Just how far in Advancement and Capability is the U.S. Military?

I own an M-1. The only rifle I like better is the British Lee-Enfield which is a really well balanced rifle. The M-1 is heavy, you're right about that. The 30.06 round can produce a solid recoil and the weight stabilizes the rifle; however lugging it around day and night in combat probably wasn't much fun. I have never heard of a scoped M-1, not saying it wasn't done however. It would have to be mounted either forward of or to the side of the receiver as the rounds are loaded vertically from the top.

 

You are correct, the U.S. Army Garands that had a scope were mounted forward of the receiver, they had to be able to load a clip into the magazine.

But today's scopes for M-1 Garands are mounted to the left side of the receiver if your right handed and to the right if your left handed.

You can google "M-1 Garand rifler scope" to Google Images and see examples of all of the different rifle scopes for the M-1 Garand.

https://www.google.com/search?q=m-1...a=X&ei=kaFsVbKIIcbhoATm-4PQBg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg

Some years ago "Guns and Ammo" magazine asked the question, what was the best combat service rifle ever to be fielded in combat ?

The top three were the 30-06 Springfield 03, the 8 mm Kar-98 Mauser and the 303 Enfield Mk lV.

The 303 Enfield Mk-lV came out #1.

One of my uncles was a professional hunter/tracker who contracted out to states and also in Canada to track down mountain lions, bears and other wildlife that became a pest and had to be eliminated. His rifle of choice was a WW ll surplus 303 Enfield that was sporterized. It was also his deer rifle he used during deer season.

 

I see, so the continuous warfare, the ineptitude of congress, the questionable rationale, the highly questionable results, the outrageous corruption, the clustermuck of post combat management, the classic ROEinhibitions, have NOTHING to do with armed forces morale.

But feel free to regurgitate rumours and anecdotes without a shred of evidence to actually support it. Given how many times the right believes this President has broken the law, its a wonder that nobody on the right has the balls to follow up those criminal accusations with legal action. (oh right, how's Boehner's lawsuit going?)

 

So? My point was that any organization that has an annual budget of over $600 billion should be able to manage itself and meet the national security needs of the entire planet, let alone a single nation.

to put it in perspective, that $600+ billion is about equivalent to the entire GDP of Saudi Arabia, the 20th largest gdp on the planet.

 

According to Military Times the reason for a 30 point drop in morale of the military under Obama's command are for being used for social engineering and the lack of respect from Obama and his administration of those who wear the uniform and serve.

Obama's approval rating as CnC by the military is at 15%, the lowest of any other CnC in history.

 

Best rifle one hates to carry....actually that two hate to carry if your using the quadrapod and the computer sensors and screen.

Barrett .50 Cal M82....and all it's varients....I never leave home without several of them.

This weapon holds the record for a kill at distance.

When we had to be at a MEET AND GREET....and they were to announce the location just hours before we were to do a meet and greet....I would make a calculated GUESS at where such a Meet and Greet would take place and depending on the place....actually I always had a pretty good idea where they would decide to meet.

So I would send two of my Team Members at least 1 to 2 days ahead of the announcement to where I thought the meet and greet would be and set up under cover and hidden and I would have 2 Team Members with M82's held in reserve just in case I guessed wrong where the meet and greet would take place.

I only guessed wrong once.

Thus before the other side would send their men to hide under cover I would already have at least one of my Snipers set up at CLOSE RANGE and close range for an M82 could be considered 500 to 750 yards when you have it mounted on a Quadrapod and are using all Computer Sensors and Screen.

The computer even takes into account the Coriolis Effect of the EARTH!!!

Newer software and harware allows a newer variant of the Barrett M82 to have a Magazine that can hold 88 .50 Caliber Rounds and you now can set these M82 Variants up and you don't need a person there to pull the trigger as it can be done remotely.

As well custom .50 Caliber Rounds for this weapon are available such as .50 Cal Rounds with Explosive Tips, Shot Gun like pellets inside the .50 round that are made out a number of materials including Teflon or other material coated High Grade Tungsten Steel Alloys thus they kind of work like BUCKSHOT....only they can penetrate a brick or concrete wall and kill just about everyone in a 12 x 15 foot room as not only are the Tungsten balls goint to kill people so is the pieces of brick or concrete they spray into the room.

The Newest Round I have heard of although I have never used it is a .50 Cal. Round that is in fact a SABOT ROUND as the when this round is fired inside the round is what would appear to a person to be a thin DART with STABALIZING WINGS.....as the....in this case I think the Dart is surrounded by the round and the round falls away in 3 or 4 pieces to allow the Sabot Dart with it's fins to travel at amazing velocities.

So fast that it is said....and I have never seen this so I don't know for certain....it is SAID this Barrett M82 .50 Cal. Sabot Round CAN PENETRATE UPGRADED RUSSIAN T-72 EXPLOSIVE REFLECTIVE ARMOR IF DIRECTLY HIT!!!!

The concept is the Barrett .50 Cal. Sabot Round Dart is traveling at such a high velocity and is so much smaller than say a Tank Round hitting Russian Explosive Reflective Armor that the Reflective Armor is PENETRATED faster than it can react.

