Should Israel crown Donald J. Trump as Moshiach ben Ephrayim?

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Should Israel crown Donald J. Trump as their constitutional monarch?

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  2. No

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  3. Well...... he would probably do that too for one shekel per year and he will do a lot for them...

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  4. Yes... recovering from the economic aspects of COVID 19 makes doing this worthwhile...

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  5. No.... Rabbi Alon Anava would be better.....

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  6. No... there is somebody else!

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  7. other... please explain in a reply....

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  1. DennisTate

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    This is actually a rather serious option because the history of WWII proves that a constitutional monarchy comes in really handy during a time of extreme crisis.

    COVID 19 has certainly put the world economy into a pretty serious economic crisis.

    Orthodox Jewish scholar and historian Mr. Yair Davidiy explains the logic for this possibility:

    https://britam.org/messiah.html

     
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    Theoretically a "Donald J. Trump Volunteerism Hour" and / or a "Donald J. Trump Volunteerism Dollar" and / or a "Donald J. Trump Volunteerism Shekel" could be used to pay off the national debts of both the USA as well as Israel.

    ..... Dennis Tate
    Central - Nova, N. S., B0J3C0, Canada
    April 20, 2021

    Mr. Donald J. Trump 45th President of the United States of America:

    Re: Proposal for the Creation of a "Donald J. Trump Volunteerism Hour" and / or "Donald J. Trump Volunteerism Dollar."

    Dear Mr. President:

    I myself attempt to do one thousand hours annually as a volunteer writer all over the internet troubleshooting serious problems. I taught English as a Second Language in Quito, Ecuador in 2001 and 2002 and some of what I write has my former students at La Escula del Futuro and Universidad Technologica de Israel de Quito in mind as I write but YOU SIR ARE IN MY OPINION THE NUMBER ONE VOLUNTEER ON THIS EARTH at this critical time in history!!!!!!!!!

    Last Saturday my wife had me listening to Prophet Robin Bullock and he predicted NEW MONEY because the old money had "cobwebs on it!"

    Dr. Cindy Jacobs predicted that the time was coming when the USA dollar and the Canadian dollar would go to par value.

    .... "The Constitution prohibits individual states from printing and issuing paper money as legal tender, but they are allowed to use coins as currency, said Gatch. Individual communities, however, are able to create their own currencies -- including paper notes. Anyone can do it -- as long as the money is easily distinguishable from U.S. dollars and values are tied to the U.S. dollar so that income remains taxable." (Blake Ellis, CNN Money, Local Currencies in the USA We Don't Trust, January 27, 2012).


    Dr. Kevin Zadai, Prayer Secrets Level 1, Warrior Notes School of Ministry, lesson 4 :
    ... "Jesus said that this unbelieving world is not going to accept you, but He said, “Do not fear, for I have overcome the world.” What is it that is bothering you today? You might not think that you have access to the Father, but it has been provided to you. You might think that you cannot just go to the Father and ask Him for something. The first thing you should ask the Father is to open your eyes. Your relationship with God is going to drive out fear. You have to grasp that God is not limiting you. He has never limited you. The Holy Spirit came on the Day of Pentecost and took the ceiling off. You can go as high and as far as you want.

    If you would believe, God would give you the ability to completely pay off our national debt. God has a way of paying off our debt in our country. There is a way to do it. God knows that secret. But instead of focusing on our country, what about focusing on your bills? What does the Holy Spirit want to tell you by pulling back a veil that will cause you to be debt-free within the year? That will happen if you believe. The Holy Spirit has so much more for you, but you have limited Him. Because you have limited Him, He can’t speak to you. Because of that, people that are prophetic can’t come to you and confirm what God has said because you won’t hear it.

    You can trust God. Relationships that you are having trouble with can be resolved tomorrow morning. If you accept what God is saying, the Spirit of God will enforce a blessing in your life to the point where you will see your family members and friends start to respond. " (Dr. Kevin Zadai, Prayer Secrets Level 1, Warrior Notes School of Ministry, lesson 4 )

    This message will be going out to dozens of your support groups all over the internet soon and it is important to know that I believe that this must be accomplished from the nation of Israel for many reasons. More information on this can be found at:

    "After the Abraham Peace Accord turn deserts green..."
    on politicalforum .com by DennisTate.

    God bless you and keep you Sir!

    Shalom from Nova Scotia, Canada.

    Dennis Tate

    p. s. Other than for the aspects of this that will be done from the nation of Israel much of this can be accomplished from the two cities of Edmonton and Calgary Alberta..... and Red Deer, Alberta that is pretty much in the middle between these two cities. Sir.... please consider you and Mr. Michael J. Lindell producing a semi-reality science fiction film series set in the time of Premier Bible Bill Aberhart?
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...off-in-one-year.580877/page-5#post-1072579212
     
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    Assuming the validity or at least partial validity of the Gilgul Cycle..... if I were to guess who the Patriarch Judah might have reincarnated as.... (or should I say that the over- soul or higher dimensional hard drive of Judah was used to record the identity of a later person in scripture).... .I would guess the Danite Judge Samson.

