It's obvious Abortion is wrong

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  1. MrNick

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    Yea, because I'm talking at you and everyone else in this hell hole not to you....
     
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    I couldn't care less about these moral arguments over whether abortion is "right" or "wrong", whatever those horrible words even mean. Even if someone thinks they're wrong, though, that is no reason to ban them for everyone else. If you don't like abortions, don't get 'em.
     
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    Anecdotes are NOT data.

    Thank you for tacitly admitting that you have absolutely no knowledge whatsoever about pregnancy.

    Have a nice day.
     
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    The language of "I can do as I please" is both unrealistic and unconstitutional.

    No. If a woman is forced to give pregnancy to a baby that is the result of actions she willingly undertook, then I would hold both her and the guy who helped accountable. The key here is not women's or men's rights, it's about respecting the concept of life, itself. To be able to destroy it merely because it inconveniences you and your excesses is not something I would endorse.

    No totally. Evolution aside, a woman will have particular detriments that make her inferior to men in some regards and she will particular powers that make her superior to men in some regards- on average. But, in the same vein, two men will have differences that make one inferior to the other in certain respects and superior to the other in certain respects.

    A child is killed during an abortion. This is a fact.

    Whether or not this act is acceptable or not are opinions.

    Some feminists fight for legal equality. This is different than trying to force a sense of absolute equality, or trying to present a woman as the 1:1 equal of a man in all respects. Some feminists strike me as having the same sickness of mind as some 99%'s. They don't want an end to the abuses of wealth, they want redistribution and acceptance into that class. In other words, it is not about rectifying injustices that definitely exist, it is about getting in on the action.
     
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    Are you opposed to murder little one?
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Are you seriously denying that the fetus is not attached to the placenta which is attached to the uterus? :eekeyes:
     
  7. MrNick

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    Anecdotes? no, it's fact...

    I love how you progressives just brush off any fact that's inconvenient for your arguments....

    There could be a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) gorilla on a couch and if it didn't fit your argument you would deny the it's there.....
     
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    Onus is on YOU to PROVE with CREDIBLE LINKS that a pregnant woman shows in the first month.

    So far just posting emotive disinformation doesn't count.
     
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    What are you going to say next "a fetus can't survive on its own without it's mother therefore it's not a baby"? yeah well neither can a toddler, should the mother be allowed to kill her toddler? neither can old people, should we be able to kill old people?
     
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    That's not what I'm talking about, obviously.

    You've provided no argument to support the claim that:

     
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    "volia" ????



    No babies are killed in abortions. No persons are killed in abortions. The Jews were persons. BORN persons with rights that were taken away like Anti-Choicers want to take away women's rights....THERE is your analogy.
     
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    You do realize it's different with every woman right?
     
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    If we switch the word woman to "killer" and abortion to "murder", would you still agree? Who are you to force your morals on a murderer?
     
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    If abortion isn't murder then why would I be charged with murder if a punched a pregnant woman in the stomach causing her to lose her baby?
     
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    No, not always.

    I'm not saying that we should all go out and murder people, but I'm not abstractly "opposed to murder."
     
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    A toddler is not biologically dependent the way a fetus is dependent. Anyone can care for a toddler but only the pregnant woman can sustain the fetus VIA THE PLACENTA!
     
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    At least you're an honest lil communist - bet you loved Lenin, Stalin, Che, Pol Pot, Mao and the rest of the stooges eh?
     
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    Since it is patently obvious that you don't know what you are talking about why should anyone else know?

    The fetus is attached to the woman so she has the right to remove the attachment. It is unethical to deny her the right to remove a cancerous tumor so why is it "ethical" to deny her the right to remove the fetus?
     
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    That's not even true at all - you ever hear of a premature baby? you know a premature baby that could have "legally" been aborted?

    Ever hear of botched abortions?
     
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    So you can't find a single credible link to support your absurd allegation that women show that they are pregnant in the first month.

    Got it!
     
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    Finally you made an argument, why was that so hard? It's the only pro-choice argument that makes any sense. That's what I put forth in my thread.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/abort...ustified-because-unwanted-fetus-parasite.html
     
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    Nope. Well I like Lenin I guess, but he didn't kill thaaat many people. In any case, communism is largely irrelevant here. I simply think that abstract opposition to certain actions is reductionist and counterproductive.
     
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    A premature baby must be VIABLE in order to survive.

    Do you even know what the term VIABILITY means when it comes to pregnancy?
     
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