The standard .50 Cal Round used for the M82 is already cabable of taking out light armored vehicles engines...etc.....and when one of these rounds hits an enemies head....well the head just EXPLODES right off the body but attempting a head shot with this weapon is unnecessary because I don't care how much Body Armor the Enemy Soldier is wearing....a .50 Cal Round will punch a hole through the building wall the enemy is hiding in then punch a big hole right through the body armor and the body of the enemy then punch a hole out the other side then if another Enemy Body Armor Soldier was standing behind him it would do the same to the second man and even a third and fourth and then probably exit ou through the back wall of the building.

Using both IR-LIGHT and MICROWAVE DETECTION SENSORS we can see and hear right through buildings, Jungle Canopy, Snow and Ice, Ship Hulls....you name it!!!

The Barrett Company which is Family Owned at least last time I checked....and has FATHER AND SON working on making the best Riffles and Assault Rifles on the Planet.....is currently making a NEW ASSAULT RIFLE TO REPLACE THE M-16, M4 AND VARIENTS OF.

This Barrett will be designed to fire a slightly larger round than the 5.56 or .223 Remmington as they intend to design both the rifle and the ammo to be just as LIGHT AS THE 5.56 rounds but what will be different is PENETRATION POWER THROUGH JUNGLE CANOPY.

This was a problem in Vietnam as an AK-47 could get soaking wet....dropped in the mud....banged around....AND STILL FIRE...but the PROBLEM with the AK-47 is it uses a HEAVY ROUND and a Soldier could not carry around anywhere near the amount of Ammo that a U.S. Soldier using an M-16 could.....yet the AK-47's Ammo could easily penetrate Jungle Flora and Fauna where as the M-16 round had difficulty doing this as well U.S. Soldiers would always take a small piece of Plastic and put it over the firing end of the rifle and use a RUBBER BAND to prevent dirt, mud and water from getting in as the early versions of the M-16 proved to be difficult to maintain.

Current M4 and M-16's are much less prone to jam as well in the hands of a PROFESSIONAL SOLDIER as the U.S. Military is COMPLETELY VOLUNTEER....it is a surgical weapon that can kill the enemy at much further distances than either the AK-47 or AK-74.

But along comes this new Barrett Assault Rifle.....using a combination of a light weight SUPER DURABLE RIFLE with AMMO that is light but due to the material the ammo will be made of...and to this date it is a tightly guarded secret as it is inexpensive as far as the materials that make up the round but the technique to make such a round capable of penetrating Juncle Canopy and having the same if not greater KNOCK DOWN POWER as the heavier AK-47 Round plus still keep the HIGH RATE OF KILL CHARACTERISTICS that come with the M-16 or M4.

I was shot several times after making a REALLY STUPID MISTAKE....and I THANK GOD I was shot by a guy using an AK-47 rather than an M-16 or M4.

The super high velocity of spin of an M-16 or M4's 5.56 Round when it impacts flesh and bone well that high rate of spin translates into the round TUMBLING INSIDE THE HUMAN BODY causing an EXTREME AMOUNT OF TRAUMA and the M-16 and it's ammo was actually almost BANNED BY THE U.N. as a rifle considered to be CRUEL OF INHUMANE because even if a person just get's hit by a single 5.56 round out of an M-16 in the shoulder.....the super high rate of spin and velocity translates into the round tumbling inside the body and a person who had been shot in the shoulder, leg, arm or any part of the torso.....MOST PEOPLE SHOT WITH THIS WEAPON AND ROUND DIE!!! Just from a leg shot.

The AK-47 is a heavier round and when I was shot the rounds went THOUGH AND THROUGH except one but it did not tuble or shatter upon hitting bone and the Doc's were able to remove the round whole!!!

Had I been shot by an M-16 or M4...I would have died right then and there.

Barrett intends on putting out an Assault Rifle that will allow a Soldier to carry the same amount of ammo.....have a greater distance of effective range than the M4 and about the same distance of effective range of the M-16....but the material the ammo is made out of will cause massive trauma to any enemy shot as well will have a super high velocity and rate of spin but something to do with the material the round is made out of...and if anyone knows about this please post it or PM me because I have not been able to find out anything about it.....gived the round the ability to HAVE KNOCK DOWN POWER as well penetrate Jungle Flora and Fauna.

AboveAlpha......the Barrett M82....Don't leave home without it!

 

Are you 007 or something?

 

The Ford class carrier has some stealth features, it is not a stealthy boat. It has electromagnetic catapults, not magnetic levitation. RUssia has electromagnetic catapults in the works.

Since carriers where first created about 110 years ago, for the US to be 100 years ahead of other nations in aircraft carrier technology would mean no nation has or had carriers in the past 100 years. That's certainly not the case.

 

007 never had a Barrett M82!

Just that Walter.

AboveAlpha

 

Well the Catapult does rise above the rail so that would be Mag-Lev.

I suppose I could accept your second arguement but the amount of time it would take them to catch up is another matter to passage of time.

