Jeb Bush hardens position, says he opposes gay marriage

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  1. Thirty6BelowZero

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    Ok, Cautiously Conservative, let's hear your meaning behind "anti-gay."
     
  2. Thirty6BelowZero

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    Is that what they teach you guys nowadays? That you can give another man oral sex or butt sex and if you're not attracted to him then you're not a homosexual?

    I'll just leave you with this... If you'll have a sexual encounter with a person of the same sex, you're homosexual. Period. Gay.
     
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    And I showed a situation where sex is used not because of attraction but because of power and control. Your dismissing it is of no concern to me. You ignore definitions and reality all the time. Your ignorance is not my concern.
    And by definition, you would be wrong. Sorry you hate the English language, I can't help you with that. Ignorance runs rampant with the cons these days.
     
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    It's not a top issue for most people. I won't based on it, but in average person's eyes it makes the candidate lose credibility. When the GOP spouts rhetoric from the Family Research Council they look foolish just like when they deny evolution or say that they're a nerd for Charles Murray.
     
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    Now that's funny. I've said that sexual acts like that, and in the animal kingdom with monkeys was all just a domination move and I've been called a liar by your kind for it. It was used in an attempt to justify homosexual acts as being natural.
     
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    The only "crying victim" I see is what I marked in bold, by you.

    I'm surprised the mods didn't mark the underlined as flame bait. But, that's all people like you are good for....old, overused, corny insults.
     
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    Well I don't really care what your fetish is by watching animals butt(*)(*)(*)(*) each other, that's between you and god. But my comment was about prison inmates, not monkeys.

    As for "my kind", why is "my kind"?
     
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    Define natural. Homosexuality is found in many animals.
     
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    When I say "anti-gay," I'm referring to those who oppose equal rights for openly homosexual persons. I don't mean those who actually hate or fear homosexuals, because I feel there are very few of those, and they are typically sitting at home, unemployed on the couch with beer cans laying around. LOL

    No, what I mean is those people who argue against allowing gay marriage for consenting couples. Those who teach their children that there is "something wrong" with gay people.
     
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    Shhhhhh, they don't know that. They think you can be a homosexual without being gay...

    I know, I've been getting a good laugh at it all morning too
     
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    No, that is fact. Sorry you hate the truth. You also hate deifnitions it seems because it displays your comments for what they are....ignorant tripe.
    Again, with the crying victim from you.

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    I've been laughing that you and others don't know sexuality or definitions of things like "homosexual". It's amusing watching the ignorance from cons today.
     
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    Then what would be the point of the GOP? You'd be better off getting the liberals to lean that way.
     
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    Try debating instead of being hypocritical and talking about someone else being ignorant.

    Homosexual is being sexually attracted to your own sex. Do you like to go have sex with people you're not sexually attracted to? You've got to find an attraction just to get it up in the first place, genius. Or you can take a pill, and who's gonna go to that trouble just to put it in someone they're not attracted to? Especially a heterosexual male and another male. Please, at least SOME common sense if you don't mind.
     
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    Google definition of homophobia: dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people

    I'd just like to be clear what definition I'm using when I use the term. Some people say it should mean irrational fear of homosexuals or homosexual behavior. Although I'd agree that the dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people comes from an irrational fear so I don't hate that definition either. What constitutes as irrational can be more subjective so I prefer the first definition even if the semantics of the word are misleading.

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    Social issues and values will change over time. There will always be a party that wants to spend/tax less and a party that wants to spend/tax more.
     
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    Again, no you do not, Prison inmates do all the time and it has NOTHING to do with attraction in most those case. It is YOU who is not using common sense. I gave you the definition and no where does it talk about action. NOWHERE. So take your ignorance to some anti-gay rally and spread your ignorance elsewhere. I've proven you wrong and that is for everyone to see.

    Homophobes are simply idiots.
     
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    Your kind is the kind that has no base, no fluidity. You just regurgitate what you're told with no facts outside of MSNBC and Mother Jones articles. People that call anyone that doesn't support gay marriage an anti gay religious right wing fanatic, etc. Yall are single handedly pushing the left wing voters to the right because of your ill-informed judgments, childish insults, and lack of common sense to any situation involving cops & robbers, gay marriage, and the other retarded (*)(*)(*)(*) yall feel like carelessly blaming on Christians and right wing Conservatives. It takes a very special kind of idiot to push left wingers to the right like yall are doing.

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    Name one, besides the bogonos monkey. That's the only breed that does it for "fun."
     
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    And yet again, all you have done is demonstrated your ignorance. If that is the best you can come up with refuting what I said, you've lost. Have fun wallowing in your ignorance. :roflol:
     
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    Disagreeing with gay marriage is far from "anti-gay."

    An anti-gay person is a person who is prejudiced against or opposed to homosexuality or homosexuals. People that support traditional marriage over gay marriage are not anti-gay. To be anti-gay, you would have to hate gays just for being gay, and though progressives will tell you all day long that that's what you do if you don't support gay marriage, it's simply untrue. I can't believe that you would fall for that false narrative.

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    Nice comebacks bro.
     
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    "religious hate groups"......what a ridiculous term
     
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    That's the definition of anti-gay as well... Regardless, being non supportive of gay marriage does not mean that you dislike gay people, nor that you hate them. That's just a copout used to ignore debate.

    People don't just vote for the higher or lower taxes and spending.
     
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    There are also anti-gay atheists. I would say most religious people who're anti-gay just use their religion to justify their homophobia. I say this, because they have no problem breaking religious rules in other ways, including the all important 10 Commandments which doesn't even mention homosexuality. Though I've been corrected in this thread in that not all people against gay marriage are homophobes. Some are just irrational and use fallacious logic, because they're not thinking rationally. These are the people who say things like, "I'm against gay marriage, because I'm against abortion". That said, at least from what I've seen, the vast majority of people who're against gay marriage are homophobic. I've never seen a politician give a non-homophobic answer as to why they're against gay marriage in my life.
     
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    Insisting that same sex couples be treated differently under the law for no good reason is anti-gay.
     
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    I would say it's a fairly accurate description of groups like the Family Research Council.

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    I'll give you chance. Maybe you have a logical reason. What's a logical reason for not supporting same-sex marriage?
     
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    There's no debating the issue with you since you won't give any rational reasons for being against same sex marriage.
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior
     

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