January 6 Hearing Session 6: "They're not here to hurt ME"

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    This was an immensely revealing testimony. Now we know everything that happened around Trump and in the WH on January 6.

    There is A LOT. So I'll try to summarize it as briefly as I can. But there was way more than this.

    We learned that Trump KNEW that the insurrectionists were armed. And his response "They're not here to hurt ME". Which makes it obvious that he knew they were there ready for violence. And, knowing that, he STILL sent them to assault the Capitol. Not only that, he ordered them to take down the magnetometers set up by the Secret Service, and which had confiscated some of the armament.

    We learned about the physical altercation with the person driving the car, because Trump wanted to go to the Capitol, despite the fact that it was impossible for the Secret Service to do their job. Which only proves that Trump has the mental capacity of a 5 year old.

    Once in the WH, we know how Trump REFUSED to do anything to stop the insurrection. Not until he started to receive notice that they were considering invoking the 25th amendment did he put out a lukewarm statement telling the insurrectionist to go home, and that he "loved" them.

    In the final section we saw the words of several of the witnesses themselves who tell about how Trump has manipulated them to not cooperate with the committee.

    Now, most of what we heard were 2nd hand accounts. BUT, this is very significant because it will motivate others to come forward. Starting with Pat Cipollone, who now has nothing to hide. He actually came out looking pretty good. And Mark Meadows, who will have no choice but to come in and explain what he did to persuade Trump to stop the insurrection. Because, if he doesn't, I think he will surely be indicted.
     
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    Nothing burger. Under cross examination Hutchinson's testimony would fall apart.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    "Crumble"? You're still not understanding the hearings. Read the last paragraph of the OP.

    In any case, her testimony can EASILY be rebutted with a testimony from either Pat Cipollone and Mark Meadows. Either one of them can come, under oath, and state that "she lied". At which point, it would be HER who would be prosecuted for perjury. Simple as that. But, being that simple, this also means that if they DON'T come forward, the only reason is that her testimony is factual.

    Trump's response was that she committed perjury to get back at him because he wouldn't let her ride with him to Mar-a-Lago after the elections. That's it! What does such a response tell you? Please respond. Your answer to this will tell us everything we need to know about how seriously we should take your opinions. So I know you WON'T response. Which would ALSO tells us everything we need to know about how seriously we should take what you say.
     
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    :roflol:How can I take you seriously when you try to rig the game?

    Aren't you putting the cart before the horse? Neither Pat Cipollone nor Mark Meadows are compelled to defend themselves against lies. Trump called her a liar claiming she had a grudge to grind. Obviously someone has to be a liar and I'm sure you believe it's Trump. With that mindset, to discuss an issue is an effort in futility.
     
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    In any case, her testimony can EASILY be shredded with a Cross-examination by any competent lawyer … but this is not a court so we will hear only one side in a kangaroo court like TV production…. But eat it up Liberals.. it is all you got.
     
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    Impossible.
     
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    They don't care about anything other than their Orange Stain. He said he could shoot somebody and not lose any supporters so why are you expecting them to give a damn?

    Trump sounds even crazier than I originally suspected. Of course he is bashing her, but he could have not said anything and it would downplayed her testimony. But, his threats, social media rants, having people spying on the investigation, etc. all show that he is sweating this big time.

    Nobody with an ounce of sense believes that hundreds of people are distancing themselves and divulging what he's like up close and personal. Why would someone risk their career, reputation and subject themselves to unmitigated hatred from his groupies for no reason?
     
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    So nobody could testify that she's lying?
     
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    Throw it at the wall!

    Trump bum-kissing lickspittles are incapable of refuting the sworn testimony of so many conservative Republican officeholders and insiders with intimate knowledge of the Cry Baby Loser's goon attack on the Capitol and failed scheme to thwart the democratic process. Their corroborative accounts form the official record for posterity as so many Trump cronies. seekers of pre-emptive pardons, are desperate to conceal the truth by defying subpoenas that would force them to lie under oath..

    Kudos to courageous, young Republican Cassidy Hutchinson, an American patriot.

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    Trump goons who threatened the lives of Republican officeholders and poll workers and their families will be targeting Ms Hutchinson for speaking truth.
    Her security must now be addressed.
     
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    No one they'd dare call as a witness.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    The ONLY side we have heard from so far is the Trump side.
     
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    That is the case with the long list of Republicans who testified under oath.

    They are targeted for vendettas, vilifications, and other vile stuff, not substantive refutations.

    The RINOs of Trumpery now befoul the Party founded in 1854 that they infested in 2016.
     
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    The only thing Hutchinson has going for her is that she's cute. I noticed, that despite the claim she was an excellent note taker, she had some lapses in her memory (which a good attorney would have a field day over). Perhaps the Committee should allow the script for those testifying to also be on a teleprompter for them to read from. :)
     
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    Her testimony was confirmed by two other witnesses, including Kayleigh McEnnany.
     
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    Down to the number of turds in the last crap he took that day...

    Your comments might not have much substance to speak of, but they do lay ground for funny comebacks
    No to mention perjury.
     
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    We have heard nothing in defense of Trump.
     
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    So nobody could step forward with information?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Such as... whom? They've called EVERYBODY as a witness. And this session revealed why they won't come. In their own words!
     
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    If the Trump lickspittles wanted a trial instead of Congressional investigative hearings, cross-examinations, opportunities for diversions, etc., the proposed independent commission they sabotaged would have approximated one. Would the Trumpies defying subpoenas no longer be hellbent on avoiding testifying under oath if they had not run from the politically-balanced commission?

    Nothing now can prevent their rebuttals and demonizations of all the Republican witnesses but their inbred Trump propaganda network.
     
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    Physically impossible.

    Not only is it physically impossible, the testimony fails to provide any cross examination which might aid in the defense of Trump.
     
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    Bingo! Who would be so dumb to defend a criminal under oath?
     
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    If the Cry Baby Loser's dead-enders who refused to testify under oath feel that they need to smear her sworn, first-hand testimony, nothing is to prevent them from vilifying her.

    I'm concerned for her safety.
     
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    She didn't work for the Clintons. Relax.
     
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    It's not a trial. It's a Congressional investigative committee. Republicans rejected a balanced, independent commission.

    There is nothing to prevent Trump's dead-ender lickspittles from challenging all the substantive, corroborative sworn testimonies of so may Republicans if they wish to try.
     
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    I was thinking of Raffensperger, Bower, and so many innocent poll workers and their families threatened by Trump goons, not Vince Foster upon whom Hillary was rumored to have dropped a 40-kilo block of lime Jell-o ® off of a 4-story building.
     
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