Islam Thread

um no its not.

Religion - a system of belief and worship, with a code of ethics and a philosophy (Webster's New World College Dictionary, 4th ed.)

Problem with Islam is it does not have a code of ethics. It has a code of UNethics (genocide, misogyny, wife-beating, pedophilia, slavery, robbery, torture, mutilation, animal cruelty/killing, etc) All in the Koran.

http://www.islam-watch.org/IW/aboutus.htm

http://loganswarning.com/2011/02/19/“allah-is-dead-–-why-islam-is-not-a-religion”/

http://avideditor.wordpress.com/200...ion-nor-is-it-a-cult-it-is-a-complete-system/

http://blogs.ssrc.org/tif/2010/07/28/islam-not-a-religion/

http://www.halfsigma.com/2011/01/islam-not-a-religion.html

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/27211

http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm/frm/100100/sec_id/100100

http://www.neontommy.com/news/2011/11/islam-not-religion-gop-candidate-says-email

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/FH10Aa01.html

http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2011/03/islam-is-not-religion.html

 

take your flames elsewhere.
this thread is not about that.

you have zillion threads to do that.
leave this one alone.

 

FALSE ! And so typical of the LIES that Islamists perpetrate to brainwaswh people who are not yet very aware of the danger of Islam.

Now let's wash away the filth of this previous post with the soap and water called the truth. Here it is :

"Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and forsake them in beds apart, and beat them." (Quran 4:34, "Women," Dawood, p. 83)

 

There's something that we in America value (which Islam hates). It's called FREEDOM OF SPEECH. SO you can go to Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria or one of those other God-forsaken Islamic dictatorships and tell people to shut up. You can't do that here.

 

This thread was started by someone that obviouly has great love for his religion. He started it, presumably to share his faith with other fellow Muslims, yet this thread has been ruined by your irresponsible use of freedom of speech. Your freedom of speech is not being attacked since you can go anywhere else to express your views.

 

FALSE ! He does not have the total right to state anything while being immune to criticism and/or debate. This is an open forum for everyone not just Muslims, and the thread has been enlivened and enriched by the addition of my quite responsible use of freedom of speech, et al.

And since America is under attack by the Muslim ideology, and is in a state of war with it (as pushed by the Muslim Brotherhood and the terrorists) it is essential that people not be misled by the misinformation so commonly spewed by the Brotherhood and its organizations. There is an entire way of life at stake here. There are also lives at stake here. Many of them have already been lost.

There are also a lot of women being hurt, and children being molested. You have a lot of rethinking to do.

 

ethics you don’t like sill ethics it’s a religion it’s just religion can be bad

 

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Sahih International
Indeed, in the creation of the heavens and earth, and the alternation of the night and the day, and the [great] ships which sail through the sea with that which benefits people, and what Allah has sent down from the heavens of rain, giving life thereby to the earth after its lifelessness and dispersing therein every [kind of] moving creature, and [His] directing of the winds and
the clouds controlled between the heaven and the earth are signs for a people who use reason.


um what proves those are all caused by a god and not just natural things that have emerged on their own? Just saying god must have done it is not good reasoning

 

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Those who followed will say, "If only we had another turn [at worldly life] so we could disassociate ourselves from them as they have disassociated themselves from us." Thus will Allah show them their deeds as regrets upon them. And they are never to emerge from the Fire.

what can people do that makes them deserve endless torment a lot of torment for a long time i could by for some things but what’s the point of endless suffering? Unless maybe you caused endless suffering but if people have souls and a good god i don’t see how you could hurt someone forever

 

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And when it is said to them, "Follow what Allah has revealed," they say, "Rather, we will follow that which we found our fathers doing." Even though their fathers understood nothing, nor were they guided?

um what has Allah revealed the Koran is just another book of some ones fathers at least what iv seen translated so far just another book telling you how to live telling you what god will hurt you for and what he will be nice to you for

 

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Sahih International
The example of those who disbelieve is like that of one who shouts at what hears nothing but calls and cries cattle or sheep - deaf, dumb and blind, so they do not understand.

um no not believing a claim doesn’t mean you don’t understand it or that the claim is right this is self-serving dishonesty on the part of whoever is behind it

 

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He has only forbidden to you dead animals, blood, the flesh of swine, and that which has been dedicated to other than Allah . But whoever is forced [by necessity], neither desiring [it] nor transgressing [its limit], there is no sin upon him. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

i know pigs can have diseases and parasites but you can get safe pig to eat

 

Thanks for the post. Please just ignore the trolls, thats the best way to deal with them.

