Joseph Biden Used Independence Hall To Give A Campaign Speech!

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  1. JimfromPennsylvania

    JimfromPennsylvania Active Member Past Donor

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    President Joseph Biden's speech tonight at Independence Hall again shows that Joe is a character flawed man; this speech tonight was principally a campaign speech listing all his legislative accomplishment trying to give Americans a reason to stick with the Democrats this November. I have no problem with Joe campaigning he can do it to his heart is content as far as I am concerned but I have a big problem with him going to that hallowed ground where in 1776 fifty-six brave men put their lives, wealth and their families well-being on the line signing the Declaration of Independence and beginning the war to win freedom for the people of America! If you want to go there and talk about issues affecting the welfare of our nation fine but don't have this occasion be a partisan advocate event, many Americans hold Independence Hall as a very dear and special place where God poured torrents of grace on our people!

    One thing that President Biden does frequently that is wrong is that he paints the MAGA movement with far-right ideologies and Donald Trump antics. Yes Donald Trump started the MAGA (Make America Great Again) movement but that is where his connection ends; the MAGA movement is about a wholesome prosperous America. It is about the return of American manufacturing, middles class jobs, home ownership that is critical to wealth creation for building individual American families wealth, it is about stop teaching crap to our children like confusion on gender and that all white people throughout America's history are bad because they hold culpability for slavery and racial discrimination, it is about cleaning up the cesspool in Washington where people in Congress are working with the top priority of holding on to their job and for special interests not having the top priority of protecting and advancing the interests of the American people, etc.. President Biden and the Democrats want to trash the MAGA movement because if this movements wholesome values sits in the front of the minds of American voters the Democrat Party is in trouble because many if not the majority of Democrats politicians are atrociously terrible stewards of the American economy - the past two years clearly reveal this!

    There is far-right ideologies out there that are really bad but that isn't the bulk of the Republican party or the MAGA movement. An example would be these far right groups that want Secretary of States across the nation to be able to on their own throw out ballots because they believe fraud occurred and not have to prove it to a Judge and only have him or her make that determination. Most Republicans and Independents don't want this they recognize it as subversion of our democracy. This speech was President Biden trying for himself and the Democrat Party to use Donald Trump and the MAGA movement as a foil to move the public attention to this misbehavior and divert people's attention from the economy and the disaster the Democrats have made of it!

    President Joe Biden has spotty credibility on this election integrity issue. If he wants to talk about honoring elections he needs to recognize the legitimacy of Republicans concerns about no excuse mail in ballots and the result that this brings ballot harvesting and the unfairness of coercion or fraud in the filling out of significant number of these ballots - he should support a federal law which bans universal mail in ballots and requires compelling cause to vote that way. President Biden should have taken this speech as an occasion to support the bipartisan Senate Bill to protect the electoral college count to stop shenanigans with politicians that want to subvert the legal process by coming up with their own slate of electoral college delegates. President Biden needs to stop with his frequent spiels that the January 6th incident is proof Republicans don't want to accept outcomes of election where they don't like the result the January 6th incident is a failure of law enforcement specifically the Capitol Police authorities even a responsible regular citizen knows you should have had fences or barriers protecting the Capitol on January 6th when at the Ellipse that day (only blocks from the Capitol) you are having the President having a rally with tens of thousands of Angry Americans that believe the election win was gotten by fraud!

