Jan 2014 Was 4th Warmest on Record & 347 consecutive month above 20th C avg

that last bit of ignorance made me chuckle, it defies belief...I wouldn't believe it possible if I hadn't read it for myself, and I don't think it's trolling he actually believes what he wrote...

 

I agree, to have an intelligent discussion with you is pointless, since you have no point. Thanks for playing.

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At least it's mine, what you got? Add some value to something once in your life.

Edit: BTW, the graph proves my point so again thanks for playing.

 

It's funny who is calling whom a cultist.

Anyway, it's nice to see you can actually form thoughts of your own, after that complete copy and paste of a thread you created.
Well, not your own, but at least you typed the insult portion.
Probably...

 

I doubt it!

 

Globally, this last month, March 2014, was, in fact, the fourth-warmest March since 1880. You could accurately claim that this fact could be put down to natural variation and random chance.

However, another fact that cannot be attributed to random chance or natural variation, a fact that is a definite sign of ongoing, continuous global warming, is the fact that this March was the 349th-straight month of global temperatures above the 20th-century average for that month. That's 29 straight years with every single month of every year having global average temperatures higher than the twentieth century average temperature for that month.

The denier cultists point to a rather cold winter in large parts of the USA and ask: "where's the global warming?" Apparently the answer involves the fact that there are other countries in the world besides the United States. For example, 2013 was the hottest year on record in Australia.

 

good. I hope the trend continues. We stil need to warm up another degree or two to get back to where we were before the start of the Little Ice Age

 

Ignorant nonsense.

Global Temperatures Highest in 4,000 Years
The New York Times
By JUSTIN GILLIS
March 7, 2013
(excerpts)
Global temperatures are warmer than at any time in at least 4,000 years, scientists reported Thursday, and over the coming decades are likely to surpass levels not seen on the planet since before the last ice age. Previous research had extended back roughly 1,500 years, and suggested that the rapid temperature spike of the past century, believed to be a consequence of human activity, exceeded any warming episode during those years. The new work confirms that result while suggesting the modern warming is unique over a longer period. In the new research, scheduled for publication on Friday in the journal Science, Shaun Marcott, an earth scientist at Oregon State University, and his colleagues compiled the most meticulous reconstruction yet of global temperatures over the past 11,300 years, virtually the entire Holocene. They used indicators like the distribution of microscopic, temperature-sensitive ocean creatures to determine past climate.

Though the paper is the most complete reconstruction of global temperature, it is roughly consistent with previous work on a regional scale. It suggests that changes in the amount and distribution of incoming sunlight, caused by wobbles in the earth’s orbit, contributed to a sharp temperature rise in the early Holocene. The climate then stabilized at relatively warm temperatures about 10,000 years ago, hitting a plateau that lasted for roughly 5,000 years, the paper shows. After that, shifts of incoming sunshine prompted a long, slow cooling trend. The cooling was interrupted, at least in the Northern Hemisphere, by a fairly brief spike during the Middle Ages, known as the Medieval Warm Period. Scientists say that if natural factors were still governing the climate, the Northern Hemisphere would probably be destined to freeze over again in several thousand years. “We were on this downward slope, presumably going back toward another ice age,” Dr. Marcott said. Instead, scientists believe the enormous increase in greenhouse gases caused by industrialization will almost certainly prevent that.

Michael E. Mann, a researcher at Pennsylvania State University who is an expert in the relevant techniques but was not involved in the new research, said the authors had made conservative data choices in their analysis. “It’s another important achievement and significant result as we continue to refine our knowledge and understanding of climate change,” Dr. Mann said. Dr. Mann pointed out that the early Holocene temperature increase was almost certainly slow, giving plants and creatures time to adjust. But he said the modern spike would probably threaten the survival of many species, in addition to putting severe stresses on human civilization. “We and other living things can adapt to slower changes,” Dr. Mann said. “It’s the unprecedented speed with which we’re changing the climate that is so worrisome.”

 

Old news, it's trash today! Flush!!!!!

 

LOLOLOL. It is your fraudulent denier cult myths that are the trash that needs to be flushed.

The basic fact is that the Earth is warming up due to mankind's actions. We've just seen 349 consecutive months of global temperatures above the 20th-century average for that month. Your denial of this reality just gets ever more absurd.

