Jacksonville Shooter of Jordan Davis

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by Not The Guardian, Feb 15, 2014.

  1. superbadbrutha

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    I never claimed she said anything about a bumper boy in the first place.
     
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    And I was taking or dismissing anything.......
     
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    Z-punk never made any effort not to look like a banger or a bumper. He needs his head broken.
     
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    ok.....
     
  5. superbadbrutha

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    .......maybe not, but many on here do.
     
  6. Iron River

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    Sorry I doubt that the liberal horde would have even noticed the crime in that case. Do you see the Black on white cases getting a lot of attention from white activists in your area??

    If two white people protested the verdict of a Black man getting off like this case and Holder would go after them for hate crimes.

    The white guy in this case is an idiot and should be in jail for shooting into a vehicle even if all of those kids had guns.
     
  7. superbadbrutha

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    There is no need to, because when someone black murders someone white they are immediately arrested, tried and put away for life.

    Why would two white people want to protest for a black man to get off for a crime he committed?
     
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    They didn't have guns. Stop bringing up fiction.
     
  9. ErikBEggs

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    ......... what you're saying is that your teenage son or daughter should obey a random stranger at night?

    :eekeyes:

    Try again.
     
  10. Geau74

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    Angela Corey is 0-1-1. Zero wins, one loss and one tie. She is batting the equivalent of .250. God help the next guy she prosecutes.
     
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    In the ten years from 2000-2010, there were 10,613 whites killed by blacks and there were 5,048 blacks killed by whites, so it might seem that way even though it is not.

    http://projects.wsj.com/murderdata/#view=all
     
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    They didn't have guns when they returned to the scene, but who, other than those in the car, knows whether they had them at the time of the shooting? And I don't think that you could count on those in the car to admit it if they did have guns at the time of the encounter.
     
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    I am not sure that it is the justice system that is failing young black men:

    Between 2000 and 2010, blacks killed 68,531, and only 10,613 of them were white. That leaves roughly 58,000 non-whites that were killed by blacks in those ten years. What should the justice system be doing for those 58,000 non-white people? I am guessing that most of those non-white victims were, in fact, black.

    It may be open season on young black men, but the hunters are far and away predominantly----young black men.

    http://projects.wsj.com/murderdata/#view=all
     
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    How is that relevant to the case? That "theory" is not admissable. There WERE NO GUNS FOUND IN THE VEHICLE. Period.

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    Strawman.

    We are talking about the situations at hand. White men in Florida can shoot black men out of fear and ask questions later, and get away with it. As long as the victim is dead, there is no one to dispute the claim.
     
  15. Geau74

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    Its not so much that black people have a war against white people, but the statistics appear to demonstrate that they have a war against everybody, more against one another than against white people, but sometimes white people are involved.
     
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    Yea bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

    Generalizing makes you look like an ignorant, racist bigot. I would retract that statement.
     
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    Ignorant, racist bigot? Better look in the mirror. The stats are what they are, and I am wondering why you are not worried about that. I did not create those stats. Someone did, and that is who you should be concerned with if, of course, you are really worried about young black men.
     
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    The way that it is relevant to the case is that the prosecution's case contends that the defendant shot without justification. Justification is, among other things, defense of one's person. If there was a gun in the vehicle, it lends credence to that justification. If there was not, then the defense is much weaker. The SUV was gone from the scene long enough to dispose of a weapon. If one or more of the jurors believes the defendant that there was a gun involved in the SUV, the jury will be hung. The fact that there was no gun in the SUV when it returned is not conclusive evidence that there was none inside when it was there before, so credibility is the deciding factor, and some jurors apparently thought that Dunn was credible. I agree that a number of his actions undermine his credibility, but I am not a juror and some of them apparently disagree with me.

    You wanted to know how it was relevant to the case---that is it.

    Strawman? I don't think so. Someone said that it was open season on young black men. The stats say it is open season on everyone. And most of the hunters are not old white men.

    On the other hand, scared people of any color are dangerous and should not be pursued carelessly. They can't help it, so I try to avoid scaring them. This has no racial parameters, but the world has traditionally been ruled by the strong, who feel entitled to ride roughshod over the weak. It appears that the weak are getting tired of it by some of the things that I have been seeing lately.
     
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    You generalized black men. Stats don't make it any less bigoted unless you can prove to me that EVERY black man is a criminal.

    Don't try to use your reverse racism defense mechanism on me, either. I don't generalize races like you do. You can take your feeble attack back to where it came from.
     
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    Well, you must see clearly what you have done, because you called it before I did. If what I did was bigoted generalization about black men, what you did was certainly the same thing. You can say all day long that you don't do it like I do, but that makes it no less false. You have become what you despise.

    No attack, I just didn't know you were so sensitive to the truth.
     
  21. superbadbrutha

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    How many blacks were killed by whites from lets say 1700 - 1980?
     
  22. superbadbrutha

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    One thing we know if nothing else is that young black teens or men with guns will use them, so the likelyhood that they had guns and just ran away scared is almost a joke.

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    What is her record when the roles are reversed?
     
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    Don't know, I wasn't there, were you? And would that bit of knowledge help solve the problem today? Or is it just justification for 58,000 black on black murders in the first decade of the 21st century?

    The problem cannot be solved because it is racist and bigoted even to speak of it.
     
  24. superbadbrutha

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    You were not alive in 1980?

    I don't know would it?

    Well bring a solution if that is the case.
     
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    yep, if the races were reversed, and it was a black man following Zimmerman in the night, wonder what they would think, I am sure it would be... stand your ground still for Zimmerman


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