    President Biden needs to stop acting like a partisan hack accusing Republican officials of calling for violence if the Department of Justice brings criminal charges against Donald Trump over mishandling of government records. What Senator Lindsey Graham said was not a call for violence but a warning that it will happen and he is correct it will happen so the Democrat Attorney General shouldn't do it. Wisdom from the Attorney General and President Biden should recognize that in the media extremism abounds on the left and the right and America has a significant number of people in our country that are not morally well grounded. Considering on the right side in America we have all these far right wing talk radio host and cable news hosts and people like Steve Bannon and groups like the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys who promulgate these beliefs in a Deep State in Washington and we need to disband the FBI because it is subverting our Democracy and other conspiracies and we need to have a revolution in America if the DOJ prosecutes Donald Trump so as to block him from running again and considering the DOJ did not prosecute Hillary Clinton for mishandling classified information the DOJ will set off one or more far right Americans and they will believe it is time to engage in armed revolution and violence will occurr, if America's leaders don't recognize that they aren't acting responsibly. Actually if President Biden was really on the ball he would send his White House Counsel over to the Attorney General and have a private discussion with him telling him the President needs to know when you are fully confident you have dispossessed Donald Trump of all government records the law requires him to turn over to the Federal Government because once that occurs President Biden will pardon former President Trump for all violations of government records law he committed during and after his Presidency. Because if the DOJ prosecutes Donald Trump for such law violations it will look to many Americans that the Democrat Party was using the apparatus of the federal government to take out a political opponent that is extremely popular with a wide swath of the American electorate egregiously undermining our democracy and this will likely eventually cause pay back activity as Republicans when they are in power use the Executive Branck to punish Democrat opponents! This would be a tragedy for our Democracy if this development were to transpire - so President Biden should nip this problem in the butt right now before long-term damage is done to the country!
     
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    lolololol one of the great speeches in american history, and totally appropriate for independence hall.
     
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    I don't doubt your sincerity in believing that. If that is what you see so be it. But that is not what the majority of Americans see. And I contend what you see is not a true reflection of what the MAGA movement has become.
    It is enormously difficult to speak of these things in ways that do not cause us to speak past each other because the set of beliefs MAGAites cling to are not widely accepted beliefs. Most notably, the belief Trump won the election. An election he lost by a decisive margin. The refusal to acknowledge defeat, and the attempt to reverse the outcome of the election are, as President Biden said, unique events in this country's history. Seminal moments from which all manner of anti-democratic impulses have come to the fore. None of which are wholesome values. Wholesome values don't include making threats of violence against civil servants who are election workers. Or members of law enforcement. Or elected officials. It is not a wholesome value to suggest violence is an appropriate response to an indictment of the former prez. In America, the appropriate response to losing an election is to work harder to convince voters your positions are better for the country. Not seeking to keep people from being able to vote.
    Needless to say, we have a very different perception of what the MAGA movement represents. I don't expect you to agree with the way I see it. Only to appreciate that mine is a valid point of view. One I believe more accurately reflects what is true.
     
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    I see a dictator ready to consolidate power in Joe Biden, that's what I see. He's the first President ever to frame his fellow citizens in a military light, and that's always the first step in consolidating power.
     
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    It was the most Nazi like speech I've ever seen in my entire life!
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A reaction like that tells me Biden was spot on.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    a comment like that tells me you support hate speech
    Of course you probably got excited when he started talking about Trump.
    Its still pretty pathetic Joe Biden can't make it through ONE speech without talking about The Donald.
    Maybe he secretly has feelings for him?
     
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    To summarize the political landscape, we have the "MAGA movement" (in your words) on one side versus the "BOWEL movement" on the other. The MAGA movement was all about building up our national security by upgrading our military equipment to state-of-the-art, sealing the border, making income tax more equitable by limiting state and local deductions that benefit the wealthy and boosting the standard deduction that benefits the poor and middle class, promoting and achieving energy independence, normalizing relations with trading partners by forcing them to adhere to the tenets of free and fair trade that we do, demanding security partners meet their GDP based funding commitments, and negotiating peace agreements between Israel and Arab nations.

    MAGA was massively successful right up until the Obama-Biden-Fauci flu developed under a project they launched in 2014 was unleashed against the US and the world.

    The BOWEL movement is the sh*t show we have experienced since Biden took office. It includes giving our military equipment to our enemies, inciting wars and perpetuating them by giving more weapons away; giving our southern border to the drug cartels so they can flood our neighborhoods with fentanyl gummies, supporting the Communist Chinese initiative to murder our young people. On day one, Biden placed restrictions on oil and gas production to make sure we could never scale up production to meet demand once the vaccine delivered in December 2020, before Biden took office, transformed the Obama-Biden-Fauci flu into a less debilitating disease. Biden funded the Russian attack on Ukraine by taking excess US production off the market which drove up the price Russia could get for its oil. When Biden dropped sanctions on Nordstream2, he launched Putin into a full blown attack on Ukraine, since delivering gas to Europe would no longer require a pipeline through Ukraine.

