Is it Envious or from Jealousy to ask the Rich to pay more taxes?

Boaf.
And when a man enters the political arena and appeals to boaf envy and jealouness "Vote for me and I will steal from he to give to thee", the Democrats automatically assume he has the right stuff.

http://weaselzippers.us/2013/05/11/...ca-this-is-what-the-taxpayers-are-paying-for/

And when half the electorate is so politically astute they can instantly give you an exact count of the number of pubic hairs on Kim Kardashian's labia, but when asked about four dead in Benghazi they scratch their head and say "Is that some movie I missed?" the man is home free.

 

Rachel Jeantel

 

Sacrifice has no merit; it is merely brown-nosing.

Hard work is a sick obsession of workaholic Greedheads; this creates bitter anti-social monsters obsessed with making everybody pay for not being like they are. Their success is dangerous to those who have to submit to such fanatics.

Risk means stupidity, as in "That was a pretty risky thing you did." More money is wasted on risky business gambles than on the most incompetent and unnecessary government projects.

Of course, you fail to mention trust funds and inheritance, because you are trying to hide that like every other apologist for the ruling class. If a plutocrat believes he has the right to buy the love of his children instead of telling them to do it on their own like he tells everyone else to, then he must have piled up his own wealth through luck or cheating. "I earned it, why can't you?" is only what he tells the suckers.

"Not all" is dishonest rhetoric. skeptic-f wasn't saying "all the rich," so you are making up an imaginary dialogue where it is easy for you to dominate. His statement is like the undeniable truth, "Women are shorter than men," which doesn't imply that all women are shorter than all men.

Someone who slavishly submits to this unnecessary and irrelevant sacrifice required by the ruling-class sadists has an unhealthy personality and steals jobs from normal people with more talent. Bootlickers like you never say, "My childhood friend has invented a new surgical technique that has saved on medical expenses or makes paraplegics walk, etc." So who cares about him? We don't owe him anything, least of all lower taxes! So we've got a generic surgeon, so what? You've given no information that would make me respect him. Achievements don't count for apologists, only whining bitter pity parties.

Americans should not compare themselves downward, and feel content because they aren't Somalians. Real Americans should compare themselves upward. For example, paying the lowest price for gasoline that any other country does. Wherever some country has something better, we should have that here.

Don't be afraid for your Masters just because skeptic-f is undeniably correct and every honest person knows it. The ruling class gave us the Internet so they could pacify us with the illusion that we are changing things by puffing pixels.

We won't live free until the 1% lives in fear.

 

Or, as in the TV series "V," if only we could unzip them and see the lizards inside.

 

these are the words of an ignorant coward and a lazy fool. every great advance has come at a cost, though we often pay a steep price and receive little from it. i don't find it surprising that someone who feels entitled to the fruits of the labor of others is so incapable of seeing the merit of working to attain those fruits for himself.

this is the funniest part because the 1% has nothing to fear from such buffoons. lacking any will, unable to exert themselves beyond the bare minimum and capable only of whining until someone with real gumption comes along to do their stealing for them, the wealthy know how quickly they can make such incompetents simply go away. throw the idiots a bone. let them gnaw on scraps and they'll think they've hit the big time. that's all their heroes in government do, so they're used to getting little and being told it has value. these poor fools don't understand that if they'd embrace a little sacrifice, hard work and risk they'd get so much more for so much less effort.

 

WOW I always suspectetd coworkers was jealous of my type who could out work them, faster and smarter and we always got the rewards that came with it.Its not "brown nosing" you treat you boss/plant manager/the owner of your company right and they will reward you if you want it or not. I dont know how many jobs I quit in my life and they called me and begged fcr me to come back... because my type is dying out fast just curious though do you want every worker to be like your local Dmv office?

 

Even dying is generic. He doesn't even mention "died saving hundreds of people" or, whether they died or not, " they saved more people than other cities' departments have in similar situations." When only sacrifice or hard work (quantity, not quality) counts and achievements don't matter, it shows a peasant's attitude and a bullying attitude on the part of the people who told us to evaluate things that way.

