Israel intensifies Gaza attacks

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  1. Colonel K

    Colonel K Well-Known Member

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    When they extend the "buffer zone" INSIDE a 30 by five mile long ghetto to two miles wide, razing buildings as they go, then that's what you are complicit with.
     
  2. Tahuyaman

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    One can maintain their ideology, but if they are completely defeated militarily, it remains just that.... a mind-set.
     
  3. Jonsa

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    The only thing pathetic is your feeble attempt to equate what is happening in Gaza to the fire bombing of Dresden.
    If there was a condition of all out war between Hamas and Israel, by this time Gaza would no longer exist.

    And with that kind of argument, its clear you are not well versed in propaganda.
     
  4. Capitalism

    Capitalism Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You mean heavy left cities in America? Yeah we know what liberals are capable of here. Any other questions?
     
  5. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Shoot no rockets out of (*)(*)(*)(*)ing self-designated ghetto, and buffer zone need not be. Simple, really.
     
  6. northwinds

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    How is it different.......the civilians in Dresden had no where to go and were being indiscriminately bombed.......the civilians in Gaza have now where to go and are being indiscriminately bombed..........I know, I know......the Israelis really didn't try to hit the hospital, the school, the kids on the beach, the Elk's club, etc.......its just that bombing is an imperfect science leaving a 1000+ civilians dead.......they were really trying to hit the Hamas Naval Base...........just like the Allies were trying to hit all of those 'military' targets in Dresden.......
     
  7. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The allies were not trying to hit military targets in Dresden.
    They used incindiary bombs in a massive raid that had every intention of destroying the city and killing as many civilians as possible in an effort to break the will of the german people.

    Now, you and yours are constantly whinging about the fact that civilians have no where to go because as we are frequently reminded gaza is one of the more densely populate regions on the planet. So perhaps you can explain why ONLY 1,000+ palestinans have been killed a two weeks of combat and bombing, if Israel's intention was to kill civilians. Surely the IDF isn't that incompetent. in fact, I do not recall an enemy dropping leaflets and making robocalls to tell people in target areas to get outta dodge.

    Of course Hamas wants the civilians to stay where they are so they can get blown up in a partially successful attempt to garner sympathy from the international community.
     
  8. northwinds

    northwinds Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep, the IDF drops leaflets and gives last second 'robocalls' just before killing these people who have no where else to go......so BiBi can go on "Meet the Press" the next Sunday and say "we dropped leaflets and gave robocalls.....why didn't they go down the street to the Elk's Club...they are just using their children as shields and propaganda"..........and Joe Six Pack will go 'yeah, they are using their children as human shields and the Jews are Gods chosen people....they are doing God's work". And the IDF seems to be totally incompetent in killing soldiers (I think we call them 'militants' or 'terrorists') whereas the Palestinians seem to be hitting about an 80% soldier kill rate versus civilian casualties.......see how that works. Now, tell me, who are the 'terrorists'.
     
  9. k995

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    Do you know how to read? "Oh kill every hamas member "
     
  10. k995

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    Destroy them without leveling entire blocks of course.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...Gaza-conflict-The-Strip-before-and-after.html

    This is imply madness in such a dense area and will always kill civilians but israel seems to take little care (besides to obvious PR they spew around that they try to take every precaution)
     
  11. k995

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    You are no better then someone from hamas who says the same about jews.

    You cant kill hundred of thousands of civilians who have nothing to do with this conflict besides have the bad luck to be born there.

    Such hate is whats been fueling this conflict for generations.
     
  12. k995

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    Actually I dont care .

    The problem here is israel likes to minimize the casulties IDF takes and that results in a high toll in palestinian civilian deaths.

    But lets not forget your example if incorrect. Its not "a palestinain car speeding towards a check point", this is "the IDF in a car speeding trough gaza killing everything that gets near out of fear of being attacked" killing hundeds of civilians in the process .

    The IDF should have far more strict rules of engagement from its gouvernement .


    More BS , there is no bombardment by rockets. About 3 civilians on average get killed a year by these rockets if IDF isnt directly attacking gaza. Thats about 1/100th the car fatalities israel has. IDF shoud better be targeting cars if they want to save lives .

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    "self-designated ghetto" as if israel hasnt gor gaza in a blockade?
     
