Is it a Conspiracy theory? Or is it a real threat?

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  1. monty1

    monty1 New Member

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    Sometimes conspiracy theories are fabricated in a clever way in which average fairly intelligent people can be fooled. Not using the 911 conspiracy theories as an example because those are so carelessly fabricated that no sane individuals are fooled for long. But take such nonsense as the apricot cure for Cancer and the fact that it will prey on those who are desperate. What does one do when dying of Cancer but to reach out to false hope presented by grifters and thieves who prey on the weak. And then look at the faith healers and how they can rook people in to believing in their crap by the thousands. Indeed, one such healer, after being exposed as a complete fake can give it a few years and come back and gather crouds in the thousands all over again.

    And so how do we innocent people protect ourselves and rise above it all. Just think of all the examples of phony conspiracy theories we have to sort out in our heads. And think of how cleverly they are conceived and presented to fool us.

    The answer is: Find a site that exists purely by promoting conspiracy theories of all makes and models. One very good example is Rense.com. If you can find it at Rense then you should immediately know that it's not worth wasting anymore time considering.
     
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    Validation Boy Well-Known Member

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    Yes. Be a good little brown-shirt.

    NEVER QUESTION ANYTHING THE GOVERNMENT TELLS YOU.

    EVER!!!
     
  3. Spiritus Libertatis

    Spiritus Libertatis New Member Past Donor

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    The problem is that there are so many fringe theories that the government can then dismiss the legit, plausible ones along with them and everyone goes along with it.

    For example, it is plausible to suggest Oswald killed Kennedy for the Mob. No proof, but plausible.
    The hostages being released on Reagan's inauguration is just a bit convenient, don't you think?
    Sirhan Sirhan had no motive, can't remember anything and is easily hypnotized. Coincidence?
    There was no WMD, but they secured those oil refineries right quick didn't they?

    If you just accept the government story for everything, you are yet another one of the gullible masses that allow tyrant to get away with anything.
     
  4. monty1

    monty1 New Member

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    Yes, we all know that the baggers, wankers, libertarians, and the rest of the kooks all think the government is one big evil conspiracy theory to take away your guns and stuff. But I'm not saying anything good or bad about your government. I'm just saying that going to Rense and finding your latest conspiracy theory should set your feeble minds to rest. It's a conspiracy theory! No worth agruing and not worth the powder to blow it to hell!
     
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    Spiritus Libertatis New Member Past Donor

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    If history shows that politicians continually abuse power, manipulate facts, outright lie, assassinate people, start false-flag operations, all to gain power for their government or themselves, you are naive to assume otherwise. If you do not keep tabs on it, your government will take advantage of you. Do you want someone like Hitler to be elected? Because that's what happens when you let your guard down.
     
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    And another telltale truth is exposing itself right in front of our eyes as we speak. It just so happens that so far the ones who are coming to this thread to scream out their protests are the ones who believe in conspiracy theories.

    Or in other words, if one of those tries to pass off a conspiracy theory as fact, it should be easy to recognize it for what it really is. They live and breathe their fantasies and related sh-t!
     
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    Spiritus Libertatis New Member Past Donor

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    Did I say any of the sample token plausible theories I provided were fact? There is no concrete evidence to support any of them. But that does not mean you should be complacent. If not for people like me, we would not have things like the Pentagon Papers, which exposed the Vietnam War as being waged under false, contrived pretenses for no good reason. People like you are the ones who thought LBJ was telling the truth, when we now know he wasn't.
     
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    It's Canadian's just like me that know that nearly all of the prowar crap that spews from the mouths of Americans is lies. If an American says it and it's related with a proposed war then it's crap. I was one of those who knew all along that the Tonkin incident, the phony Kuwait motivated reason for war the first time, and the WMD claims were all bogus. That's a hell of a lot different than your stupid conspiracy theories. Get over it and get on with your life before the religious wacko rightists have hijacked your side to the point of you never being able to claw your way back out of poverty and racist depravity.

    And btw, why are you trying to pose as a Canadian? What a disgrace to my country!
     
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    For Topical Use Only Well-Known Member

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    Biggest conspiracy fact perpetrated day in day out - I am not susceptible to lies like those others over there because I am informed.
     
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    Diuretic Well-Known Member

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    Generally speaking most people are very gullible. Perhaps we've lost the ability to think critically. But then perhaps it's just part of being human and we have to train ourselves to get over this gullibility.

    "A wise man...proportions his belief to the evidence" - David Hume.
     
