Is it really so bad if a man slips a woman an abortion pill?

This is advocating the equivalent of pushing a woman down a flight of stairs to achieve a forced miscarriage. Removing the "assault" and making it a pill is just as wrong.

IMHO

 

Basically correct. But why would it be wrong? Let's focus on that.
If it's OK for the woman to kill the fetus, what makes it not OK for someone else to kill?
That was essentially the original question in the OP.

 

If you would have read ALL the many many posts that addressed that issue you SHOULD'VE learned words like "consent " and "choice" and what they have to do with the death of the fetus.

I'm afraid that you can't get past the "woman is property to be controlled by men" thing(they have no right to choice or consent)....but women are individual people and have rights. whether you think they should or not.

 

because the pill can have side effects to the women's body, that is the same as assult

 

It's wrong, because it is a forced decision being made. Again, it's like the stairs scenario except it isn't as blatant, but the end result is same. That makes it wrong in and of itself,regardless of ones position on abortion.

 

For the same reason that you can take a baseball bat to your own head, but if someone does it to you, it's a crime.

Are you really this clueless or just pretending to be?

 

This has been answered numerous times over the many posts you have tried to put forward, the fact you choose to ignore reality is your failing not anyone elses.

 

In my opinion, you went off track in the second sentence: "You can't say that it's a baby if the woman wants it, and a meaningless clump of cells if she doesn't want it."

I have never heard anybody make such a claim. I believe most pro-choice advocates would say it is a woman's right to think of her developing fetus as her baby (and it should be encouraged if she wants to keep and raise her newborn). It is also her right to think of it as an invading attacker if she does not want to produce a newborn in a few months. The fact that the lady down the street calls that tiny dog in her purse her "baby" does not prove it is a person. Inside the womb, it is a potential person but that is only significant to a woman who wants a newborn person in a few months.

Therefore, I see no problem with the position that it is wrong for a man to induce a woman to have an abortion against her will AND it is wrong for a man to prevent a woman from getting an abortion (assuming she made that decision of her own free will).

 

Except the end result isn't really a physical effect upon the woman's body.

I'm afraid that you can't seem to get past the "fetus is property that deserves to be controlled by the woman" notion.

We know that pushing a pregnant woman down a flight of stairs is wrong because, for one thing, pushing any woman down a flight of stairs is wrong, whether she's pregnant or not. The question is how much relevancy does the fact that she is pregnant have? Does it make it more wrong to push her down the stairs because she is pregnant? Why so?
What if (just for the sake of argument here) it were hypothetically possible to terminate the fetus without any effects on the woman's body whatsoever? What would make that wrong?
Does the woman have some sort of inherent right to determine what will happen to the fetus? (Apart from how her body will be physically affected I mean)

 

I'll only address this because the rest of your post is the usual bizarre "How can I hurt women and get away with it " crap.

YOU:""Does the woman have some sort of inherent right to determine what will happen to the fetus?""

Yes. Who TF else? Is it IN anyone else? Is it harming anyone else? Does anyone else even know it's there ??? Is it in the woman or floating in the air outside making it anyone's?



I'm afraid that you can't seem to get past the "women as property that deserves to be controlled by some weird people's " notion...

 

And one that has been answered and answered and everyone catches on but you....do you ever wonder why?

 

The reality is that pro-lifers cannot see beyond the very things they want, they have this rose-tinted ideology that all it will take is for the unborn to be deemed as persons from conception and "magically" elective abortion will become a myth to frighten children with.

Neither can they get passed the reality that the unborn injure the female in EVERY pregnancy, they just want to ignore that so they can preach about how "innocent" the poor little "victim" is.