There are plenty of anti-Islam threads, use them.

 

Thanks.

Im born and living in Canada, since there was an Alberta flag I decided to put a Lebanon flag there along with Alberta flag.

 

[2:177] "Righteousness is not that you turn your faces toward the east or the west, but [true] righteousness is [in] one who believes in Allah , the Last Day, the angels, the Book, and the prophets and gives wealth, in spite of love for it, to relatives, orphans, the needy, the traveler, those who ask [for help], and for freeing slaves; [and who] establishes prayer and gives zakah; [those who] fulfill their promise when they promise; and [those who] are patient in poverty and hardship and during battle. Those are the ones who have been true, and it is those who are the righteous."

 

n our time, we find it becoming more and more common for some people to misquote verses from the Quran, or narrations of the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him), in order to support their twisted presentation of Islam as a hostile and violent religion. The majority of these verses are either mistranslated, taken out of context, or misunderstood due to lack of basic knowledge. For example, Jihad is misunderstood by many people today as a "holy war", hence, whenever it is praised in the Quran, it is seen in a negative light. Jihad in reality is a positive concept, not a negative one, and for this reason, one must read about Jihad before reading the rest of this article. An explanation of Jihad can be read here. This article intends to clarify the misconception that Islam promotes violence and hatred by re-examining the misquoted verses and narrations. As we shall see, once understood properly, it becomes apparent that Islam teaches nothing but peace, harmony and tolerance for all humanity. We have selected and quoted the verses/narrations in the way that they are circulated by the Islam-haters, so that the poor translation and other deceptive tactics of the Islam-Haters may be exposed.

http://aboutjihad.com/terrorism/quran_misquote_part_1.php

 

the religion may not necessarily promote violence but the god doesn’t seem to mind dishing out pain on any one that doesn’t believe in it and follow it

 

Such a useful website for learning more about Islam!

Jazakallah

 

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O you who have believed, prescribed for you is legal retribution for those murdered - the free for the free, the slave for the slave, and the female for the female. But whoever overlooks from his brother anything, then there should be a suitable follow-up and payment to him with good conduct. This is an alleviation from your Lord and a mercy. But whoever transgresses after that will have a painful punishment.


this seems to say its ok to kill someone who is connected to a murderer im not sure i have that right though i hope not if im not getting it pleas someone let me know

 

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Sahih International
Mankind was [of] one religion [before their deviation]; then Allah sent the prophets as bringers of good tidings and warners and sent down with them the Scripture in truth to judge between the people concerning that in which they differed. And none differed over the Scripture except those who were given it - after the clear proofs came to them - out of jealous animosity among themselves. And Allah guided those who believed to the truth concerning that over which they had differed, by His permission. And Allah guides whom He wills to a straight path.

um that may not be true

 

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And do not marry polytheistic women until they believe. And a believing slave woman is better than a polytheist, even though she might please you. And do not marry polytheistic men [to your women] until they believe. And a believing slave is better than a polytheist, even though he might please you. Those invite [you] to the Fire, but Allah invites to Paradise and to forgiveness, by His permission. And He makes clear His verses to the people that perhaps they may remember.

Slavery seems to be ok choosing who women marry seems to be ok but believing in multiple gods makes the Allah burn you in hell forever nice

 

um are women aloud to divorce their husbands? 2: 227 - 2: 232 are about divorce but it seems to be about what men should do mostly

http://quran.com/2

 

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There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.

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Allah is the ally of those who believe. He brings them out from darknesses into the light. And those who disbelieve - their allies are Taghut. They take them out of the light into darknesses. Those are the companions of the Fire; they will abide eternally therein.


no compulsion in religion sounds good burring everyone who doesn’t believe seems kind of evil however

 

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Those who consume interest cannot stand [on the Day of Resurrection] except as one stands who is being beaten by Satan into insanity. That is because they say, "Trade is [just] like interest." But Allah has permitted trade and has forbidden interest. So whoever has received an admonition from his Lord and desists may have what is past, and his affair rests with Allah . But whoever returns to [dealing in interest or usury] - those are the companions of the Fire; they will abide eternally therein.


ok unjustly taking wealth is bad im not sure how unjust that is if both parties agree to it

but hurting people forever for it seems to be going to far

 

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And fear a Day when you will be returned to Allah . Then every soul will be compensated for what it earned, and they will not be treated unjustly.

kind of empty when Allah decides what’s just and what’s earned