Jesus Christ Said "I am Coming Soon."

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  1. resisting arrest

    resisting arrest Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The next-to-last verse in the Bible (In Revelations) is Jesus saying, "I am coming soon." He said that 2,000 years ago.[​IMG]


    Christianity: The popular belief that a celestial Jewish baby who is also his own father, born from virgin mother, died for three days so that he could ascend to heaven on a cloud and then make you live forever only if you symbolically eat his flesh, drink his blood and telepathically tell him you accept him as your lord & master so he can remove an evil force from your spiritual being that is present in all humanity because an immoral woman made from a man's rib was hoodwinked by a talking reptile possessed by an malicious angel to secretly eat forbidden fruit from a magical tree. Sounds perfectly plausible...
     
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    Please keep in mind we are dealing with an Intelligence so great that that Being can take any moment in time from the time of His resurrection.......
    and replicate all humans who lived in that instant......

    and then spin off a new time line that fulfills Ezekiel chapter thirty seven, Revelation chapter twenty and Romans chapters nine, ten and eleven.... just to name a few verses.......

    Here is some background material in support of all this.....

    www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/


    and here is an explanation for the Cyclic Model of the Universe / Multiverse by a near death experiencer who was an Atheist prior to his brush with death.

    https://near-death.com/mellen-thomas-benedict/

     
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    String Theory, The Anthropic Principle, Energy from Quantum Vacuum, Multiverse Theory, and a Grand Unified Theory even in its infancy all indicate that our Creator has no technological limitations at all.

     
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    So what do you actually know about String Theory, The Anthropic Principle, Energy from Quantum Vacuum, Multiverse Theory, and a Grand Unified Theory proving a supernatural creator, let alone saying the creator has no limitations?

    You are attempting an argument from authority (a fallacy), only the scientific authorities of the science you cite do not even assert their is a creator.

    Rather than pseudo science perhaps you will present or cite empirical evidence to support asserting there is a creator.
     
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    What if Jesus did return, looked around, saw today's Christians, was embarassed by what they had done and were doing in his name, and quietly left?

    That would explain a lot, right?
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What I know is not what is important......
    but the evidence that we are living in a Multiverse is impressive indeed. Near death experience accounts are merely one type of evidence... but they are my favourite types of anecdotal evidence accounts for this.

    https://near-death.com/future/


     
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    Or... could it be that all these messed up Christians are perfectly set up for the return of fallen King of the Watchers named Azazel...... who led two hundred and eight Watchers / sons of G-d in taking human women as wives and who had children who were giants. These giants were termed the Nephilim.

    Could it be that we are in the time period symbolized by the fall Jewish Holy Days as opposed to the Spring Holy Days that John the Baptist, Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus and the early church lived in????

    Could it be that this mess is perfectly scheduled to correspond with a plan of salvation that will expand the kingdom of heaven soon into the realms of darkness which I suspect could correspond with five dimensional space time.... six dimensional space time and perhaps seven dimensional space time?????

    www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/

    My theory is that whoever Azazel is whose name is given in Leviticus chapter sixteen in the original Hebrew as well as in the Book of Enoch..... he becomes the ultimate General Abner type of person who led the northern ten tribes to King David... or to the Apostle Paul who repented of killing Messianic Jews and even worse.... .compelling them to blaspheme before he killed them.........


    "but the goat on which the lot fell for Aza'zel shall be presented alive before the LORD
    to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness
    to Aza'zel." (Leviticus 16:10)
     
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    Biblical literalism doesn't work. Fortunately for the Bible, allegory and parable also exist.
     
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    This is pretty interesting information....
    near death experiencer Dr. Kevin Zadai was told by Jesus that during the events of his temptation in the wilderness by Satan explained in Matthew chapter four... he remembered having formed Covering Cherub Hillel and knowing that this great begins would eventually attempt to kill him....... and become known as Satan....

    .... My theory is that Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan is on a guilt trip from having attempted to kill his Creator.......

    He is seriously into self hatred and he wants to bring others down further and further and further with him.......... or.... he could be ACTING..... and this could all be one huge psychological experiment to him???????