    This is partly due to both Judah and Samson getting into trouble with women in the town of Timnah.

    Genesis 38:13
    If I were to guess who Mr. Donald J. Trump might have been in a past life.....
    my guess would be Judah and then Samson......

    ... and according to Orthodox Jewish scholar and historian Mr. Yair Davidiy we Irish are partly descended from the Tribe of Dan. Perhaps Ireland should grab Mr. Donald J. Trump first..... and then let Scotland grab him..... .and then London....... and then later the nation of Israel???????????


    If I were to make a wild guess as to who Mr. Michael J. Lindell might have been in another time and place.... I would tend to suspect the Patriarch Dan!

    https://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/39.htm


    Since the Latter day Saints already have a campus in Jerusalem they are in a special position to act as ambassadors between Jews and Christians and Muslims.


    http://cjccf.org/multiple-mortal-probations/
     
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    Ezekiel 21:27
    "I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him."

    So basically as Mr. Yair Davidiy explains it......
    ....(if my memory serves me correctly)..... daughters of King Zedekiah of Judah.... in the time the prophet Jeremiah.....
    arranged a marriage of one of them to the Zerahite King of Ireland.....
    (a descendant of the slightly younger twin brother to Pharez the son of Judah and Tamar ).....
    and the Throne of King David was transferred from Jerusalem to Ireland, (I think Tara)...and then on to
    Scotland and then on to London.................

    .... so now...... it is overturned one more time to Jerusalem.......
    and Prophet Kim Clement identified Mr. Donald J. Trump as a "David!"

    Did something extremely significant happen in the life of Mr. Donald J. Trump before November of 1996?????
     
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    Yes they should, but according to their law he is an adulterer...Is that okay?
     
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    That is an excellent question?????

    One possible option might be for a bunch of Israelis to put together some sort of "Moshiach ben Ephrayim film production Kibbutz Ltd." and the legal loophole of his playing out the role in an "artistic" manner should handle that little difficulty?!
     
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    These guys are Orthodox curly bangs kinda Jew and they are pretty strict..I mean, they sell sex sheets in their catalogs of marriage counseling magazines.
     
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    Good point.......
    my suggestion would be for a poll to be done with Rabbi Alon Anava, his wife and children.......
    if Rabbi Alon Anava would sit on this throne during the interim......
    in order to protect Mr. Trump and his family until all of the legalities and particulars can be figured out.........

    My prediction is that more than eighty percent of Rabbi Alon Anava's family would be willing to risk their lives to try their best to protect the many who since 2015 has done such an impressive audition for the role of Messiah son of Joseph / Yosef or...... Moshiach ben Ephrayim, (Ephrayim was the youngest son of Joseph/ Yosef).

    So... Rabbi Alon Anava as "Interim Monarch Moshiach ben Ephrayim".... could be a good opening gambit for all of this?!



    Rabbi Alon Anava - His Life After Death experience - Amazing New lecture!

    ....
    I've listened to probably hundreds of hours of lectures by Rabbi Alon Anava over these past few years and frankly I believe that he and his family would be unanimous in being willing to risk their lives to try their best to protect Mr. Donald J. Trump and his family.

    Soon... a new proverb will be created..... "King David will pay for it!"
     
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    Who gives a s***?
     
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    Anybody who would like to see the USA and / or Israel operating with a budget in the "black" as opposed to a budget that is in the "red."
     
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    They will also need to ask him to drop his britches cause they don't take yer word for it.
     
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    I am pretty sure that he can handle that........


    https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/ot/2-sam/6?lang=eng
     
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    Dennis, I don't know what you did but this thread of yours has an unreal number of views: 27,459 so far, and it was just made today! You're a star!

    But I had to vote no. The state of Israel is a democracy. I don't see or want them to throw away a representative government for a kingdom. Especially not one lead by Trump.
     
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    The evil perverted pretenders/usurpers who now maliciously occupy/rule God's ancient holy land are antichrist Edomites... NOT Israelites !!

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    What I did was put the opening post on about ten President Trump support groups on Mewe where bots could not stop the discussion from going viral under these rather extreme circumstances at this unique time in history.

    I am of the belief that moving a significant percentage of the USA film industry to parts of Israel can play an important part in saving the economy of both Israel and the USA. Here is an intriguing prediction from just over ten years ago that has off the scale "Artistic Value" that can be transformed into educational value, diplomatic value and yes....... ECONOMIC VALUE for both the USA as well as the nation of Israel!



    https://sordrescue.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/04-28-11_commander_in_chief.pdf
    Mr. Mark Taylor :
    https://sordrescue.com/

     
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    Back in 2014 the gifted Kim Clement gave the name "David" to President Donald J. Trump and described him fulfilling a role much like Moshiach ben Ephrayim / Messiah son of Joseph / Yosef.




