It's obvious Abortion is wrong

Okay let me quote it for you:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxiv


This directly reads that persons born or naturalized in the US are equivalent to citizens.

The constitution doesn't comment much on how to treat non-citizens. All of this is sort of irrelevant anyway though, since the constitution doesn't determine right and wrong, and fetuses are normally aborted before they become persons by any stretch of the imagination through having even a rudimentary mind.

 

Oh really? Then why is abortion such a hot topic? Any fool should be able to see the abortion issue has not been resolved in any way.

 

Then you would be that fool.

The next time you are pregnant you can choose to carry the fetus to term, or not. Your choice.

Isn't America great?

 

I value all human life including the Fetus, the female and the "vigilante". I place an infinitesimal quantity of value on the life of a random Fetus, less value on the life of random females and sometimes more value or less value on the lives of "vigilantes" when compared to the random person who agrees with me.

I value the lives of every reader of this thread more than the random person or the random Fetus. I do not worship even the "vigilante" with similar moral values to me. I am glad there are people who will enforce justice when U.S. laws are inadequate, like you describe accurately above.

Roe v. Wade was a dishonorable but effective way to legally limit black population expansion during the 20th century. Roe v. Wade will remain an honorable way to mitigate the libertarian population expansion while allowing even "conservative" white females to feel more in control of their own bodies. "Conservative" white females will promote the "ethics of choice" for black and liberal white women to continue killing their own offspring and start using surgical and medicated abortion of gestation as simply birth control. "Conservative" white females will soon promote abortaficients as birth control due to costing much less and affecting them less biologically.

Luke 23:29 --For the time will come when you will say, 'Blessed are the childless women, the wombs that never bore and the breasts that never nursed!'


this . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . time . . . . . . . . . . . . . . HAS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . come

What God will you serve? - ~~ Joshua 24:15

 

Legal abortion is not murder. End of story.

Do learn what pro CHOICE means.

Look up anti choice in the dictionary.

 

You need to learn English and what the expression "any fool..." means. I'll educate you: with respect to "Any fool should be able to see the abortion issue has not been resolved in any way", it means everybody (even a fool) should be able to see that the abortion issue has not been resolved, and if you cannot see the issue is not resolved then you are lower than a fool.

America used to be great, but now so many people don't even have a basic understanding of the English language (assuming they can actually read) that its fallen on hard times.

 

Maybe on your planet, but not on mine, which is Earth.

So? We are talking about NOW.

 

It is again painfully obvious that you are incapable of answering any questions asked of you preferring instead to sideline into something that bares no resemblance to the actual debate. The reason this is such a "Hot Topic" and never seems to end would be that people like you keep doing what you are and avoid facing the important questions.

Thus does what should be a very easy topic never get beyond the beginning of discussion.

 

Abortion has been resolved for the majority of We the People (56%) who agree with the Law of the Land that it should be legal.

It is only the vocal minority (41%) who have a problem with abortion being legal.

http://www.pewresearch.org/data-trend/domestic-issues/abortion/

 

Very misleading.

If you looked at the data in your link, you would see that 24% want abortion legal in all situations, 16% want it illegal in all cases. A huge majority of 76% want some degree of limitation on abortion. People oppose the use of abortion as a means of convenient birth control, but people also understand that there are times when abortion is a valid option (life of the mother, rape, severe birth defect) but they are uncomfortable having the govt make laws regarding abortion.

The Pew poll validates my claim that abortion is unresolved.

 

Avoided questions? I have directly addressed this issue for years on this forum, explaining my position clearly. What I no longer do is waste time entertaining questions from certain people who have shown themselves to be abortionist zealots who very quickly resort to non-arguments such as "its the law, live with it", "if you don't like abortion then don't have one", and insults.

There is only one question: is the preborn a person or not? I have several times in this thread explained my position. While mainly one person has decided to present their argument which I rejected, nobody, including you, has even attempted to address my argument.

If you want to actually discuss (based on your posts, I doubt it) then that's fine, but don't expect me to waste time playing your childrens games.

 

Actually it does exactly the opposite.

Only 16% want to make abortion illegal which means that 84% agree that abortion should be legal albeit with some or other restrictions.

That 16% just want to impose their own theist agenda on We the People in violation of the Constitution.

 

I think you will agree that I am very much opposed to abortion. But I am not in that 16% who want all abortion illegal, I am in that 84%, mixed in with all the other people who see some reason for not totally banning abortion. That right there puts a nail in your arguments coffin.

 

Ya, some don't even know that RvW resolved the abortion issue....

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You avoided this question: Why do you think a fetus should have more rights than anyone else?


You have NOT EVER addressed the fact that whether a fetus is deemed a person or NOT makes no difference to the abortion issue which has been resolved with RvW

 

Perhaps a slightly different tactic will force an answer.

The reason is.....To do so would instantly rescind the rights and freedoms of half the population to control their own bodies.

 

Since your response is based upon a strawman your conclusion is null and void.

 

You cannot "force" an answer. This is a free, voluntary, anonymous forum, there is absolutely nothing you can do to force an answer. As most people here do, I answer whatever posts I choose to answer, and ignore posts I choose to ignore.

You provide further proof that the abortion issue is not resolved - that 84% who oppose a total ban on abortion includes people as anti-abortion as I am all the way to the other end of the spectrum to pro-abortion people who have your view. That's why statistics can be misused to mislead.

 

LOL, the "straw man" excuse, the standard exit for those with no way out of a corner.

 

Your posting a strawman is not my problem.

 

No, your problem is that you are stuck and have no argument but just cannot admit it.

 

I don't need an argument since I agree with We the People and the Law of the Land that abortion is legal and women's reproductive rights are safe from those who want to violate the Constitution.

The onus is entirely on you and your ilk to come up with valid arguments why more than 50% of We the People should lose their rights in order to further your theist agenda.

 

I wish men like Dr. Tiller were imprisoned for life by the State instead of relying on "vigilantes" to kill. I value every abortionist's life negatively. Every professional abortionist lowers the sum total dignity of life for humanity. I value these killers just like the one who authorized extermination of Jews during WWII.

RvW was clearly done to encourage black women and black men to kill more of their offspring so the process of natural selection would remain distorted enough to keep the dominant black genes in check while allowing the professional contact sport gaming industries to develop.

Conservative women do not have professional abortions of gestation. Women cease being conservative shortly before any professional abortion of gestation and very often try to revert to being known as a conservative woman and will continue professing to have otherwise conservative values.
Many will profess to have been deceived. God can forgive anyone, but humans can only try.

I am sorry for many wrongs I have done in the past. My life is both miserable and a blessing. My delusion (from your perspective) is the absolute truth as experienced by my mind while in a coma for over six weeks. God exists and allowed Jesus to sacrifice His life. I/We may accept this sacrificial gift and be vicariously atoned or we may reject this over and over. I pray Lucifer accepts the sacrificial death of Jesus eventually. God can forgive anyone, but humans can only try.

This is the story (mostly) left in the Bible and I am sticking to it. This reason was explained far greater to me during my coma although there are not better words to explain loving someone unconditionally despite being disgusted with what they do and demanding justice.

 

A load of psychopathic nonsense...too extreme to worry about........you did say you suffered brain damage , didn't you?

 

Ironic, given your low level and abuse of the English language

eg. Calling a fetus a "baby"
Calling abortion murder
calling pro-choice people abortionists

Quite hypocritical really . .though I know that being the coward you are you won't even respond.