

Russia was forcing Assad to allow Israeli strikes before T4. Tell me what you mean about the pressure you think Russia may put on Assad and through him Iran/Hezbollah.

Though I would not want war, just a strong enough force facing Israel that she at last realised that she had to stop her aggression and bring some justice to the situation, this scenario which begins with as you said Iran capitulating on Israel would I think usher in Israel as the ruling state in the ME but this time with no limitations on her activity and not only that but that is an Extreme Right Israel with Saudi Arabia as the subordinate head ...and the implications of that as to how both the ME and the West will develop does not bare thinking about.

In that situation Iran would never be free.

I found this article this morning which in the main describes my views on the situation not least on what the west has degraded into.

http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/iran-will-retaliate-get-over-it-1208635739

 

OK this is the latest on Turkey Iran and Russia. The reports before suggested for Turkey to be involved, the Kurds would need to be sacrificed. Russia before I think felt well of them and wanted to support them so I am imagining this is possibly some kind of deal being made at the expense of the Kurds.

So Israel if you want to help the Kurds as you are always saying, stop your land grabs and start making peace with your neighbours.

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/turkey-iran-russia-need-work-un-syria-solution-turkish-fm-19418787

 

Oy Gevalt!

 

You know perfectly well what I am talking about. Those land grabs which you cannot get enough of as well as the sport of Palestinian killing.

 

I bet you also think the protesters right now in Gaza are peaceful while they throw rocks and firebombs over the fence.

 

Wrong as usual, alexa - I'm not Israeli and sadly, do not visit Israel as often as I'd like to

 

It's a new definition of peaceful

 

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There is a thread on that or possibly you and dutch want to start another mindless hate invested ignorant thread. I am going to ignore you both now.

 

Iran is itching to kick off WW3.

 

Another peaceful Palestinian protester got injured by snipers today...

 

The philosophy that land cannot be shared by Muslims and Jews at the same time, that both must be divided, is the zionist one.

Besides, what is the percentage of middle east should Ukrainians be allowed to practice apartheid on?