It's obvious Abortion is wrong

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  1. MrNick

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    The fallacy of your OP is that you attempted to use it to justify killing persons who have been "naturally born".

    So no, I did not make that "argument" because it is utterly absurd.
     
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    It should not matter to the women then if you are correct.

    Why do so many women suffer? Why do they believe they killed their own child?
     
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    Man, there have been premature babies who have survived that were 20 weeks - woman can and do have abortions at 20 weeks.
     
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    Sorry, your mangled "analogy" doesn't work. I believe "murder" is the illegal taking of another person's life.....doesn't compare to abortion.
     
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    I don't know if you would.

    But it may be a lesser charge since the woman did not give her consent for you to kill her fetus. You certainly would be charged with assault on the woman.

    Interesting note: so many Anti-Choice men bring this scenario up..."if I punch/kick a woman in the stomach...""":hmm:
     
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    Oh I see so it's only murder if you want the child....

    So you admit that abortion is indeed murder...

    BTW there have been MANY people charged with murder for killing the "fetus" (baby) via violence.

    Hell, a couple years back a pro football player that lives not to far from me had a crazy mistress who shot his wife, killed her and the baby - you know what? she was charged with the murder of the mother AND the baby.....

    You see ITS MURDER.
     
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    So why aren't women who have abortions being arrested and charged with murder???

    No, I didn't ever say abortion is murder....shooting a woman is not an abortion....did you think it was??


    You won't understand because it has to do with women giving, or not giving, consent, women with that power....:)



    You don't want anyone but YOU to respond to me ??!!:roflol: :nana:
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_Gayle

    See - it's (*)(*)(*)(*)ing murder and there isn't a damn thing you can say to change that.......
     
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    You obviously didn't read my post very well, because nowhere did I say people have the right to kill. Why does the mother have a moral obligation to take care of her child? Does she no longer have a choice?
     
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    The difference is... That person attacked and killed someone which in turn killed the fetus. There is no type of consent there. You consent to an abortion. I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure there has never been a case of someone being attacked purely to force an abortion upon them.
     
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    Why would I want to. Murder was committed...an abortion wasn't.

    So why aren't women who have abortions being arrested and charged with murder???

    No, I didn't ever say abortion is murder....shooting a woman is not an abortion....did you think it was??


    You won't understand because it has to do with women giving, or not giving, consent, women with that power....



    You don't want anyone but YOU to respond to me ??!! Oooops......
     
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    We abort adult criminals all the time, what's the difference? It's still a life.

    "Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord."
    - Romans 12:19, King James Bible
     
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    That's right...because YOU don't have dominion over her body...SHE does. That's why there's no such thing as forced abortion. Its up to that particular pregnant woman to decide whether or not she wants her body to be used as a host organism.

    Clueless...

    Your opinion is irrelevant. You can rant, rave and howl at the moon...no one cares.
     
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    Its because they loathe women and can't stand that women have choices but they can't beat them up.

    Ultimately, its all about the population men that can't stand their lack of control over women. They firmly believe that they should be able to tell women what to do.
     
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    Only if all who voted to ban abortion had to go through a pregnancy and labour simulator every time a woman who wanted to abort was prevented from doing so legally.

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    I don't give a fat rat's arse if it is a baybee, if it's in my body and I don't want it there, it's being removed.
     
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    Why the need to throw insults?


    I've seen them. They don't sway me one iota. Do pictures of women who died from self induced or illegal abortions sway you?
     
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    Here's a gorilla on the couch for you to ignore:


    IF you think abortion is murder what sentence do you think women should get?

    If their state has the death penalty why shouldn't they be put to death like other murderers?

    Why shouldn't they get the same sentence any other murder gets?

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    What was the murderers sentence?
     
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    You are asking for men to pay for this. They need to have a voice in the funding if you wish them to pay for it. Do you want to take them out of the equation entirely and agree to absolve men from any abortion related costs?
     
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    That's because you can't hear the written word.
     
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    There is no consistency to this argument. It is one merely of convenience. You find no outrage when a "FETUS" is killed, nor when an infant old enough to live on it's own outside the womb is aborted. In an extreme sense of irony, women appear to be more likely than men to be aborted, as sex selected abortion is on the rise. Perhaps this isn't really an issue either, because women have the 'right of choice'.
     
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    If she is truly showing, she's lying to you about how far along she is.



    It doesn't feel a thing, so there's no trauma. And you never answered my question - do you have a uterus? Failure to answer will indicate you do not and therefore have no idea of what a woman goes through in gestation and childbirth.

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    She can have her crib sucked out of her home if she wants.

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    You have been given them, not my fault if you are in denial.



    Thanks for confirming it - you don't have a uterus. Let me know when you do, k?

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    And that's all we are to you and your ilk.


    Not in my country. Murder, by definition, is an illegal act. Legal abortion CANNOT be murder. Ever.

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    Nope.

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