If I have a choice between two doctors bidding for my services, I'd ask about their GPAs, not about whether they worked their way through school or had to join the Air Force to help them get financing. In fact, someone who works so much doesn't have the time or energy for schoolwork, so I wouldn't choose such a sacrificing brown-nose at all. What these bootlickers think is a positive that we should reward them for is a negative for society. We shouldn't rate their value to us based on how much money they make either. We don't need surgeons, we need good surgeons and that can only happen if we reward talent up front and never ask the talented to sacrifice. No wonder our talent pool has turned into a puddle. Water doesn't count for anything to these sacrificial lambs, only sweat does. That's all we're given to drink by the sheiks at the oases.

 

A strawman enormous enough to supply your Kool-Aid drinkers with straws to last until Jonestown. Just like your previous, "Work until you do permanent damage to your personality or you are lazy," how can you really claim that the police could have gotten away with such imaginary negligence? They would have been put in prison or hounded for their cowardice so much that they would have committed suicide.

 

I'm glad the guillotine fodder dismiss us as a threat, because then they won't see us coming. Keep it up, giving them your bad advice.

 

I do agree with you on the Billionares... but what do you suggest on how we can attack them? 90% tax bracket wont work....and if it did we would just end up with local post offices with gold plated water faucets.. either we have rich civilians or rich government officials...greed is just human nature. if you have a plan kind of interested.

 

Before I begin, I want to repeat what I said earlier: I do not ask for gratitude simply because I choose to work in a position that puts my life at risk of harm from violence, as I am paid fairly for what I do, and I do so by my own accord. In short, simply because I am a police does not entitle me to your respect or gratitude.

However, I feel the necessity to point out one difference. You said, "do I ask for a pat on the back for doing my job instead of "running away", and the implied answer is no, you do not. Well, let me ask you this, is there a consistent danger of losing your life inherent to your job, and is the sole purpose of your job, not to make a profit, but to assist people in distress and protect members of society by enforcing the laws that it has put into place?

It's a teacher's job to teach, so does that mean we shouldn't be greatful? It is a doctor's "job" to save lives, so does that mean we shouldn't be grateful? It was the "job" of the soldiers who stormed the beaches of Normandy, so does that mean we shouldn't be grateful?

In my opinion, the answer is a resounding NO, OF COURSE WE SHOULD STILL BE GRATEFUL! Look up the definition of humility sir, and ponder long and hard on it's virtues!

First and foremost Sir, YOU WERE NOT THERE, so YOU DO NOT KNOW what you would have done. Secondly, if you would like to go back and read what I posted, I GRACIOUSLY acknowledged not only the police, but firefighters and CIVILIANS for saving thousands of lives.

Finally, it is not "hero worship", it is called RESPECT. A notion that, sadly, is lost on so many people these days.

First, let me thank you for not tring to disrespect me. Seriously, thank you. I do appreciate your civility.

Let me say, with all do respect Sir, I do not work for any politicians, nor are they my bosses, my friends, associates, or acquaintances. I am not, Sir, a "taker of freedom", I am a protector of society. I do not create the laws, I simply enforce the laws. Even the ones I do not particularly like.

If enforcing the laws equates to "oppressing the people", than I will pray every night that people who think like you never come into power. Without laws and those to enforce them, there is anarchy, and if you think anarchy is superior to what we have now, then God help us all if you ever dictate policy!

Finally, do not profess to "know" what others think, particularly what "all" of a particular group thinks. That is sheer, unadulterated ignorance to imply. It is obvious that you DO NOT "know" what others think, and it is usually people who profess to "know" things as an absolute who do the most harm to humanity.

Thank you, and and you as well.

 

I am not part of the 1% Sir, but I will do everything in my power to prevent anyone from living in fear. You are sorely misinformed if you believe the millions of good people of this country will sit idly by and allow you to impose, through fear, your will on anyone. I can guarantee you this however, should you try, YOU, and those like you, shall likewise KNOW FEAR. I promise you.

