Israel enlists US Homeland Security to gag its own citizens online

There is nothing in the article that could be even mistaken as proof of the "Israel authorities persuaded the US Homeland Security to start closing down websites" allegation. The e-mail is not a request to close down sites, but to preserve their content for 90 days. We're not told how such an e-mail found its way to the site. We're also not told that the "Pursuant to 18 USC 2703" means that an American court gave the order to preserve the information. The author of the article would have us believe that Israel give orders to both American courts and the US Homeland security. Anti-semites have too high an opinion of Jews, really.

 

Never said there was. I was replying to a known falsifier,

Your opinion of Jews does not interest me.

 

To claim reporters without borders is a fanatically anti-Israeli organisation and bla bla....
oh how low can you sink.... lol

 

How is it free when the army has a habit of being abusive?

You never said the army is abusive,... please put words in your mouth to not look so dishonest as you previously was.

Of course you are. You won't even quote a source in a host way. lol

 

List of Newspapers in Israel (go find out and broaden your outlook)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_newspapers_in_Israel

 

So according to you there is no media in the West Bank that broadcast from it to the Arabs?

The IDF army doesnt have a "habit of being abusive", but they have a habit of maintaining a fabric of normal life between Arabs and Jews while stopping people that want to harm the other population and want to impair or interfere the acts of the IDF that it's goal is, as I stated, to maintain a fabric of normal life between Arabs and Jews.

I 'was hinest, and will continue to e honest.

I already qouted your source couple of times when it states that the press in Israel enjoy a real freedom.

 

WTF you on about? It is:
According to my source the press freedom in Israel is terrible.

It is towards the press who record all the crimes the Jew is making against the Arabs.

Since you left out why Israel is ranked so poor, no you weren't.

I already told you that it's about the part you ignore

 

Your source is "Reporters Without Borders". According to them the press in Israel enjoys a real freedom, as they states:


It is towards the press who record all the crimes the Jew is making against the Arabs.

So according to you to errest a man or a woman that inteligence suggest that they link to terror is a crime, like the French police did not long ago when terror attacks hit their country? Or maybe when the IDF does checkpoints in areas where there is inteligence that a terror mamber will come through specific road, like the police is doing all over the world when they need cetch people that break the law?

I already responded to the part that you provided. Plase re-read it.

 

It also says that the Jew army abuses the press.
Hence it's ranked really low.

It's undeniable.

What according to me?
It's according to the reporters without boundaries.
/facepalm

 

First of all the IDF is not a Jewish army, but it is an Israeli army. In the IDF there is also Arabs, Muslims and Christians and not only Jews.
Secondly, what the site says after is not contradicting that the Israeli press enjoys a real freedom. Something that you are continue to urge that is quite the opposite, while your source does not agree with you.

If so, then Belgium, Frence, Germany, Australia, UK, US, Hungary, Italy etc. must be ranked in the area of Israel because they arrest people, according to inteligence that suggests that those people is linked to terror acts, inside residential houses as well. There are also Norway that is deporting Arabs from Norway to their origin states, and thus must be ranked in the area of Israel, since it is so disrupting the freedom of press in the countries.

 

Its the army of the Jew homeland -> Jew army.

You're just leaving something out that gives Israel a real low ranking.

This is about abusing people.

 

In Germany there is an Army, and Germany is a Christian homeland. Does it's army is the German army or the Chrsitian army?

I'm not leaving anything out. It is a fact that the press in Israel enjoys a real freedom, like your source says.

According to you errasting people that are linked to terrorism is abusing, and Germany, Frence, Belgium, Australia, UK, US Italy etc are errasting people that are linked to terrorism like Israel, but still they are in much higher standings without celculating this "abuses" (as you referring to it) in their score. If because the errasts Israel is ranked in 101 place, then all the rest of the countries that also errast people that are linked to terrorism need to be in the area of 101 place.

 

Israel claims to be the Jew homeland. Germany doesn't pretend to be the Christian homeland or the Arian race homeland, now do they?

You're leaving out that the Jew army abuses the press.

That the Jew army abuses the press in Israel, is what reporters without borders say about that country and not about Germany, France etc. Deal with it, instead of pathetically denying it without anything to back it up.

 

So Germany is not a Christian country? There is no majority of Christians in this country?

The "Palestinian" journalists are often provoking the soldiers so they will get their shot. For instance, Israeli and "Palestinain" journalists singed an agreement between them that they will establish a hotline when journalistst in the West Bank encounter problems in their work so the problem will befixed, when often the "Palestinian" journalists in the West Bank dont really use it and prefer to stay and to confront the soldiers, which in the soldiers eyes is an interaption to their work. Even though that confronting soldiers is not their work, but their work is to film situations and report them. That's it.