    To get through Biden's innovative movement will require tactics akin to distribution of poop maps that enjoy popularity wherever there are large concentrations of Biden supporters like San Francisco:
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    the maga movement seems to be "all about" building up our national security by flagrant disregard for national security.

    much like "we had to destroy the village in order to save it," the maga movement strives to protect the constitution by placing trump beyond all checks and balances including defeat at the ballot box.
     
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    Why did you not provide an actual example of your claim? or just talking smack ?
     
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    CAMPAIGN SPEECH.....!!!!!

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    France took one look at Semi-Fascist Biden giving the blood red speech and promptly surrendered.

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    No it had a major flaw, Biden* had Marines flanking him, that was inappropriate. He should have had 2 of his Taliban allies flanking him.
     
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    did you see that in Trump, as Trump actually tired to do that
     
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    Trump was the one that made deals with the Taliban, gave them over 5000 Taliban Prisoners and gave them Afghanistan
     
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    trump surrendered to the taliban, or has that already been erased from your partisan history?

    trump frequently used military as props at his stream of consciousness rants.
     
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    Not really, but I'm glad you brought up the incident because the incident too had a heavy hand in Philadelphia. In the wake of George Floyd's murder, domestic terrorists set out about attacking civilians of this country. These attacks were widespread and had caused millions in damages to the US. It resulted in 'CHAZ', so while we're on the topic of those who don't recognize government there was for a time an attempt at secession for the first time since the civil war. It ended up being a crime ridden, infested and dangerous place for those trapped within what was known as Seattle to live.

    Oh, and here in Philly where I live? We saw a successive run of bank machines deliberately exploding. Much like pipe bombs gate later during 1/6, I still don't know if anyone who bombed the bank machines had been brought to justice. The events exploded with the march onto the White House, a march that is routinely ignored now but involved pushing white house security forces.

    Again, who doesn't recognize the government? Initially, Trump wanted these governors to actually, you know govern. But we saw the tapes of former governor Lori lightfoot in Chicago where she basically shrugged her hands, the other democratic governors did the same. Apparently, those in charge with governing our states were content to sit and watch, while the entire country burned.

    Then as President, Trump rightly decided it is his job to enforce national defense. As the case was for Eisenhower when protecting the kids to go to school.

    Later on, the FBI director would go on to give these destructive forces a pass and undermine what basically everyone read on twitter regarding ANTIFA. Even twitter itself had to lock those accounts calling for violence. But according to Mr.Wray, the secessionists and extremists don't exist. Yeah, sure.

    What happened during that civil unrest angered Trump and it angered myself. It showed that Washington had next to no respect for the CIC and the proper authority delegated to him. Trump's presidency is basically going to read as a 'who not to have in positions within the west wing and the executive branch'.
     
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    LMMFAO :roflol:

    Please cry more... :buggered:
     
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    Lol...no. He gave a warning about threats to our American democracy by extremists who want to install a seditious malignant narcissist as dictator and turn America into a theocratic dictatorship based on cult worship of one man.
    The new American terrorists should be aware that they will be brought to heel if they go too far.
     
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    Lol...projecting again, we see.
     
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    And that statement would have every founding father and true patriot in our history booing you if they were here. Joe's speech only appealed to the people dominated by hate for others who don't agree, with too little character to realize the enemy of themselves IS themselves. That kind of person salivates over crap like this.
     
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    i tend to disagree. biden talked about working with republicans and mentioned the difference between most republicans and the kind of maga extremist who might, for example, fly an airplane into a wal mart or similar violent stupidity.
     
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    To show the difference between the Democratic party and the Republican party one only has to look at their current leaders. Trump is and was rarely spoken of as a leader of the Republican party. Mention Biden and he will be linked as the leader of the Democratic Party. Trump is a dictator
     
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    yep, conservative tears means Biden is doing something right... at least that is what the right kept telling the left when Trump did something the left did not like
     
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    and the only people upset by Trump's speech were those dominated by hate, those that worship Trump and hate the left

    see we can both do that
     

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