 

how often have we heard cowards beat their chests and pronounce themselves "a power to be reckoned with". your problem is you don't know what real tyranny is, so you slap that label on anyone with power that you don't like. at the same time, you embrace the tyranny of the state and the tyranny of the mob because you like their message.

don't fool yourself, we see you coming and we laugh. you see, it isn't the 1% you're fighting. you fight against what i like to call the 76%, those of us who understand the basic struggle of life. unlike you, we don't expect anything for free and we are the vast majority. we work to better ourselves and those we care for. we may not like working hard, but we do it because it's better than the alternative. we take the occasional risk because this is the nature of life. sometimes the risk pays off, sometimes it doesn't. we sacrifice for family and friends, sometimes even total strangers, because we would hope that someone else would do the same for us. we spit on folks like you because we know you are incapable of putting yourself out for anything that doesn't profit you directly.

guess what, we love the rich. we don't bow and scrape like you do before your statist idols, but we use them to get what we want. we don't demand handouts or beg others to do our stealing for us. we freely make agreements to use what the wealthy have, combine it with what we have and make something more valuable that can offer us its profit. they make money, we make money and everyone walks away happy. so they make more than we do, so what. this is the nature of a free marketplace and the 76% makes full use of it.

 

the only plan such folks have is to take what others have and use it until it runs out. they don't look far enough ahead to have any real plan, only envy. they live under the mistaken impression that the will of the mob can somehow manifest itself in some productive manner, without anyone to direct their actions and without anything to manage their greed. they are the enemy of the individual and the unwitting accomplice of tyrants everywhere.

the truth is that billionaires really have done nothing to you. you have more to fear from the unruly mob than from the wealthy. while billionaires hardly even know you exist, the mob will destroy everything you own in a fit of pique and then demand more when they have used up what they have taken. where billionaires have the capacity to create industry, the mob is only capable of tearing it down. as billionaires can afford to give, the mob can only take.

 

Rich and poor is relative to your perspective. Our dirt poor appear to live like kings as compared to people in other nations. Should we take their wealth and redistribute it to poorer people than them that way everyone is equal everywhere. I'm guessing if we evened it all out we would all have outhouses and have to go get water with a bucket from a well again. Would that make the left happy? Im guessing yes as long as it doesn't apply to them.

 

I actually agree that some Leftists definitely go too far (usually the same ones who use redistribution rhetoric), and that many poor and average citizens have more than a touch of envy towards the super-rich. What I am saying is that TAKEN AS A WHOLE the super-rich have had by far the best of the deal even in relative terms in the past few decades. The rich have benefitted by riding on their coat-tails.

A truly fair outcome in the American economic system would have been for everyone to have the same rate of real wealth growth over that period (in aggregate, of course as every category has its individual winners and losers). If the super-rich had a growth of 50% in real wealth (adding a million, say) while the rich had also had a growth of 50% in real wealth (adding a hundred thousand, say) and the average Joe had a growth of 50% in real wealth (adding ten thousand, say) then that would have been a fair outcome.

What I am objecting to is that the benefits of the RELATIVE (not nominal or absolute) increases in real wealth in America during the past few decades have been heavily skewed towards the super-rich. For someone else to turn around and argue they are being picked on is either grossly naive or outright dangerous because it means they are buying the spin put out by the pro-super-rich lobbyists and apologists.

 

Maybe your co-workers weren't "jealous." Maybe they couldn't stand your self-righteous yesman personality. I know I can't.

 

First, because it's never been allowed to be suggested, cut off their ability to buy the love of their neglected children. Make their spoiled-rotten sheltered brats have to face the "choices" the rest of us are forced into. The plutocrats know perfectly well that their little darlings will drop out just like most of the rest of us if they have to work their way through college. So, in order to protect their children, they will have to protect everybody else's children too and demand that the indentured servitude of college education will be replaced with highly paid professional education at age 16. Speaking of that, no one's Daddy can buy him a car and get him insurance. He'll have to compete for this paid education in order to afford that on his own.

If we can spread this around, people will automatically vote for the non-Heirhead candidate or not vote at all. When baseball announcer Harry Caray's son Skip and grandson Chip inherited his job, people never should have given the kids a chance, because birth privileges deserve the death penalty. That should apply even if the Caray heirheads have talent, because they don't take others with talent and set things up for them to get ahead without self-destructive sacrifice. Out of defiance, class patriots should have turned off the volume of the TV and listened to it through the radio. Things like that. The motto for a free generation should be "Punch a preppy for lunch!"

