Is the NRA partially to blame for the Charlottesville violence?

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  1. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    These people walking around carrying AR-15's and other rifles are nothing more then overgrown children playing soldier; I wouldn't take them seriously as adults in this case.
     
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    given the time you spend complaining about them and gun owners in general, its obvious you do take them seriously
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your opinion is duly noted. Thanks for your response.
     
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    Nobody in that picture seems to care. So why do you care?
     
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    I know, but children have to learn not to play with firearms without adult supervision.
     
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    Xenamnes Banned

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    And now you have chosen to equate the legal carrying of firearms, to nothing more than children playing with toys?
     
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    That sounds like a threat.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    its based on his pique over the voting patterns of the NRA and its members
     
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  9. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    The answer has been provided several times now and it is NOT a simplistic BINARY answer for those who lack the ability to understand the Law of the Land.

    The CONTEXT and INTENT matters when it comes to determining what constitutes Fighting Words that are NOT protected free speech.

    Your inability to comprehend the answer is NOT my problem. If you post the same inane question again you will just prove my point.

    Have a nice day!
     
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    Meaning that one cannot explain whether such an utterance truly amounts to fighting words, or if black individuals simply choose to have, and exercise poor impulse control, and are prone to violent outbursts in a manner that is no different from a rabid animal. Apologists will claim that they were antagonized and forced to attack someone, even when the available evidence would suggest that the mere presence of the person attacked was the only justification given for the attack being committed in the first place.
     
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    Fighting words are protected by free speech and why you can legally call cops pigs and give them the finger. It has nothing to do with context or intent which are subjective and capricious. Only content matters and government cannot discriminate based on content.
     
  12. Derideo_Te

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    Assumes extremist alt right racist disinformation NOT in evidence.

    Thank you for proving me correct.

    Have a nice day!
     
  13. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Assumes extremist alt right racist disinformation NOT in evidence.
     
  14. Hoosier8

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    LOL, thanks for proving you have no clue about free speech.
     
  15. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Ironic!
     
  16. Hoosier8

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    Thems fightin words! Bwahahaha! Still no clue eh?
     
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  17. Galileo

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    I was speculating that maybe the police had a good reason not to intervene and stop the violence. However, they may have actually wanted the violence to escalate:

    “It is the responsibility of law enforcement to ensure safety of both protesters and counter-protesters. The policing on Saturday was not effective in preventing violence. I was there and brought concerns directly to the secretary of public safety and the head of the Virginia State Police about the way that the barricades in the park limiting access by the arriving demonstrators and the lack of any physical separation of the protesters and counter-protesters on the street were contributing to the potential of violence. They did not respond. In fact, law enforcement was standing passively by, seeming to be waiting for violence to take place, so that they would have grounds to declare an emergency, declare an ‘unlawful assembly’ and clear the area."
    https://acluva.org/20108/aclu-of-vi...-responsible-for-violence-in-charlottesville/
     
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    “We asked the city to adhere to the U.S. Constitution and ensure people’s safety at the protest. It failed to do so. In our system, the city makes the rules and the courts enforce them. Our role is to ensure that the system works the same for everyone.

    Of course, anyone who combines 1st and 2nd Amendment rights won't have the support of the ACLU. Those who show up with cuddles and clubs will be, even though those weapons, and not guns, were used violently at Charlottesville.
     
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    Inane response!
     
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    To an inane response.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Projecting again?
     
  22. Hoosier8

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    Nah, just responding to nonsense.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    You respond to your own posts? :eek:
     
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    I hate the NRA, but even I have to admit that is a tenuous argument at best especially considering the side you are criticizing was pre-approved to be there.
     
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    Cudgels, not cuddles. Cuddles aren't dangerous much.
     

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