    One guest on Sid Roth said that there were two massive serpents in Eden..... INSECURITY AND INFERIORITY........
    attempting to murder your creator and take over the Throne of the Creator.... can put you on a collision course with extreme insecurity and inferiority.... and the way back may not be so easy............... or he could be Acting?????? The full truth is far above my Security Clearnce Level...... but I do believe that the Creator has a plan to save even fallen angels.... or why would the name Azazel be in Levicitus chapter sixteen as well as in the Book of Enoch?????


    Applied Multiverse Theory... would perfectly explain Biblical Literalism....... in my opinion anyway.....

    https://near-death.com/richard-eby-nde/


     
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    CATS will inherit the Kingdom of Heaven.
     
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    @ Dennis Tate
    First I want to say I am replying with no intention to convert, trash or challenge any of the posts you made.
    Interesting .I did try to read your copied text and cut out all the poetic and repeated allusions (as opposed to illusions) .
    This is what I got.
    The testimony by the near death experiencer is cast very much as an affirmation of what science now tells us of the nature of the universe (s). It takes the theories now pretty much accepted as probable and puts them into terms synonymous with what most people understand as theological , giving them recognised references like God which is perfectly understandable for reasons of easier communication.
    If you look back to some of the threads in which we discussed what came before the Big Bang you will find mention of vibration in a near void. This is a well known part of string theory hence your subtitle.
    I'll throw in a personal comment...years ago I had major surgery during which I had a ND experience. I won't go into detail but it wasn't far off the one you describe. When I mentioned it, the doctor said it isn't unusual when the patient is given a certain drug...I forget the name.
    The second extract about music you use is actually very close to 15th ans 16th century western cultural belief in The Music of the Spheres where the planets move in concentric circles rubbing against each other making celestial music, or God's harmony. It indicates the spirit of God managing the universe. If anything happens to destabilise this order of God, the world will suffer and vice versa. We too can cause celestial disharmony. Much literature has been written using such imagery . As for music in trees, it has been proven that you can hear water rising up treetrunks to support them.
    The parts about the nature of Satan is very close to Milton's understanding of his nature. The conclusion includes that the nature of evil is to be outside of good.

    After much reading and reflection, I recognise the roots of these proposals as being either old theories or attempts at incorporating new science into spiritual terms.
    I could add something of my own. While I am not into celestial music other that the great choral works generated by faith or all kinds , I believe this. That because matter and creation cannot die, but can change in nature (liquid to gas etc) there is truth in what is called resurrection. I also believe we can direct out resurrection/reincarnation before we die. Cremation releases you into the wider universe(s) as light and heat. Burial retains your essence here on earth and you regenerate life anew here.
    The choice is yours.
    Finally I have long been noting a struggle in the Christian faith to remain relevant. Hitching fundamental concepts to new science has been done for a very long time. I have no issue with it other than it is recognised as a tradition. It is done every day in those God spots . And the parts about heavenly music was the same effort in times when science was just developing knowledge of planetary motion.
    Explanations about the nature of evil are based on the duality present in every aspect of reality...either something is or it is not. And one defines the other. Good defines evil, evil defines good. Both have to exist. There must always be a comparative for the words to mean anything.
    If you got this far, thanks for reading.
     
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    Dr. Ken Ring found that roughly one near death experience in six involved a meeting with a previously deceased cat, dog, horse or other pet......

    This was especially true in the cases where a child reported a near death experience.....


    https://near-death.com/susans-nde/

    Susan’s Near-Death Experience with Her Pets
    BY KEVIN WILLIAMSPOSTED ON SEPTEMBER 20, 2019
     
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    Well said..... yes.... near death experience accounts fit amazingly well with the new ideas in Theoretical Physics.......
    and the question that I have been asking myself since 1990 is how in the world could Dr. George Ritchie describe the implications of String Theory so brilliantly back in 1943..... several decades before Dr. Stephen Hawking and others wrote up String Theory in high school level English?????


    https://near-death.com/george-ritchie-nde/


    I quoted Dr. Stephen Hawking from an article in this blog......

    www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/


     
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    Quite frankly, after the way he got treated last time I don't know why he would ever want to come back.
     