According to the Reporters Without Borders, the press in Israel enjoys real freedom, as you can read in my coment number #33.

 

I asked you a question in my previous post about this. Please respond.

Source it or it just aint true.

According to my source they abuse the press hence it's a hideous country, and so is ranked as such.

 

I did. You are saying that Germany is not a Christian state, so in Germany there is no Christian majority?

Well if you insist. A man osed as a journalist and stabbed a soldier:

Source: http://news.sky.com/story/1570741/man-posing-as-journalist-stabs-israeli-soldier

[video=youtube;oWDZ2PgD870]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWDZ2PgD870[/video]

According to your source:


Which means, as you can read, the press in Israel enjoys a real freedom, and which is in contradiction to what you say that the press in Israel get abused/

 

I asked you 1st if Germany pretends to be the Christian homeland or the Arian race homeland.
Now what is your answer to that?

That's not a journalist, that's a man pretending to be one according to your source.

I read in that picture of yours the Jew army abuses reporters and that it is common.
Want to try and post it again, and see if it's still mentioned there?

 

Your chart is for last year where Israel was just on the border between free and partially free, holding on with nothing to lose or she would go over to partly free. Unfortunately she did lose another two points and so this year as notme says finds her self in the partially free group behind Italy with 32 points.

https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-press-2016/table-country-scores-fotp-2016
Briefly the reason for her decline is

https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-press/freedom-press-2016




This is the full details for the area which has pulled Israel down to partially free

Her global ranking is now 65.


https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-press/2016/israel

She isn't though the only country identified as 'the west' who is losing the ability to provide an honest account to her people. Obviously Italy and of course Greece are already partially free but the UK at 25 and France at 28 do not have far to go till they join her. Thinking with France it might be due to the terror attacks, Belgium does incredibly well, safely free at 11.

 

And I answered you taht Germany is not pretends to be the homelands of whole of the Christians, because Germany is not the only country that the Christians have, but Germany is indeed a Christian country.

Right, and that action, among others, are hurting the press eventually.

So if you read what I provided, then you also read what I circled for you in red circle and which it states "The Israeli press enjoys real freedom".

 

Partial freedom according to Freedom House 2016

 

Yes I know, since I thought that this kind of reports are published in the end of each year.

So because of this newspaper is been offered to the people without payment is undengared the stability of the other newspaper? So if a new clothing store will open and will offer clothes to the public which the money that the people will need to spend will be lower then other clothing stores, does it means that this new store undengered the stability of the other stores? I mean how come it is the fault of the new player on the market when the rest of the players cant handle and dont know how to maintain their financial strength in the public? The rest of the newspapers are still availble and people read them daily, for instance, I read and have subscribed to Yedioth Ahronoth for years now even though the erruption of Israel Hayom- like there are alot of people that still read Haaretz, Maariv and so on and so on.

Israel Hayom also existed last year, but still it didnt hurt the ranking of Israel when it ranked with additional two points from this year report. What changed?

 

As the above quote says

https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-press/2016/israel

If this was included Israel's score would be significantly worse. It shares these poor scores with these areas

https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-press/2016/west-bank-and-gaza-strip

 

According to notme source, Reports Without Borders, wrote about Israel that the Israeli press enjoys real freedom, even tought that it ranked in their report in the area of the "partly-free countries".

 

The report you presented here regarding the West Bank and Gaza relating to the PA and their actions against journalists, while Israel is mentioned there when it stated that Israel continue to hold "Palestinian" journalists in administrative detention, and that is because there is inteligence from the Shin Bet that they are linked to terrorist groups.

 

There is a big difference between being involved in capitalism and trying to bring people fair and honest reporting. I have read before about this paper and as the report says it is basically a Netanyahu ad paper - that is it is presenting things from a big bias. We of course have papers like this in the UK like the Mail which have no interest in whether what they say is true or not they just are involved in creating opinions among their leaders. The free paper can be seen as doing just that. To use your analogy if a new store comes and encourages everyone in with lower prices, then likely the others will go out of business. When that is not cloths but a biased account of politics, the situation may indeed be the same, the others may indeed go out of business but that results in the people being conditioned to believe that the presented picture is the truth. Only by hearing different views can you have freedom of the Press. The inability for the opposition to express their view is fundamental to lack of free speech.


The influence of the free paper is one but only one of the reasons given for Israel being only partially free. You liked Freedom House when you thought it was saying Israel was 'free' even if she was only clinging on, but now change your mind because she does not say what you want.

As a person living in Israel that report is primarily about your needs. It is primarily about what is going on in Israel. I would have thought you would be interested in being able to get unbiased information.

It is when you look at Israel's impact on free reporting from the West Bank and Gaza you will see this where her main problems concerning freedom of the press lie. As a citizen of Israel this also should concern you because only with the genuine picture are you able to come to educated decisions.