Joe Biden Refuses to Listen to Experts, Rejects Travel Bans amid Coronavirus

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  1. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    He's pretty wrong on this. Border closings are necessary right now.
     
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    Stuart Wolfe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "But - but - but - but - but Trump!"

    Is whataboutism all you got?

    Not a good look.

    Meanwhile, Quid Pro joe30330 has shot himself in the foot once again.

    See, I notice that you're not defending Biden on this - not that I blame you, there IS no defense against what Biden said. I mean, seems to me that if there's a virus originating from elsewhere, the last thing you'd wanna do is allow traveling from other countries here, especially since everyone else out there is shutting down just about any event out there. Heck, the nursing home that takes care of my mother-in-law just went on lockdown and there's no visitors allowed until further notice so I guess people are taking every precaution. Why Quid Pro joe30330 wants no travel bans is a bit of a puzzler. I mean sure, the easy answer is dementia because Trump's response seems to be a pretty sane one. Which is odd, since he usually doesn't sound sane, but he's right and Biden is wrong here.

    What's your response gonna be?

    1) This won't change one vote? (insert emoji here)
    2) People who don't like it are free to not vote for him? (insert emoji here)
    3) So what who cares? (insert emoji here)
    4) Deflect to Trump? (insert emoji here)
    5) Other cliché response? (insert emoji here)
     
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  3. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What if you are a globalist who does not believe in borders?

    Could that idea lead to the spread of a pandemic?
     
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    Zero.
    This virus has been spread most effectively by people on planes, who are travelling in a declared and legal fashion (except for those on cruis ships, once again, not really a hotbed of illegal iùmigrants). I don't know if it was you or some other poster who was trying to argue that last year 1200 illegal chinese immigrants had been arrestedlast year "some of them" coming through mexico, trying to link the virus to illegal immigration, but here is the truth: 3 000 000 people travel from china to the states every year in a legal and declared fashion.
     
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    How anyone could vote for someone that admits they will completely ignore tbe medical experts in a time like this and continue to allow open borders is beyond the pale.
     
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    You need to respect borders to close them.
     
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    You have no proof. That's the problem with people coming and going unchecked and unregulated at will.
     
  8. Junkieturtle

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    I think it could, certainly, if you're too unwavering.

    But I don't think being a globalist and being okay with shutting down borders during extraordinary situations where it even makes sense scientifically to do it have to be mutually exclusive.

    I think Biden is being more a contrarian here than anything else.
     
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    The political Left seems to get into the habit of cocking a political gun, aiming it at their own foot and saying, "It's for a short term advantage. So how much could it hurt?" Bam! Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeouch!
     
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    I don't know which is more sad, Biden being the best you got, or seeing you happy about him.
    Should have went with tulsi.
    Carry on.
     
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    Except it’s not at all likely that the virus came from folks walking across the border.

    Clearly they flew in and most likely from American travelers.
     
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    It gets more likely that it will happen every day. Wonder what will happen if an illegal tests positive for it?
     
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    There was never much support for Sanctuary Cities.

    It is estimated about 12,000 Chinese cross the border illegally last year.
     
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    I don’t agree.
    I think this thing is blown way out of proportion.
    My state is shutting down restaurants as of Monday morning till end of March. Stupid overreaction.
     
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    So do you support open borders during a pandemic?
     
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    I’m not a leftist.
    I support controlled entry for those who have a valid visa or who are from countries to which our door are open.
    I don’t agree with the media overhype and with government baiting to this hysteria. In my opinion Boris Johnson is the only leader of the west who made the right call.
     
  17. US Conservative

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    There is actually a large Chinese population in northern Mexico.

    Many are actually the descendants of the workers that built California rail systems.

    One thing that strikes you in TJ, Ensenada, and Mexicali is the large number of Chinese restaurants.
     
  18. US Conservative

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    California is shutting down its colleges and many schools-the response seems worse than the virus.
     
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    Hysterical that you attempt to quote "medical experts" and lead off with a strictly political appointment.

    But I agree with the few non-conservatives on this thread that Joe is likely wrong here... Many countries are implementing some form of travel restrictions and the US should be no different... As long as the restrictions are universal and not limited to Trump's xenophobic lists...
     
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    Correct, but importantly, legal travel can be stopped and if necessary those that entered legally can be traced. In this instance those that entered just pre-corona have been traced and quarantined where necessary. Through these contact traces others get quarantined or cleared.

    Epidemic 101.

    Here in Vermont, almost the entire investigative staff of state and local law enforcement / health departments / business regulatory agencies have been diverted to contact tracing.
     
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  21. US Conservative

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    Joe is of course wrong and behind the times.

    Meanwhile the actual experts are speaking here live...
    https://www.nbcnews.com/video/coron...age-news-on-the-covid-19-outbreak-80018501543
     
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    You have to hit play.

    Dr. Fauci just said that if Trump hadn't been so swift in restricting travel-that the US might have been looking like Europe.
     

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