Jacksonville Shooter of Jordan Davis

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by Not The Guardian, Feb 15, 2014.

  1. Geau74

    Geau74 Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2013
    Messages:
    331
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    18
    You cannot possibly be generalizing about young black teens and men with guns, can you? Because we have already established that that is racist and bigoted.

    As it concerns Angela Corey, I am only speaking of her record before the cameras.
     
  2. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,366
    Likes Received:
    11,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
    One the other hand, looking at crime statistics (and reality) one could conclude it is open season against white people be they male, female, old, young, or whatever. I don't believe there is a white neighborhood in the entire U.S. where a black person would have to be afraid to walk the street (with the possible exception of danger from the police in the rich white liberal enclaves in CA) but it would be dangerous for a white person to walk in most urban hoods.
     
  3. superbadbrutha

    superbadbrutha Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2006
    Messages:
    52,269
    Likes Received:
    6,446
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Yea thats what Trayvon thought the night he was walking home.
     
  4. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,366
    Likes Received:
    11,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Trayvon initiated the violence, so I wouldn't say he was attacked. I will say that I believe he was profiled, but a white person walking in a black urban hood will be more than profiled.
     
  5. superbadbrutha

    superbadbrutha Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2006
    Messages:
    52,269
    Likes Received:
    6,446
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Hmmmm, if I jump out of my vehicle in pursuit of you with a loaded weapon please explain how I initiated the violence.

    Really, thats funny seeing how whites come and go into black neighborhoods everyday.
     
  6. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,366
    Likes Received:
    11,538
    Trophy Points:
    113

    Following someone on foot while making a police report is not initiating violence. Sucker punching someone and then mounting them MMA style is initiating violence.
     
  7. ErikBEggs

    ErikBEggs New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2013
    Messages:
    3,543
    Likes Received:
    25
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Unless you are police, you have no right to follow anyone. They are going to get suspicious, threatened, and provoked.
     
  8. superbadbrutha

    superbadbrutha Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2006
    Messages:
    52,269
    Likes Received:
    6,446
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    What police report was he making? Didn't the dispatcher tell him they didn't need him to do that.

    Who gets suckerpunched when facing someone in a hostile situation.
     
  9. Micketto

    Micketto New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2013
    Messages:
    12,249
    Likes Received:
    99
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Most don't. Anger and insecurities cause people to make blanket statements like his.



    And I think most hang out here at PF.

    .
     
  10. Micketto

    Micketto New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2013
    Messages:
    12,249
    Likes Received:
    99
    Trophy Points:
    0
    What kind of generalizations?

    This kind ?

     
  11. Micketto

    Micketto New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2013
    Messages:
    12,249
    Likes Received:
    99
    Trophy Points:
    0
    If true, I am very sorry to hear that.

    I wish you the best.
     
  12. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,366
    Likes Received:
    11,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Let's just say Zimmy was a little lacking in the situational awareness department. When Travon said, "you got a f***ing problem homie" that should have been a clue for Zimmy to try to throw the first punch.
     
  13. superbadbrutha

    superbadbrutha Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2006
    Messages:
    52,269
    Likes Received:
    6,446
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Not buying it, if that was the case he would have never jumped out of his vehicle in pursuit of this teenager. Zimmerman knew exactly what he was doing.
     
  14. superbadbrutha

    superbadbrutha Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2006
    Messages:
    52,269
    Likes Received:
    6,446
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Can you believe there were actually 3 jurors on this jury who felt Dunn acted in Self-Defense.
     
  15. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,366
    Likes Received:
    11,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It is hard to believe. Clear case of murder IMHO.
     
  16. superbadbrutha

    superbadbrutha Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2006
    Messages:
    52,269
    Likes Received:
    6,446
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    They should feel right at home with all the white racist that post here.
     
  17. superbadbrutha

    superbadbrutha Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2006
    Messages:
    52,269
    Likes Received:
    6,446
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Leonard Pitts Jr.: In the case of Jordan Davis and Michael Dunn, white fear trumps black life

    You can get killed just for living in your American skin.” — Bruce Springsteen

    On Aug. 7, 1930, two young black men were lynched in Marion, Ind.

    A photographer named Lawrence Beitler had a studio across the street from the lynching tree. He came out and snapped what became an iconic photo, which he made into a postcard and sold. It shows Thomas Shipp and Abram Smith hanging dead and their executioners, faces clearly visible, milling about as if at a picnic. Though authorities possessed this damning photographic evidence, they never arrested anyone for the crime. It was officially attributed to “persons unknown.”

    This was not a unique thing. To the contrary, it happened thousands of times. And African Americans carry this knowledge deep, the understanding that the justice system has betrayed us often, smashed our hopes often, denied the value of our lives, often.

    This knowledge lent a certain tension and poignancy to the wait for a verdict in the Jordan Davis trial last week. Davis was the black kid shot dead by a white man, Michael Dunn, at a gas station in Jacksonville, Fla., in November 2012 after an argument over loud music. Dunn’s story was fishy from the beginning.

    He claimed Davis pointed a weapon at him. No weapon was ever found. Nor was Dunn ever able to satisfactorily explain why he fired off a second round of shots as the SUV in which Davis was riding tried to retreat. Or why he left the scene and failed to call police. Or why his fiancĂ©e, who was inside the convenience store when the shooting started, says he never mentioned Davis’ phantom “gun” to her.

    A guilty verdict would seem to have been a foregone conclusion. It wasn’t.

    Indeed, the verdict was mystifying. Dunn was found guilty on three counts of attempted murder — meaning the three other young men in the SUV with Davis — but the jury deadlocked on the murder charge. It makes no sense: If Dunn is guilty of the three charges, how can he not be guilty of the fourth?

    The jury’s inability to hold him accountable for Davis’ death only validates African Americans’ grimmest misgivings about the “just us” system. Brittney Cooper, an assistant professor at Rutgers University, put it as follows on Twitter: “This is not just about jail time. This is about whether white fear legally means more than black life.”
    http://www.newarkadvocate.com/artic...ic-trial-black-in-america-racism-Jordan-Davis
     

Share This Page