Isn't declaring a national emergency the same as declaring martial law?

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  1. Violet_Crumble

    Violet_Crumble Well-Known Member

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    Wow!!He saves lives as well as spending most of his time tweeting, golfing and watching Fox & Friends? What cant the man who has the biggest, most beautiful brain ever not do??
     
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    Violet_Crumble Well-Known Member

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    Uh. Sure, buddy ;)

    On a more serious note, I find the partisan zealotry of labeling the political opposition as being evil monsters really simplistic and silly. Both sides do it and it's attitudes like that which have led to an authoritarian ex-reality star like Trump.
     
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    Indeed.
     
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    That’s exactly what you asked. Illegal immigration has been a crisis for decades. Reagan granted amnesty for 3,000,000 in exchange for a wall on the southern border. The Democrats dishonestly reneged and no wall was built.
     
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    Are you Jim Acosta ??

    Your post is high comedy.
     
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    Trump is acting to save lives of US citizens. The Democrats are not. That’s exactly what is happening. US citizens dying resulting from crimes committed by illegal aliens crossing the southern border is hardly silly. You should be ashamed to advocate against a wall. How would explain your position of why you oppose the wall to a group of angel Moms ??
     
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    Something tells me she cares more about illegal welfare moms than angel moms.
     
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    So your answer is that Trump is such a weakling that even though there's a massive huge crisis, he's deterred from declaring a national emergency for the past two years because he hasn't got the votes. Yet now that he still cant get the votes from Congress, he suddenly goes into authoritarian drama queen mode and declares an emergency to do a clumsy run around to try to get funding for something hes been told he cant have.
     
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    No. Are you Sarah Sanders? The lack of interest in reality seems to be on a par, though in her case she gets paid a lot for her spinning.

    I notice you seem to find just about everything bar Stephen Colbert funny and hilarious. Keep on laughing. Just try to get immersed in reality and fact while you're madly giggling away.
     
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    No hes not. Hes only interested in himself, and maybe Ivanka.

    Sorry, but your high octane and blindly partisan Trump worship is leading you down a path of silliness.

    How exactly is trumpelthinskin trying to save lives? By trying to build a wall that cant cover the entire border just so he can slap his Trump brand on it?

    A wall is stupid. Wheres the reports on how it will be effective and how much it will cost the US taxpayer since Mexico told Trump they werent paying for it? Why does the amount required keep on going up by billions of dollars? Why is it that trumps devotees see border security as only a wall and ignore all ports of entry?

    Psst. Illegal immigrants commit crimes at a far lower rate than US citizens. And who made up the name Angel mom? Can the mothers of children murdered by US citizens in school massacres be an angel mom? I only ask because some conservatives have harrassed and abused families and survivors, so that while caring about US lives only matters when it suits some conservatives
     
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    Apart from generally caring more about fellow non-US citizens than US citizens, I dont think I care all that much about either latino welfare mom or angel mom.
     
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    My answer is that Trump is acting to save the lives of US citizens. The Democrats refuse to save the lives of US citizens.
     
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    The wall will save the lives of US citizens. There is no data in the history of the world that indicates the opposite.
     
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    The reality is that the wall will save the lives of US citizens. Statements to the contrary are hilarious.
     
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    You care more for non US citizens ?? Why is that ?? You don’t care about the angel Mom’s who have lost sons and daughters to illegal alien murderers ?? That’s disgusting.
     
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    Before you decided you had to give answering my question a go, did it cross your mind to read it through slowly until you comprehended it? Because your 'answer' does not address what I asked. Why didnt Trump try to get his wall during the past two years if there was such a crisis?
     
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    I've explained that in exact and precise terms. You question is irrelevant.
     
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    Is this rhetorical or do you really not know why?
     
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    I'm not so ambitious as to want or have time to read all the data in the history of the world. I'm very impressed that you have, though.
     
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    I was hoping someone would give it a go explaining why. I think I know why but I wanted to see what conservatives think the reason is.
     
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    No you didn't. You said he didnt have enough votes. He doesn't have the votes now, so what's caused all the hysteria and drama?
     
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    I'm not an American. Why should I care more for US citizens than anyone else?

    And knock off the manufactured outrage. It's so fake repetitive and dull. I feel terrible for any parent who's lost their child to a murderer. So why do you only care based on who their children are murdered by?
     
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    No, not Bush. I was referring to the GOP who had their chance to fund the wall even under Trump, but refused to even try.
     
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    A wall was not a condition, and even if it was, GOP has controlled the purse vast majority of the time since then. Your problem is your partisan attitude, which is what Trump also suffers from. It guarantees continued problems and fingerprinting as opposed to solutions.
     
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    That "saving lives" excuse will be used for any money grabbing national emergencies in the future to grab guns, enact universal healthcare, climate change taxes, and whatever else comes to their minds. You can always argue you are trying to save lives to support your agenda. Unfortunately the weak minded will believe it and repeat it.
     

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