Is the American Taliban's version of God worse than Hitler?

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  1. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    I am making this argument on the premise of the conservative Christians on this board. This is an excellent example:

    I have seen verse often cited to state that thinking of a sin (any sin) is just as bad as actually committing it (thought crime):
    So on this premise:
    1. The punishment of thought crimes. Lets say, disbelieving in the Christian God.
    2. The said thought crime is for all eternity in the lake of fire (as often pushed by the American Taliban, and a thought the cited post above promotes)

    Is the American Taliban's version of God worse than Hitler?
    1. Hitler could not punish people for their thoughts.
    2. Hitler could not punish people for all eternity.

    On this premise, the American Taliban's model of God is worse than any dictator that has ever existed.

    So before you accuse me of making strawmen (as usual), why not work on getting your own ranks in order?
     
  2. taikoo

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    Tallybans are tallybans, regardless of which sky-god they are invoking, and whether they are red blooded americans or bearded cave hiders in the sand box.

    i had one tell me he prays to god daily for word to start shooting the atheists.
     
  3. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Which why I advocate, firearms and ammunition.

    Same thing with my gay brother, I hound him to shoot his pistol, learn how to use it, and get his CCW.
     
  4. Swensson

    Swensson Devil's advocate

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    I agree, Talibans are Talibans, but most Americans are not them. Is name calling really so important that you're willing to stuff so much of it in a thread that your opponents can easily and correctly prove you wrong without addressing the actual topic?
     
  5. taikoo

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    Sheesh I hope not! did I? i will try immediately to improve myself. I dont think I do name calling...

    And I am very glad that the Taliban-like among the Christians are a small minority.

    I'm told btw that the fundamentalists who hold Iran represent about 25% of the people, their religious views.

    I don know what % it would take to control the USA.

    Thanks for the thought, I will be careful to avoid doing what you said.
     
  6. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's always charming when someone is prepared to commit murder to defend a logically indefensible ideology.
     
  7. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Good point, that. It doesn't take a majority for a group to seize control. What it takes is a level of complicity or, at minimum, apathy. All it takes, to paraphrase the famous phrase, is for people to do nothing while even a small minority act as they please. Human society is actually almost always a tale of the tail wagging the dog.
     
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    You Zionists who reject God are going to learn the hard way what happens when you abandon Him. Are you proud of your homosexual brother? Do you find pride in Sin? Do you find pride in sex for pleasure? I bet you do, Zionist. Your thread, like your thoughts, are repulsive and disgusting. Who are you to criticize God and TRUE CHRISTIANS? You're going to pay for putting your trust in Satan.
     
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    You can see that these traitorous Zionists, who are loyal to ISRAEL FIRST, not their own country, are exposing themselves. When the chips are down, you can never rely on an ISRAELI FIRSTER. These traitors in the midst, who hate and mock God, are going to be judged by Him.
     
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    Swensson Devil's advocate

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    The thing I said about name calling applies to you too, you know.
     
  11. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    You just substantiated the OP.

    The irony is delicious.
     
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    I don't follow the New Testament blasphemy. I go by the Old Testament, the old rules. The TRUE rule. And eye for the eye is TRULY the Christian way. We cannot forgive a heathen, who rejects Christ. Christ's lessons of forgiveness do not go to the undue. You must EARN FORGIVENESS. Forgiveness is earned. The New Testaments are the true heretics and blasphemers against God.

    Wolverine the Zio-Lib, all he wants to do is mock and hate God. This cannot be tolerated, Swennson! You know this! You know that he is trying to antagonize and incite negative reactions. So I feed him his own medicine. He needs to learn a lesson. And it is both your duty and my duty, to teach Wolverine, that his cunning and deceitful ways, will be met with a proper negative reaction.