  13. Professor Peabody

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    A smoke trail from a long-range rocket lingers near Gaza City. Members of Congress have asked the United Nations to eliminate the stockpile of rockets held by the military wing of Hamas in the Gaza Strip.

    http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/07/25/what-would-happen-if-hamas-lost-all-of-its-rockets

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    Islamic Jihad claimed its militants fired a Fajr 5 which crashed into the sea off Tel Aviv on Thursday.

    Israel frequently reports the steady barrage of rocket fire it has had to endure, totaling 11,000 since it withdrew from Gaza in 2005, according to the Israeli Defense Forces.

    http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/11/17/250199.html

    They need to STOP firing rockets at their neighbors if anyone is to take them seriously.
     
  14. k995

    k995 Well-Known Member

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    Israel mounted around 10 large scale operations during those years and has held a blockade in place, it has every right to defend itself but not at the cost of thousands of palestinians lives.
    There never will be peace if both sides dont start realising they are dead wrong in the way they handle this conflict .
     
  15. Dutch

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    That's not a blockade, it's called a border, which daily crossed by tens of thousands of Palestinians, into Israel and back. Every country (except United States) defends and protects and regulates it's borders. Is Gaza a country with borders, or is it a (*)(*)(*)(*)-hole that needs to be blockaded and defended from? Forget I asked.
     
  16. Hoosier8

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    Yeah, who in their right mind would want to stop the rockets from entering Gaza eh? The blockade does not apply to certain fundamental needs to Gaza. If Palestinians cared about their own lives, they would stop Hamas.
     
  17. Mac-7

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    There was definitely a rocket war being waged from gaza by the Arabs that provoked the Israeli military response.

    And now this guy wants to deny that the rocket attacks ever happened.
     
  18. k995

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    No its a blockade, israel patrols the gaza waters and airways not just the land borders.

    Its check everything to comes in and goes and and everything it doenst like get seized.

    Thats called a blockade. Perhaps inform yourself a bit?
     
  19. k995

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    Did you forget that before hamas israel was still having settlements in gaza together with a permanent presence of thousands of soldiers occupying gaza?

    Or are you forgetting this is what they still do daily in west bank? If israel wants peace they have to stop taking land from palestinians, start building the palestinian economy and stop giving excuses to terrorist like hamas by retaliating every time a palestinians farts in the direction of israel.
     
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    Murder inc. Women , children, who cares, helps keep the population down , Right ? Innocent civilians do not count, bomb the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of the U,N shelters, lets include some hospitals and Mosques as well. We are Zionist terrorist legalized by the American and French systems that put us in place.

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    Murder inc. Women , children, who cares, helps keep the population down , Right ? Innocent civilians do not count, bomb the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of the U,N shelters, lets include some hospitals and Mosques as well. We are Zionist terrorist legalized by the American and French systems that put us in place.

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    Murder inc. Women , children, who cares, helps keep the population down , Right ? Innocent civilians do not count, bomb the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of the U,N shelters, lets include some hospitals and Mosques as well. We are Zionist terrorist legalized by the American and French systems that put us in place.
     
  21. k995

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    Wrong again, reading that hard for you?


    Just you using the word bombardment to try and pretend the whole of israel is cowering hourly in shelters afraid of the constant barage of deadly missiles coming from gaza-BS .

    "Bombardment" : " it has come to mean any mass attack delivered by artillery or short-range tactical missiles, and later, aerial bombardment delivered by aircraft or long-range missiles."

    The only mass attacks occured when israel mounted another action into gaza .

    Take 2013 around 70 rockets/mortars fired during that entire year most of them not by hamas. While IDF poured about the same amount of fire into gaza . Where is the " mass attack " from the "palestinians bombardments"?
     
  22. Hoosier8

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    Did you forget that Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005 and the only result was a dramatic increase in rockets from Gaza? Palestinians need to build the Palestinian economy and the only way they are going to do that is if they stop Hamas trying to start a war.
     
  23. Hoosier8

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    So the 1500% increase from 2013 to 2014 should just be ignored eh?
     
  24. Dutch

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    Israel also supplies electricity, water and what have you to Gaza; top Gazan dogs treat their families in Israeli hospitals. It's a strange relationship, I'l give you that. As for patrolling waters, imaging size of the rockets Iran could have been bringing into Gaza if not for Israeli vigilance?
     
  25. Goodoledays

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    :alcoholic:You need to open your eyes dude. If Israel doesn't kill these civilians the Hamas will. They are terrorists and don't care for them. They just use them as human shields. Wake up.
     

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