Wow. Stop asking what my agenda or what I approve of. I have not discussed any of that. this change in how we view sex did not come out of a vacuum. There was a reason we changed. If you want people to stop seeing sex as primarily recreational and more about procreation, you have to provide fewer disincentives to keep on procreating. Those babies cannot go hungry because there are so many of them, and only one outside income. Mom cannot be in the workforce to supplement Dad's income and take care of 6 kids. Got it yet?
We shouldn't be arguing about abortion, we should be arguing about if we should let people get pregnant in the first place. There's a reason we neuter animals, otherwise they create mobs of feral creatures that attack people at random.
That's one great thing about the more rabid pro-choicers. They don't even try to make sense. The overwhelming majority of women aren't in any danger of dying when they have a baby.
FoxHastings said: ↑ It is inherently despicable and barbaric to let a woman die to save a fetus. What have the numbers got to do with it? THAT doesn't make any sense.....if a pregnant woman needs an abortion to save her life, she needs an abortion to save her life. How many other women are in that situation makes no difference. Anti-Choicers just can't see common sense and logic or they wouldn't be Anti-Choice (and anti-rights). Again: It is inherently despicable and barbaric to let a woman die to save a fetus. It is despicable and barbaric to claim it doesn't matter if a woman dies because of her pregnancy because not many women do.
YES, taking away some of some people's rights CAN lead to other rights being lost....it can lead to women (and men) being told they aren't allowed to have kids.... Once the government owns you, they own you..... and you might not be on their side when your rights are taken away...
Good to see an Anti-Choicer admit the people who think ALL life is so precious only want white newborns and to heck with any other kids... She can always adopt or she can have an abortion (which is much cheaper than going through 9 months of pregnancy and childbirth.) BTW, you forgot some questions: And "they" were wrong. Blacks were BORN persons who should have had rights. Wanna bring in slavery? OK , let's....it's slavery to force women to gestate and give birth, that was done to slave women.... Want women to be OWNED like animals and forced to gestate ?, that's what was done to slaves Did you want slave women?? Sounds like it.""""""""""""
YUPPERS! If some of women's rights are taken away by banning abortion( FORCED gestation) the door is wide open for FORCED abortion. Why not? If the state owns pregnant women's bodies, it owns their bodies... Yup, China didn't care about individual rights EITHER.
And having arms,legs, and a brain do NOT make one a person . Totally irrelevant to anything. YUP, have the number of the nearest abortion clinic. So?....why would that have anything to do with a woman's right to have an abortion. BTW, a miscarriage(spontaneous abortion) is "natural", too. It is quite natural for women who don't want a kid. I see you do not believe in heart transplants or blood transfusion or any surgery or medicine.......so UNnatural... You are correct...she doesn't have to take a drug if she doesn't want to...just like you don't have to take a drug if you don't want to. So? Funny how you missed that most excellent post #61.....
A meniscus left unimpeded and undisturbed does not ever have the capacity for growth, or for a complete life.
You find you are very attracted to this great looking woman with a body able to cause gods to go wild, she has had a dozen abortions. Do you as a possible mate have a right to learn this ahead of falling in love with her? If she has but one, do you have a right to know?
The more abortions that take place, the cheaper life is. I believe I see a vast change in public outlook since Roe made the mistake she made. She really was upset later in life at what she caused.
So what? She isn't the Supreme Court... BTW, the more wars there are the cheaper life is. The more funding is cut to Welfare, WIC, SNAP the cheaper life is.
diamond lil said: ↑ There has always been a need for abortion and always will be. Sex for fun is as old as time. What has that got to do with the post you quoted?????? But, no, NO one has a right to know the details of another's life (the cops do if you're under arrest).
Don't bother me with those what does it have to do with questions. If you did not understand move past the post. Marriage or even dating must have boundaries. Such a boundary is the past. If a future mate is in the dark, later learns the truth, a lot of hell breaks loose. The woman might learn past marriage that the man was deep in debt to the IRS or had women in the wings who would later sue him. She should be able to marry an honest person as he should be in her checkered past have his right.
We are so far from each other on politics you may as well be in Siberia and me in California. But I believe you know that.
It's interesting to speculate how the decision might have turned out differently if she hadn't (falsely) claimed to have been raped by a gang of black men. Anyway it's not all her fault, she was coaxed into it by a pair of lawyers.
Totally irrelevant to abortion or the abortion debate.....how about some more of your "personal yet extremely boring" Tales of Robert's Life?
FoxHastings said: ↑ So what? She isn't the Supreme Court... BTW, the more wars there are the cheaper life is. The more funding is cut to Welfare, WIC, SNAP the cheaper life is. Which has nothing to do , as usual, with the post of mine you quoted. If you don't want to discuss the topic why don't you start your own thread? Maybe title it "Ramblings and Incoherencies"
Oh, you had a head start..... now if you want to discuss me and not the topic ( or you can't discuss the topic) I'm afraid I'm done...