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    Actually.... His promise was to now raise up his great, great,great .... grandfather King David.......

    I believe as "Moshiach ben Ephrayim / Moshiach son of Joseph / Yosef".......... and it seems like he has driven a huge segment of the population of the world out of their minds by hinting that He can somehow manifest "King David" through....... a real estate billionaire????????????????

    The raising up of the modern King David occurs at the time of the fulfillment of the hidden meaning in Rosh Ha Shanah, Yom Kippur and the Festival of Tabernacles / Sukkot but they are different.....and I believe that a huge percentage of the hidden meaning there in Yom Kippur was revealed to near death experiencer Dr. Bruce F. MacDonald and Mr. Christian Andreason.

    I was actually being completely serious with the following post......


    Your nomination for Nobel Prize in Literature?


    The NDE's of Dr. MacDonald and Christian Andreason are my two favourite ones...... I suspect that the Patriarch Joseph / Yosef may have reincarnated as Christian Andreason........ because Joseph was always a REVEALER OF MYSTERIES!


    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/index.html


    I was actually being quite serious with this discussion as well........

    Should Israel crown Donald J. Trump as Moshiach ben Ephrayim?

    My theory is that the construction of the literal Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight temple complex is the key to convincing Messiah Yeshua - Jesus to come back down here and fulfill Zechariah chapter fourteen.......... which does have some interesting ideas in there with off the scale implications............ Egyptians observing the Festival of Tabernacles / Sukkot?????!!!!! (Or at least Egyptians allowing Noahides and Jews living in Israel to travel to Jerusalem to observe Sukkot..... which in some ways is also pretty astonishing as well)?????!!!

    Wow!!!!!!!!!!


    I am often in error on many topics... but the older that I get the more that I see hidden meaning in all of this.... and for all that I know two hundred million Messianic Gentiles / Messianic Jews from China and Asia may soon march to Jerusalem and build the Jewish people the Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight temple complex........ after China becomes a democracy or republic.......... and allows freedom of religion........ all these prophecies have hidden levels of meaning in them that are super positive......
     
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    It sounds perfectly bigoted and ignorant.

    How come you liberals reserve your venom towards religion only for Christianity and never Islam?

    You are the same people who thought that voting for Joe Biden would be a good idea. So you should probably be careful casting those stones
     
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    I suppose it's not a good idea to mock Islam because it could be extremely hazardous to your health.

    Mocking Christianity is most likely to get you prayed for.

    Mocking Islam can get you decapitated
     
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    I hate all religions, quite frankly.

    Remember what Tom Paine wrote in his book The Age of Reason, "All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit."
     
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    So link me to your threads where you criticize the other ones... I'll wait
     
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    It was a good idea. It got Trump out of office. Or didn't you notice?
     
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    Yes because I've always wanted to pay more for everyday goods and services and things like gasoline....

    But at least we got rid of those mean tweets and that's what's really important...
     
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    Two points:
    1) It is so obvious, that believing a literal translation of everything written in the Bible is silly, that you get 0 intellect points, for taking that argument.

    2) If, however, you choose to show your superior intelligence, in this way, at least do the minimal required research of your topic, to not sound like an idiot. The only New Testament Books that are taken to contain actual quotes of Jesus, are the four gospels. The Revelation has no such basis, for that claim. Everything in that Book is surreal, and it is clearly not meant to be taken literally. It was, BTW, one of the last books accepted into the Christian biblical canon (I just read) and is still rejected by some churches, that derive from the Church of the East.
     
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    Mean tweets? Oh I forgot about those. I must've been distracted by the stealing of classified documents, the inciting of a coup attempt & near hanging of his own Vice President, the call to a state official about illegally "finding" 11,000+ votes, about overturning the election, about Russia-gate/Mueller report, being impeached twice, about pressuring a foreign leader to help find dirt on Joe Biden, decades of tax fraud & corporate fraud, university fraud, charity fraud, campaign donation fraud, 25 allegations of sexual assault ------- should I go on?
     
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    Yes please do.... With things that are actually proven and not Democrat Fabrications
     
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    Jesus Christ Said "I am Coming Soon."

    ~ For many of us not soon enough ... :neutral:
     

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