    We should never expect to put up with a criminal, and "forgive" all his crimes by compulsion. The TRULY CHRISTIAN idea of Sin and Forgiveness, includes Punishment. The wicked must be punished. Spare the rod, spoil the child. The OLD WAYS must never be forgotten. And little punks, like these Zionist traitors, need to be punished for their wickedness for going against God. Traitors must not be forgiven. And mocking God is a SIN.
     
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    I'm certain that God knows of your endless mockery and deceitfulness, Wolverine. You should be ashamed of yourself, and you will be shamed! Your "holier than thou", smug Zio-atheist attitude, needs to be put down. You need to be silenced. Your mockery needs to learn some limits.
     
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    Please, we get the whole christian taliban thing already, you can quit now.
     
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    People like you are why I own firearms.
     
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    If you go by the Old Testament, how can you follow Jesus? Jesus isn't in the Old Testament?

    Jesus also didn't say anything about having to earn forgiveness.

    If anything, you are the one who is blaspheming. You are no different from a Johovah's Witness or Mormon. You reject the parts of the Bible that don't line up with your personal beliefs and then make up stuff to fill the gap.
     
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    Heretic claims the New Testament is blasphemy, yet claims to be Christian.

    The irony is delicious.
     
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    Christianity will keep us safe, not these Israeli and Muslim terrorists who infiltrated our lands, and call themselves "citizens" of our ONCE GREAT NATION. The traitors will be exposed. You are either loyal to your homeland, or you're a traitor.
     
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    I hope, for your sake, my Zio-atheist friend, that this is not a threat?
     
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    Heretic.. the OT was written by Ezra the scribe under King Josiah... after the Babylonian exile. Its agenda was political and intended to forge a national identity, encourage literacy and a central government.
     
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    YOU are the one making threats.
     
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    Telling the truth is never threatening. If the truth threatens you, then maybe you are the ones with the problem?

    Just because I expose the Israeli-firster Zionists, and Muslim terrorists, doesn't make me a bad guy. Muslims have showed their loyalty to our ONCE GREAT NATION on 9-11. NEVER FORGET!!!!!!!!!!! Muslims need to repent for this Sin. The Israeli-firsters are another story. But these are not loyal to our ONCE GREAT NATION.

    Don't blame me for pointing out the obvious. If you want to be loyal to your homeland, then you should really consider what this means. Is religion important or not? What does religion have to do with loyalty?
     
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    You have been saying that atheists need to be "silenced". In what world is that not a threat?

    BTW, feel free to provide a link to me on this forum saying that I support Israel over America. Do it or admit that you are a lying piece of (*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    My God.. are you doing battle inside your own head. You attribute statements to others that they never made and then go off on some self-aggrandizing rant.
     
  25. Heretic

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    Don't take me out of context, hypocrite.

    What did I say specifically? Do you remember?

    I said MOCKING GOD IS UNACCEPTABLE! I cannot tolerate this. I hate that Wolverine can try to make a mockery of something valuable, honorable, and noble. I hate this demeaning, hateful attitude, that goes UNPUNISHED! I don't like that this attitude is so widely accepted, that we are all expected to tolerate being spat upon, and the "winner" is the fool who spits most!

    This is disgusting, animal behavior. Have you no DIGNITY?! This is what I cannot tolerate. HAVE SOME DIGNITY AND RESPECT FOR OTHERS!!!!! Wolverine is the MAIN proponent and instigator of this. He needs to learn a lesson. He needs to learn some respect for other people's beliefs, ESPECIALLY CHRISTIANS!!!!!!

    I'm tired of you atheists thinking you have some sort of "free pass" to (*)(*)(*)(*) on and desecrate what you CANNOT EVEN UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!!!!

    I'd say, "how do you like being pissed on?!" but then, some of you atheists actually do enjoy this disgusting debauchery. You atheists represent everything corrupt and low about the world today. It is NOT ACCEPTABLE to let everybody run around like animals, without morals, ethics, and dignity. But, this is what you atheistkult is all about, right? Wolverine is yoru leader, isn't he?
     

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