Jihadis face execution without trial in Syrian jails as Assad says foreign ISIS members will be hang

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now you are trying to demonize me - for posting what Galbraith said. You can not handle the reality that Reagan supported Saddam so you are lashing out at the messenger.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Absolutely not. Try to calm down the paranoia.

    I know precisely what Reagan hoped to gain from Saddam.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now you are projecting. "Projection is a psychological defense mechanism in which individuals attribute characteristics they find unacceptable in themselves to another person"

    The US - under Reagan- supported Saddam. Your claim that Saddam was not supported by the US is a patent falsehood.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The French supported Saddam as did the Russians. Now you want me to believe Reagan did it with no proof of any kind. Amazing.

    Say, if the official policy was to support Saddam, why did Bush 41 who had been his VP decide to invade Iraq? A full blown invasion is not my idea of supporting Saddam.

    Your rude talking down to me is like a barking dog with no teeth.
     
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    HoundofHades Member Past Donor

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    Reagan was a very naive president: he even dedicated one of the space shuttle missions to the Taliban. Watch Bitter Lake - it's all there.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have given you all kinds of proof - and there is much more. Your claim that the US was not supporting Saddam during the Iran Iraq war is akin to denial that water is wet.

    The proof given you so far - you have dismissed with ad hom fallacy. attacking the messenger rather than addressing the message.

    There is simply no point in continuing with someone who exists in such mindless denial ...

    I have asked you to state one thing from the sources given that was not true. Not one thing did you come up with ... just continued ad hom fallacy ..

    Wiki is all False - ignoring the fact that sources are given - so you are claiming the sources are false. but giving no examples of anything false.

    I give you a more specific source . Peter Galbraith - fellow who witnessed the gassing of the towns in and authored the prevention of Genocide act .. a bill which passed the Senate with bipartisan support. - commenting about well established specifics in relation to US support for Iraq .. economic support - logistical and intelligence support during the war.

    Your response is to twirl around ranting and raving about how Galbraith is this and that .. never once giving one example of anything presented that was not true.

    This is a mindless circle jerk you are engaging in. See post 194 for enlightenment.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I detail a little of Rotten Ronnie's history in post 194.
     
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    Well, I think we should hope before applauding that the guys he's hanging are for sure members of the cult. If they confess or are caught in a battle, it's easy enough to know.
     
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    Probably?
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Donor

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    That 'naive' President Reagan did more good for the US than any other president. He pulled us and the world out of the recession, and increased the arms race knowing the USSR could not keep up. When his papers were opened after his death, they realized that Pres. Reagan was the author of all his speeches - and they were brilliant as were his jokes.

    To say all these accomplishments came from naivete, would be as foolish as the Democrats when they called his economic policies; 'voodoo' economics. Yet those voodoo economics gave us and the world a prosperity that lasted for decades.

    After Reagan's death scholars even began wondering if our measures for intelligence is accurate, since he hadn't attended an Ivy League College nor was he a Rhodes scholar like Clinton. Yet it was Clinton's policies of giving federal grants to schools that led to the moral decline in our society and the break down of families.

    It was Clinton who destroyed the independent press by allowing them to be bought up by 6 corporations, so that they could control people's minds. Clinton was also the one that allowed GMO's, and also the first American president to trample on international law when he bombed Belgrade for 78 days under false pretenses. By doing so, we turned into a criminal nation and restarted the Cold War with Russia.







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    "You will know the tree by the fruit it bears."

     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It should shock Americans to learn that a good many Democrats still support Communism.


    I classify FDR as naive as was Kennedy.

    Why FDR? Though he decried Hoover's policies, he turned around and then adopted much of the Hoover agenda.

    Though he approved the economics of Hitler, he did not scream enough to arm this nation to prevent war. Rather our Army was at it's lowest level of strength since perhaps the Civil War. So in effect he was baiting Hitler and Japan into war with us.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is standard tactics for Democrats. To slur our presidents who were Republicans. So let them be aware that is a two edged sword of words.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I handed to this forum the most extensive study of each of your points along with many many more that told the Reagan story with no anti Reagan bias. Some participants in the book that were used for the research clearly did not like Reagan. And they are included in the book.

    So you ignored a top ranked book of 622 pages. I offered you scholarship and got back typical Democrat party hate for my trouble.

    Reagan: The Man and His Presidency ... - Amazon.com

    https://www.amazon.com › Reagan-Presidency-Deborah-H-Strober

    Amazon.com: Reagan: The Man and His Presidency (9780395771938): Deborah H. Strober, Gerald S. Strober: Books. ... There are many memorable quotes, e.g., this from Reagan's press secretary Lyn Nofziger: "[Secretary ... Hardcover: 622 pages; Publisher: Houghton Mifflin; 1st edition (June 1, 1998); Language: English ...

    Reagan: The Man and His Presidency
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    Deborah and Gerald Strober have interviewed more than one hundred key players of the Reagan years, not only the president's closest friends and advisers but also some of his most vocal detractors. The testimony of these witnesses is woven into a single narrative, at once a chronicle of national and international politics of the period and a fascinating composite portrait of the man at the center of events.
     
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    That may well be - but I am not a Democrat and even if I was you have not managed to come up with anything other than fallacious Ad Hom Gibberish (continued once again in this post) with respect to information that hands down refutes your false and nonsensical claim that the US did not support Saddam during the Iran-Iraq war.
     
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    Had you said rather that like other presidents Reagan used Saddam, I would then have agreed. Please, knock of your personal attacks.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You did not address a single one of my points with anything from this book you keep on yapping about. One of many written on Reagan.

    Twirling around and claiming " This book this book" - without stating anything that is said in this book with respect to points being made - is not an argument for anything.

    You continue to engage in this mindless and fallacious circle jerk.
     
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    I have not attacked you - You are the one that has been engaging in personal attack (aka Ad Hom Fallacy) against myself and the sources presented .. in fact that is all you have done.

    Now you are trying to project your issues on to me ... Help can be found here. https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/psychpedia/projection

    "Projection is a psychological defense mechanism in which individuals attribute characteristics they find unacceptable in themselves to another person."
     
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    He can now mixed up rebels and isis, it's a very good political tool and is quite handy.
     
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    As a Brit I didn't follow every nuance of his presidency; I was mainly referring to his naivete in Afghanistan policy. If you've ever watched Bitter Lake - and it's an acclaimed record of the Afghan war, and western naivete in its prosecution - you'll have noticed how the Talibs were running rings around America and the UK; even the Afghan kids were laughing at us. But leaving aside for the moment the Shuttle dedication thing, how the 'elders' couldn't believe how ludicrous it was that someone would dream up the idea for the them watch a David Attenborough wildlife documentary, and how they all left the building it was set up to be shown in shaking their heads in disbelief. He was a good cowboy though! :mrgreen:
     
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