Is the American Taliban's version of God worse than Hitler?

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  1. Heretic

    Heretic Active Member

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    Quit taking sides, Margot. You clearly are with the atheists on this one!
     
  2. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    So you think that people who mock God should be silenced, yes?

    That is a threat. I'm sorry that you hate freedom of speech, but it is the law in America. If you don't like, stop posting on this forum. You don't have a right to not be offended.

    If more Christians were like you, I would advise atheists to begin arming themselves as well.
     
  3. Margot

    Margot Account closed, not banned

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    Oh I am no Atheist.. I just know more about the Bible than you..

    BTW.. you should calm down before you stroke.

    The OT was written by Ezra under King Josiah after the Babylonian exile.. for a purpose.. To consolidate Jewish identity and Jewish law and to create a centrl government.
     
  4. Heretic

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    Forget about that.

    What gives Zionists like WOLVERINE the "right" to (*)(*)(*)(*) on, desecrate, and mock other people's beliefs?

    At least we actually BELIEVE IN SOMETHING! The atheists believe in nothing. They're low lifes, and need to cling onto something they don't even understand. The atheist exists to mock something with dignity. This is very evil. This is why Satan is so powerful. But, I say, enough is enough! Let's end this mockery. Christians deserve RESPECT and even, adoration. Nobody else can even come close to claiming as much GOODNESS IN THIS WORLD, than TRUE CHRISTIANS can. TRUE CHRISTIANS should feel very proud for being so GOOD.

    Atheists just want to latch onto this feeling. They want to take away from it, without earning it. Atheists don't even understand what it is they're doing. Do CHRISTIANS go around spitting on other people? No, we live and let live. It's the ATHEIST who wants to harm and destroy. I will not allow this to happen. Christians deserve much more, and deserve respect.
     
  5. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    The First Amendment to the United States Constitution.

    You may hate the Freedom of Speech, but you still have to respect our right to it.

    That is an utter lie.
     
  6. Heretic

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    It's called the freedom to SPEAK!

    Not the freedom to SLANDER, you hypocrite! You and Wolverine need to learn some respect. If you think you can spit on Christians forever, then you are SORELY MISTAKEN! Take a look in the mirror, desecrating graves, digging them up and grave robbing, you're not going to get away with it forever. There is a limit to patience. Just because CHRISTIANS aspire to have the wisdom and patience of CHRIST, doesn't mean that all CHRISTIANS are as forgiving as He was, or as I am.

    Let's see how long YOU ATHEISTS can be spat in the face, without reacting negatively!? My guess is, not long at all. You'll strike back instantly, you're so PROUD, aren't you? You get to spit on other people, without worrying about backlash?

    You think that's going to last forever???????????????????????? You think your privilege has no limit?????

    Careful where you tread on other people's beliefs!

    You and your buddy, Wolverine, especially you, beware! If you think spitting on other people is so fun, it's fun to mock GOD, then don't be surprised when somebody's PATIENCE runs out! You hypocrites need to learn an important lesson.

    Freedom of SPEECH, not freedom of SLANDER, LEARN THE DIFFERENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  7. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    You can react negatively all you want so long as it is speech. The instant that you attempt to physically prevent an atheist from speaking I hope that atheist defends themselves against your oppression. With weapons if need be.

    BTW, in order for it to be Slander, you have to prove harm. Feel free to do so. BTW, being offended does not count as harm.

    And are you really claiming that atheists don't get spat on? If someone told you every day that you are an evil person who deserves to be tortured forever, would you not consider that being spat on?

    Feel free to back up your claims that atheists engage in "grave robbing" or admit that you are a lying piece of (*)(*)(*)(*).
     
  8. Swensson

    Swensson Devil's advocate

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    I'd really like to make a sentence by sentence response to this, but I feel it would make the thread unbearable to read, so this'll have to do.

    For starters, you have a tendency to say things, often in caps, that we have no reason to believe. You say that the old testament is the true rule, but your tendency to write it in caps with no other explanation hints to us that you're trying to avoid telling us why you believe those things. That makes us think you're hiding something, or that you're trying to trick us. Both makes us less likely to believe what you say.

    I have no reason to believe Wolverine is a "Zio-lib", I don't keep track of everyone's opinions, and if he was, he has the right to be. All he wants to do is mock and hate God? He certainly wants to mock him, but I don't particularly he wants to hate him, and most importantly, I don't think that's all he wants. I think he's got ulterior motives, be them ridiculing people to make them stop believing, or point out flaws in arguments hoping that people will stop believing from logic. I don't particularly agree with his methods, and in particular the frequency in which he applies them, but as a proponent of free speech, I think it's counter productive to "not tolerate" it. Every faulty argument can be refuted, if you think he's wrong, it would be easier for you, him and others if you would just point those parts out than to go through some process to stop him posting. I refute some faulty arguments, his, yours, anyone's wherever I see them and can be asked to.

    And then there is the last paragraph, which again falls flat whenever you don't dogmatically accept your word as truth. You write it's "TRULY CHRISTIAN" but to me, it just looks like you just made it up. What is the basis for someone "needing to be punished" and what would be my reason to agree with you?
     
  9. MAYTAG

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    LOL. Boy I hope no one ever says that to me. I'd give him word right away. Better be one hell of a shot.
     
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    this reminds me of the old English sport of bear baiting.
     
  11. MrConservative

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    Try not to be so paranoid. People are a lot more tougher on the internet then in real life.
     
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    MrConservative Well-Known Member

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    Heretic, please calm down. It's not nice to threaten board members. Also, how can you accuse others of being Zionist when you are a self professed Christian that only believes in the Old Testament?
     
  13. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    The psychotic persons such as yourself are the reason why I own firearms.
     
  14. MrConservative

    MrConservative Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure what is meant but the American Taliban. I know who the Taliban are, and I know they murder and kill people. Is this your view on the Christian Right? I'm not even retain what is meant by that term either? Are they Christians whose beliefs are influenced by the conservative political ideology, or Christians who believe their doctrines are unchangeable?

    There is a difference between capacity of evil, and a capacity to do evil. Hitler didn't punish people for thought crimes or all of eternity simply because he couldn't. Would he have if he had the power? Who knows? So how could you possibly tell if one was worse? Assuming what your definition of worse is in this situation.

    The point of the verse in Matthew is that it's not enough to not commit adultery, but also not to indulge in impure thoughts. The verse says that you have committed adultery in your heart, not the act itself. You have already gone past the thought itself and indulged in it.
     
  15. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    By American Taliban I refer to those who believe the government should impose the will of religion on the masses.

    Such as... forcing women to carry the product of their rape.

    Baring gays from equal protection under the law.

    Or placing them in a concentration camp.
     

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