    PROPHECY! Trump? “My David I have set aside for this Nation!” Kim Clement

    https://britam.org/messiah.html

    Messiah son of Joseph ruling over the Lost Tribes of Israel indicates his living in another nation other than Israel.

    https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/101747/jewish/Appendix-II.htm

     
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    There's only one Savior-God. Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

    People interpret the Tanakh to believe that the Messiah is a mere man but the Bible never teaches that. https://www.compellingtruth.org/what-does-Messiah-mean.html

    Zechariah 12:10 mentions the second coming of the Messiah. https://www.compellingtruth.org/second-advent-Messiah.html

    Zechariah 14:4 is a prophecy that mentions the second coming of the Messiah and it says that the Messiah is God. https://www.gotquestions.org/Zechariah-14-4-second-coming.html

    The Messiah is God. Isaiah 53 doesn't mention Israel and it doesn't mention that the Messiah will be a mere man. The belief that the Messiah will not be God incarnated has to do with has to do with a misunderstanding of the Trinity. https://wyattgraham.com/hearing-the-trinitys-voice-in-the-psalms/

    The Messiah is the Son of God. https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-Son-of-God.html

    Rabbis used to wonder if there would be two Messiahs because He was spoken of as both a Suffering Servant, coming to remove the barrier of sin from between people and God, and as a Conquering King, coming to deliver His people from worldly oppression. But they were reading about two visits of the same Messiah. One down, and one to go!

    First the Messiah came to remove the barrier from between man and God, and He will return as a military and political leader. People confuse two visits of the same Messiah with Messiah Ben Joseph and Messiah Ben David. https://enduringword.com/bible-commentary/zechariah-14/ .
     
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    Yes, after all he is the chosen one?!!

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    We are living in a time period when the nation of Israel
    is facing a time of rather extreme division but......

    there are ways to bring Israel and the USA together unlike ever before.....
    imagine a semi-reality science fiction film series...... combined with a reality
    film series......and in a way all eight million Israelis may become stars in these films

    ..... and at least one but better yet TWO TEMPLES are like stages on which
    these reality films and a number of these semi-reality science fiction film series are focused
    on!

    The gifted Robin Bullock stated recently that the youngest women in the I. D. F. will be
    made stronger than any ten soldiers from any nation who wants to kill Israelis!

    All that President Trump has to do to fit the ancient description of "Moshiach ben Ephrayim" the Gentile Cyrus type is promise to try his best to arrange for the building of
    at least one Jewish Temple........ or perhaps two if necessary..... . and because he managed to
    shift the USA Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem the entire Jewish nation already know that
    President Trump is a man of his word!

    Could there be two Jerusalem Third Temples?

     
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    Thank you for this well thought out post that does a good job of summarizing the view on all of this that the majority of Christian Theologians seem to have but.........

    back in 2010 I ran into an article on a "Christian Political Cyrus" by a near death experiencer from Uganda that struck me as being brilliant and truly insightful. ..... but as you can see...... not at all politically correct!

     
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    I believe that the Old Testament says that the Messiah is the Son of God and Judaism follows what rabbinic tradition teaches about the Messiah instead of what the Old Testament says about who the Messiah would be. https://www.answering-islam.org/authors/shamoun/messiah_sonofman.html

    Only God saves. The Messiah is God. https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-Son-of-Man.html

     
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    The temple will be rebuilt when the Messiah returns. https://beginningandend.com/all-israel-shall-be-saved-the-end-times-salvation-of-israel/

     
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    If I were to choose an actor to play the role of the final Elijah in an actual
    reality plus semi-reality science fiction film series set in Israel surrounding the events of the time
    of the two witnesses..... I would choose Pastor Rick Joyner partly because of the astonishing message from

    The Patriarch Adam that he was given in his book The Call...... (I am assuming that the final Elijah might well be one of
    the two witnesses).

    https://vimeopro.com/vfndc/final-quest-the-call-the-harvest/video/415231662
    ★★★ THE CALL ★★★ —BY RICK JOYNER— {NARRATED BY MORNINGSTAR PUBLICATIONS}


    Here is the man who I would suggest as the second of the two witnesses... .because he also has a massive "Elijah" calling on his life and a section in his book The Gift of Honor entitled Boulder Flats.... helped to prepare him for that role.


     
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    The time of the two witnesses is when Jesus will be the political figure Messiah that the Jewish people are expecting. The Old Testament doesn't say that the Messiah and Suffering Servant because it's a limited document that can't say everything about everything, but it gives a messianic profile. https://beginningandend.com/all-israel-shall-be-saved-the-end-times-salvation-of-israel/

     
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    True... but two witnesses are sent before Zechariah chapter fourteen can be fulfilled and there is a powerful statement by Messiah Yeshua - Jesus that should inspire Christians to take Ezekiel chapters forty to forty eight, (especially chapter forty seven), very, very, seriously!


    "Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:" (Luke 24:25)
     

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