  11. Spiritus Libertatis

    Spiritus Libertatis New Member Past Donor

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    I can see our government up here has done a good job brainwashing you into thinking that they're doing everything for your benefit. It's okay, most people here think that way, it's why our government is the way it is. We take after the British: we let the government do what they think is best for us within the bounds of a democratic system. I can also tell that from how you think the US government only lies regarding wars, but theories about anything else like assassinations, illegal experiments, crony capitalism or anything not involving war you brush it off as nonsense. People like you are why I can't drive in Canada without having to stop a those (*)(*)(*)(*)ing RIDE checkpoints where the cop is judge and jury, has no limit to his power, and I legally HAVE to stop even though RIDE actually violates the Charter - except the Supreme Court threw that right out in the case of RIDE because it was "justified".
     
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    There actually is evidence that points to Oswald not being the shooter at all. The entrance wound on Kennedy's head, for example, is on a point that could not have been fired from the despository.
     
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    Spiritus Libertatis New Member Past Donor

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    They've reconstructed it numerous times - it is entirely plausible, indeed it is likely, for Oswald to be the shooter. As we have no evidence of anyone else being at the grassy knoll or anything there is no reason to think otherwise.
     
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    The location of the car at the moment the bullet hit kennedy, according to the video, makes it impossible for the bullet that killed him to be been shot from the direction that oswald was in. This is where the "magic bullet" theory comes from, since the bullet entered his head from another direction.
     
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    No, it doesn't. I don't feel like finding the documentaries or other evidence that proves this right now but the reason the magic bullet theory exists is because people were not aware of the structure of the car he sat in.

    The common misconception is that the middle and back seats are on the same level and aligned straight with each other, but they're not. If they were, then no, he could not have been hit from the depository. But the middle seats are actually closer to the middle of the car and lower than the back seats, and when you consider that, the shot lines up perfectly.
     
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    Dagdag the theory propounded above has already been disproven so many time by so many different people that I don't understand why you even brought it up. Simply put you're wrong in fact the exact opposite is the case. A shooter from the grassy knoll using jacketed military style ammuniton would have wonded or killed jackie as well. A shooter fring from the sewer grate couldn't even have sen Kennedy at the moment the fatal shot was fired.

    In fact the only place that bullets could have been fired from that would have struck both Kennedy and Governor Connelly without striking anyone else in the Car is the Book Depository.
     
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    Garud and spiritus please, stop arguing and go to Rense.com and see if they have covered the Kennedy assassination. If they have you will know that Oswald did it and the rest is a conspiracy theory.
    Why, they cover building 7 so how could they miss the simple ones like pres shootings?
     
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    Because I already know the answer.
     
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    You are a bad man garud and I'm going to have Obams get you with one of his drones. The last sound you and your family will hear is the humm of the drone's engines. If you're a religious man garud I would advise you to contact your sky fairy asap.
     
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    You have no idea how bad....
     
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    Everyone should apply Occam's Razor to dicey theories like the JFK assassination and about 99% of the warnings posted on Facebook.
     
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    Oh yes I do garud. You've got yourself some assault rifles and some pistols and you know how to use em too. And when the government comes you are going to shoot em down before they make it to your door. And I know you're a good shot too cause you won't get any blood on my helper when he rapes your ....... well you know ............

    And that's exactly the reason why I've called in your name to Obama and his Russian helpers and told them to use a drone on you.
     
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    I find it funny when Liberals point to Conservatives and Libertarians as Conspiracy Theorists without recognizing those within their own groups. They tend to forget that many Liberals in the US today were hippies in the 60's. They were fighting against "the man". The biggest Liberal Conspiracy Theory today is the so called "Racist code words." You know like when someone calls the President lazy it's code for calling him black. It has nothing to do with the fact that he spends more time on the golf course then in the oval office. It has nothing to do with the fact that he went to bed while the US Consulate in Benghazi Libya was being attacked. It can only be racism.

    If you want to look at conspiracy theorists, be sure to include Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson and the Rev Wright.
     
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    Why, that's what black presidents do! Go to bed while some white cracker is getting offed in Benghazi and and spending all his time golfing.

    Oh, and you forgot that he spends a lot of time flying his drones over houses of bad Americans as practice for the big day!

    Oh gawd virginny, where a man's sister always makes the most dutiful and obliging wife!
     
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    It's exactly what it is Doug and the more lame ones don't hide it all that well. The really rabid frothing at the mouth ones make no pretension of hiding it. The ones like this one who hide it are taking themselves much too seriously.
     

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