It's a long way to a vote about our gun control

They should just let them use guns, supervised obviously, and after they've completed some course to learn how to use them responsibly. Don't just send kids out with "knives, dogs and bows and arrows", this isn't Lord of the Flies. Could get a roaring tourist trade out of it even, city kids and their parents going off into the country during the holidays as part of a small hunting group.

 

I was a good shot at 10 with a 22 rifle.

The worst thing you can do is not teach kids anything about guns or gun safety. That is why you kids killing other kids "accidentally".

 

Not if they don't have guns in the first place.

Bow and arrows are still bloody dangerous though. I suppose people forget that we've been using those to kill each other very effectively long before guns were invented.

 

Guns are just as easy to ban as drugs so if you don't teach your kids about guns and gun safety, then you only have yourself to blame is something happens.

 

No ones suggesting banning guns altogether. But no, you don't need to give kids access to guns. Just like you don't need to give kids access to a car before they turn 16 and get a learners permit. When they are an appropriate age, then they can learn how to use them from trained professionals, and before that they shouldn't be using them at all.

 

We were taught to use firearms safely Ziggy. We were fully aware of the importance of safety, before we were allowed to go out unsupervised. That`s why we had no firearms accidents. You can`t wrap kids in cotton wool, and lock them in their rooms all their lives, and expect them to grow into anything worthwhile.

 

Gun control is simply a way for Governments to “dis-arm” a population and turn them into compliant sheep.

Gun control in Australia certainly helped with the latest shooting murders in Tasmania.

If an individual is intent on killing someone else, they will find any means possible, regardless of a gun being available.

Time for do-gooder to stop acting like a bunch of dumbarses, and start looking into all the facts surrounding gun control, and whether gun control in Australia has really stopped or decreased killing and murders.

 

One suggests you look up "nation master" and firearm homicide = there is the USA near the top then scroll waaaaaaaaaay down to find Australia

I am NOT going back to 13 mass shootings in 18 years (the average pre gun buy back) just because someone finds the laws a wee bit too restrictive for diadems

 

Only Bowerbird, could take an article that is directed at dogs, bows and arrows, and knives and turn it into a gun debate. Congrats on sinking to a new low.
I like that tone"impose on children" hunting ethics. How does one impose that kind of thing on children? They either want to or not. If they are given the opportunity and decide for themselves, does that mean they are going to magically turn into mass murders with bows and arrows?
Sweet Jesus, you guys are freakin' daft! Next thing y'all will be spouting is that reading Atlas Shrugged will lead them to the Dark Side of the Force.................silly people
Really? Air guns are licensed? Is that for real???Does every Aussie need to get permission to wipe their butts? A truly socialist country....indeed
You truly do desire to remain subjects................

 

Congratulations! You have really nailed the Australian do-gooders psyche. The majority don’t have the intellect to see beyond the square, even if the square had windows on every side.

The only method these morons can advocate that the gun buy scheme has been successful is Australia, is that there has been no mass murders using guns. LOL

Therefore, single victims being shot by a gun are obviously not taken into consideration or calculations as to whether the crime rate in Australia has been reduced due to the gun buy back scheme. LMFAO

Well, the gun buy back scheme in Australia certainly didn’t help stop this latest murder involving a gun.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/latest/15646846/police-at-scene-of-double-murder-in-tasmania/

The intelligent point has always been; that if someone is mentally ill or just “snaps” and is intent on killing another individual, they will find anything at their disposal to fulfil their task.

Governments have always known the best way to turn their citizens into compliant passive “sheep” is to completely disarm them from any form of autonomous power and control.

Here in Australia the sly Government used a mentally ill individual Martin Bryant to implement their strategy to disarm the Nation, and it worked an absolute treat. Thanks to the screaming pandering do-gooders, because of one incident, found they had a hair across their arses, and didn’t take everything into consideration as per usual.

 

You show ambition to be a Citizen congratulations..here, slap 'em in the face with this

and the subjects howl and thump their chests, ineffectually
here's a note to the subjects about their version of reducing crime by elimnating guns:

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847

"It is a common fantasy that gun bans make society safer. In 2002 -- five years after enacting its gun ban -- the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner.

 

I understand completely, but the do-gooders don’t have the intellect to connect the dots that reducing crime doesn’t have anything to do with gun control, or taking guns away from people. The mentality of the do-gooder is that they see mentally ill individuals mass murdering with guns, but blaming the inanimate object of the gun as the cause of death, and not the individuals state of mental health.

Its not the inanimate object that does the killing, it’s the individual holding the weapon, but these silly over-re-actionists do-gooders don’t comprehend that.

Do-gooders never think that politicians use scary drastic situations to enforce what they want onto the people.

 

All the new gun laws have done, has been to boost the vaibility of the black market gun trade. An illegal hand gun is now twice the price it was before Howard`s hysteria, but they`re also much more available.

 

And research has proven this does sod all to lower firearm injury rate

There is a reason we do not let 10 year olds drive cars

 

So over 40% of our firearm incidents are in the black community. Do you suggest we pass laws controlling them?

 

No, they are not - not available to children and natters.

Before 1996 we had 13 mass shootings in 18 years - since then ! mass shooting - Monash University and HE was disarmed by an unarmed bystander

 

So you are saying that not teaching kids firearm safety won't make a difference? Link?

 

All this proves is that firearms incidents were going down anyway, just like they have been here without the extra laws. Wonder if it is the water or global warming?

 

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/105/4/888.full

Oooh! Gee! American Academy of Paediatrics - think they might know a thing or two about the subject??
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2012/10/15/peds.2012-2481.full.pdf

 

as usual, your data is sadly outdated and unusable in this debate, but go ahead and bray with it. Here's something a bit more current than 2003.

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847

"It is a common fantasy that gun bans make society safer. In 2002 -- five years after enacting its gun ban -- the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner.

 

It is a fantasy that gun bans make society safer. I don`t believe that anti gunners are concerned with safety, because they show a complete disregard for more pressing safety concerns. For instance, the death rate, and serious injury rate suffered by children in push bike accidents. To allow a child, with next to no understanding of road craft, to go onto the streets on a death trap like a push bike, with no protection, moving at a "sitting duck" speed in comparison to the other traffic, is completely brain dead.

 

Just make it illegal to say the word "black."

Tooooo easy!

 

Did a paper for poli sci 2 semesters ago. Cell phone/texting while driving related deaths in America has doubled in the past 4 years for teens.
14,000 deaths attributed to this phenom last year which puts it first place this year. Ages: between 16 and 45 as the common age group. You can't really believe that since they cannot equate danger with anything else but guns, that this is so obviuosly overlooked by the libs and media? Why ......why..... but ...but... I need my phone..can't live without it. don't care if I wipe an entire family out because I was texting my bff.....while driving.

 

We have the same problem. As a long time motor bike rider, the importance of 100% continuos, 100% attention to the road, traffic, and surroundings, isn`t lost on me. Regretably, I constantly see young kids (who can`t drive anyway), not paying attention to their driving. This is a BIG killer.

 

Yes use of mobile phones while driving IS a big factor but we also have a law against that - and as someone pointed out since every mobile phone announces it's location it would be simplicity itself to actually put in place a tracker that shows if the mobile is travelling at more than X MPH while being used - all you would need to do then is tie that to ANY accidents - any at all even dents and the person using the mobile phone is liable..........

But please whatever you do do NOT listen to Americans touting incorrect information from one of the right wing "think tanks" (though THAT term is a misnomer). It is amazing how many of those actually have what were once anonymous emails but are now polished like ........ and pasted up on the net as some sort of "research". It usually is neither research nor factual