 

ahh being called ignorant then you quote Michael Mann. The phd student who became famous by torturing more data into submission than the Catholics tortured heretics in the Inquisition. Want to play climate "scientist" and suck up all the much grant money you could ever dream of? here is how

take 50 or 60 sets of low frequency long term proxy data, apply a smoothing filter which will make it nice and flat. But here is the "trick" When you want the data no longer to be smooth and flat you just splice on some high frequency data from instrument records. Voila you can be published in UN reports and receive tons of grant money from Uncle Sugar

It worked for Mann and again for Marcott, it will work for you too

back to topic though
To quote Lindzen – one would expect our times to be warmest in a warming climate.

 

Ahhhh, science denial....the hallmark of the delusional AGW denialists and the Flat Earth Society.....it worked (for a while) for the tobacco industry, it will work (for a while) for the stooges and dupes of the fossil fuel industry.....but reality quickly becomes undeniable when the evidence comes obvious to everyone....whether cancer deaths caused by tobacco, or the warming and climate changes caused by mankind's CO2 emissions, the fraudulent propaganda of the deniers is eventually exposed to be lies....

One of the facts that the deniers have to ignore or deny is that March was the 349th consecutive month of global temperatures above the 20th-century average for that month.

 

If you are calling me a denier then I consider it a compliment. I could never support the political policies whose implementation has caused needless for hundreds of thousands suffering in the areas where it has been enacted. If your desire is to cause widespread death through energy poverty so the political and corporate elite can increase their wealth then that is on you. My conscious is clear

Interesting that you bring up the flat earth though. I would wager that you believe the 97% consensus figure that the AGW alarmists toss out. Yet they ignore that in the 1400's there was a 97% consensus that the Earth was flat and it took a "denier" of the scientific consensus to discover the world was spherical.

 

You and your ilk are termed 'deniers' because you've been duped into denying the very clear and well supported scientific conclusions about the reality and causes of the current abrupt warming trend and the rapid climate changes that this warming is causing. The rest of your little screed is just ignorant drivel and fraudulent denier cult propaganda. You've been duped into serving the economic and political agenda of the polluters who are causing this climate change crisis. Your notions about what is happening are complete nonsense.

There is a very real worldwide scientific consensus on the reality, causes and dangers of anthropogenic global warming/climate changes. This consensus is based on the mountains of research, sensor data, and hard physical evidence that scientists have accumulated in many decades of intensive research. This consensus is reflected in the peer-reviewed scientific papers that have been published over the last decades, the position statements of the world's leading scientific organizations, and in a number of actual surveys of the scientific community. Only brainwashed delusional denier cultists don't believe there is a real scientific consensus on AGW.

And there you go again, trying to push another delusional denier cult myth that just betrays your own ignorance.

Your first insanely wrong delusion is that modern science even existed "in the 1400's", or that such a thing as a 'scientific consensus' could have existed then.

Your next insanely wrong delusion and denier cult myth is that the intelligent and educated people of the 1400's actually thought that the Earth is flat.

Your final insanely wrong delusion, even if it wasn't based on just another fraudulent denier cult myth, is the one that thinks that because people living six centuries ago supposedly believed some mistaken ideas about the nature of the world, that fact somehow invalidates modern scientific conclusions. That's just nuts.

There was no "science" in the modern sense, nor any "scientific consensus" "in the 1400's", you poor befuddled dupe of the denier cult propagandists. The organized system of studying Nature and recording and sharing that knowledge, that we call 'science', is a fairly recent development in human history. There was no widespread belief in a 'flat Earth' back then, let alone any 'consensus'.

History of science
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Science is a body of empirical, theoretical, and practical knowledge about the natural world, produced by scientists who emphasize the observation, explanation, and prediction of real world phenomena. The English word scientist is relatively recent—first coined by William Whewell in the 19th century. Previously, people investigating nature called themselves natural philosophers.