Talk about "trust-fund babies" etc. is not even a hint of defiance because it's always selectively applied to only those Heirheads whose political position differs from the one gullibly held by the phony critics.

 

If we are intelligently led, we would be assigned to infiltrate Blackwater, the Army, and the police bodyguards for the elitists. If we are not intelligently led, we deserve our class slavery.

In my generation (the ones who went to Vietnam; the rest are just a media creation), we had no future but thought we did. In the present generation, the Millennials have no future and know it. That is a dangerous situation. I don't really care to which side you have been brainwashed to think you have a duty to protect.

 

Spending the day with my family, so I'm forced to be terse. I just couldn't resist! Lol

Just wanted to say thank you for your civility. You raise some valid points, and in the spirit of fairness, I will admit that I can understand your position, and why you believe what you do. I guess the result of being raised by depression era grandparents is that I have an "old fashion way" of doing things. While I believe that many things done the "old fashion way" are superior to their modern equivalents, I'd be a fool to not readily acknowledge that there also many things done "the old fashion way" that were, quite simply put, wrong on many levels. I am always open to change which has the possibility of improvement, but I am sometimes hesitant to fix something that I perceive to be "not broken".

I guess the best way to sum up my position would be to say that while I acknowledge the flaws in the current system, I do not believe the flaws to be as bad as some others profess, and I perceive some of the modifications being suggested to be just as unfair, if not more so, then the ones being attempted to be addressed.

Back to what is most important to me, my family! Have a wonderful day everyone!

 

How does your version of fair account for overall behavior? If two people each have a million dollars, one invests it and ends up with 1.5 million, the other buys a ferrari and wrecks it, ending up with with a half-million dollars, is that an unfair outcome?

Much of the reason that poor and middle class wealth hasn't grown much and in fact has gone down in many cases is because of the availability and use of easy credit. Instead of going toward their wealth accumulation, much of their disposable income has gone to interest payments. Much of the rest has gone into things that go down in value, such as cars and houses during the early 2000s. There was wealth to gain and they had the opportunity, they just squandered it while the rich made use of it.

More interestingly, the poor and middle class people who did save and invest their money are the rich that have gained that skewed share of the wealth. Widespread use of 401k accounts and other such retirement mechanisms, as well as the growth in home values for people who bought in the 80s and 90s pushed many working-class Americans into that top 10% bracket that ended up with far more wealth. Anyone who actually listens to the retirement planners will be in the top 10% by retirement.

Still, if you want to get a better balance of wealth levels, the most effective single step you can take is to eliminate easy credit. This will cut down on negative wealth ratings, reduce the amount of disposable income squandered on interest, and force people to learn the kinds of responsible spending and savings habits that help people to end up wealthier overall.

 

Yup, disabled people should get off their butts and get to work. Children should earn their keep and pay for their medical care when they have cancer. Homeless people who suffer from mental illness should stop being so lazy.

And rich people never ever get that way from exploiting people, or inheriting millions, or exploiting financial systems. Let us build statues in honor of the perfect and wonderful rich people who deserve to dive in swimming pools of money while children die from starvation or illness


(I'm really confused by your post, given your profile/signature).

 

Can you point to times in history that happened? If the wealthy are growing too much, should the government punish them with more taxes, or tell them to just not show up to work for the rest of the year?

 

Your mind has been warped from sniffing too much boot polish as you lick the Gucci boots of your Masters. Of course, you have to think that everybody else is as slavish as you people. That's why, if you can stop drooling the spit you're using to shine the boots of the plutocratic parasites, you have to preach to us real Americans that the alternative to your brown-nosing is to become slaves of the GUBMINT!!!

Your idols' ignorant and sheltered smug feeling of security reminds me of some hoity-toity rich snob British officer at New Orleans in 1815 when he was told who was coming after him.

"Jackson? The Indian Fighter? Pssh! What nerve! A low-class upstart thinks he can fight a professional army? The riffraff mob of peasants he calls 'soldiers' will probably all desert him before he ever gets near this place!"

 

You've forgotten the most important of all, because it is a matter of life or death and has established the status of real Americans ever since the Vietnam War, that, "We should be proud to die taking a rich kid's place!"