While empirical investigations of the natural world have been described since classical antiquity (for example, by Thales, Aristotle, and others), and scientific methods have been employed since the Middle Ages (for example, by Ibn al-Haytham, and Roger Bacon), the dawn of modern science is often traced back to the early modern period and in particular to the scientific revolution that took place in 16th- and 17th-century Europe. Scientific methods are considered to be so fundamental to modern science that some consider earlier inquiries into nature to be pre-scientific.[3]

The Age of Enlightenment was a European affair. The 17th century "Age of Reason" opened the avenues to the decisive steps towards modern science, which took place during the 18th century "Age of Enlightenment". Directly based on the works[100] of Newton, Descartes, Pascal and Leibniz, the way was now clear to the development of modern mathematics, physics and technology by the generation of Benjamin Franklin (1706–1790), Leonhard Euler (1707–1783), Mikhail Lomonosov (1711–1765) and Jean le Rond d'Alembert (1717–1783), epitomized in the appearance of Denis Diderot's Encyclopédie between 1751 and 1772. The impact of this process was not limited to science and technology, but affected philosophy (Immanuel Kant, David Hume), religion (notably with the appearance of positive atheism, and the increasingly significant impact of science upon religion), and society and politics in general (Adam Smith, Voltaire), the French Revolution of 1789 setting a bloody cesura indicating the beginning of political modernity[citation needed]. The early modern period is seen as a flowering of the European Renaissance, in what is often known as the Scientific Revolution, viewed as a foundation of modern science.[101]


Myth of the Flat Earth
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The myth of the Flat Earth is the modern misconception that the prevailing cosmological view during the Middle Ages saw the Earth as flat, instead of spherical.[1]

During the early Middle Ages, virtually all scholars maintained the spherical viewpoint first expressed by the Ancient Greeks. From at least the 14th century, belief in a flat Earth among the educated was almost nonexistent, despite fanciful depictions in art, such as the exterior of Hieronymus Bosch's famous triptych The Garden of Earthly Delights, in which a disc-shaped Earth is shown floating inside a transparent sphere.[2]

According to Stephen Jay Gould, "there never was a period of 'flat earth darkness' among scholars (regardless of how the public at large may have conceptualized our planet both then and now). Greek knowledge of sphericity never faded, and all major medieval scholars accepted the Earth's roundness as an established fact of cosmology."[3] Historians of science David Lindberg and Ronald Numbers point out that "there was scarcely a Christian scholar of the Middle Ages who did not acknowledge [Earth's] sphericity and even know its approximate circumference".[4]

Historian Jeffrey Burton Russell says the flat-earth error flourished most between 1870 and 1920, and had to do with the ideological setting created by struggles over evolution.[5] Russell claims "with extraordinarily few exceptions no educated person in the history of Western Civilization from the third century B.C. onward believed that the earth was flat", and credits histories by John William Draper, Andrew Dickson White, and Washington Irving for popularizing the flat-earth myth.[6]

Since the early 20th century, a number of books and articles have documented the flat earth error as one of a number of widespread misconceptions in popular views of the Middle Ages. Both E.M.W. Tillyard's book The Elizabethan World Picture and C.S. Lewis' The Discarded Image are devoted to a broad survey of how the universe was viewed in Renaissance and medieval times, and both extensively discuss how the educated classes knew the world was round. Lewis draws attention to the fact that in Dante's The Divine Comedy about an epic voyage through hell, purgatory, and heaven, the earth is spherical with gravity being towards the center of the earth. As the devil is frozen in a block of ice in the center of the earth, Dante and Virgil climb down the devil's torso, but up from the devil's waist to his feet, as his waist is at the center of the earth.

Jeffrey Burton Russell rebutted the prevalence of belief in the flat earth in a monograph[29] and papers.[30][31] Louise Bishop (2008 ) states that virtually every thinker and writer of the 1000-year medieval period affirmed the spherical shape of the earth.[32]

 

Do you have anything of value to add to the thread or should I just put you on my "ignore " list

 

LOLOL....well, you already try to 'ignore' all of the scientific evidence supporting AGW, so, since I post that evidence all the time and thoroughly debunk your cherished denier cult myths and fantasies, I'm surprised that you aren't already ignoring me. Of course, some people might think that debunking your fraudulent myths and educating your ignorance and false beliefs, like I just did, adds value to the thread, but I can see how getting your drivel debunked might upset you.

 

after the intellectual drubbing you just gave him you deserved to be ignored that was extremely cruel

 

it is funny being accused of denying science by someone who believes in models and an agency which has not made a accurate prediction in 20 years over the proven historical fact that we are just getting back to normal with the current warming trend