AboveAlpha

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Well, the differences between an M1 and an M16 is actually rather minimal. Training in how to strip and reassemble the weapon, and how the safety works and how to reload it and that is all somebody would need to learn. The basics of marksmanship are the same, no matter what weapon is used. Be it an M1903, M1, M16, or 870 shotgun. Sight picture, stock weld, and sight alignment - sight picture are the same for all of them.

Sorry, your point got lost somewhere.

We spend over 70% of our annual budget on welfare, social security, and medicare. Yet we still have people who are poor.

I guess you are one of those that feels that simply throwing money at a problem will always solve it.

 

To solve poverty make sure everyone can have a job that pays above the poverty line.

You can have more tariffs, more jobs & more expensive goods or you can have cheaper goods, less jobs & more taxes (increased welfare burden) or you can keep on printing more dollars & pray the petrodollar does not vanish (or fight a war to keep it).

 

Kind of like the old saying...

Good, Fast, or Cheap. Pick any two.

Of course, there is a big difference between "can have a job" and "is willing to work". A lot of people have simply checked themselves out of the labor market. For many of the homeless what is the solution, compulsory emplyoment? Force them to work on threat of imprisonment?

But forget about the "Petrodollar", different topic. That is simply a medium of exchange, not real money, completely different topic.

 

Australia usually has work for the dole(unemployment support) schemes when the conservatives are in power federally. It was supposed help ease long term unemployed people back into the job market.
The unemployed here now have to register with an employment agency to get unemployment benefits. In the US is it seven months max. you can get unemployment benefits? In Australia there is no time limit as long as you are actively looking for work.

Don't know what can be done about helping those unemployed people seriously affected by drugs short of coming up with some sort of vaccine that will stop them getting high.

I understand that a lot of the prisons in the US now run at a profit so if you were to throw the unemployed into prison until they learned a skill that would work. Jobs paying above the poverty line would still need to be there for them when they got out otherwise you could end up with a slave class that would work only in prison. The British empire used to send them to penal colonies in the US & then Australia.

 

According to this article the US army has had them sense the gulf war, is it the same one you are talking about or something else? The max. range of this one almost 5000 feet & very accurate.

Did not find a copyright or request on article so ok to post I think.

http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/slap.htm

 

Article from 2012 on the development of a guided SLAP round.

http://defensetech.org/2012/01/31/sandias-new-smart-bullet/

 

Apparently you do. My point is that $600 billion is MORE THAN ADEQUATE, and allocating even more money is exactly "simply throwing money at the problem".

How about finding efficiencies? NOT paying for unnecessary equipment , NOT paying to maintain antiquated weapons systems, NOT paying for dozens of unnecessary bases both in the US and around the world, NOT allowing outrageous cost overruns, NOT having skid loads of cash "disappear", the list is a long one and the waste and misapplication is rampant.

Perhaps you haven't heard of the budgeting strategy of spending to the limit in order to obtain more in the next budget cycle? It appears many elected representatives haven't.

 

Would you please list some of those "unnecessary equipment " ?

I can list a lot of equipment that was declared obsolete and scrapped when it wasn't obsolete and would have saved a lot of lives in Iraq and Afghanistan.

If it's new, it's not necessary better and if it works doesn't mean it's obsolete. But that been the thinking for the past sixty or so years.

The federal government main job is national security, to defend the nation and it's national interest abroad. Not food stamps or health care or studying the sex lives of the carpenter ant or homosexuals.

 

Yea, another post full of propaganda type sound bites, repeating the last, and absolutely no substance.

Sorry, but in case you do not know, I could not give a damn about politics, nor about political dogma. Come back some time when you actually want to discuss the actual issue, and not just play political word games. I have absolutely no use for that.

But please, since you think that we are wasting money on "antiquated weapons systems", then you should be absolutely fine with increasing spending on the modernization of our equipment, and the R&D costs and acquisition funds to replace much of our 30-50 year old equipment, right?

Look, you can't talk out of both sides of your face here. So to back up what you are trying to state, you must be in favor of spending large amounts of money to replace those "antiquated weapons systems" you yourself brought up. Everything from the HMMWV and PATRIOT to fighters, bombers, and ships. Because you loose all credibility if you complain about the age of our equipment, but are not in favor of replacing it with newer equipment.

 

A lot of our equipment is "functionally obsolete" because of pure and simple age.

Good example, the PATRIOT is the result of a 1960's era program, designed and tested in the 1970's, and fielded in the 1980's. And now 30+ years later it is showing it's age, big time. Bandaid fix upon bandaid fix, it is now patched and hobbled together with key components that really are obsolete.

To give an idea, there is a key component of PATRIOT that has not been made in over a decade. And the Army is actually buying replacement parts on E-Bay and other sites, because they are simply not available anywhere else.

Planned obsolesence is often part of things like this. And in 1999 when the last major upgrade to the fire control system was made, the Jaz Drive was chosen as the media to store this data. But now we are 16 years later, Iomega is long gone, and they have not made these things since 2002. But the fundung needed to replace it was cancelled, primarily because the replacement for PATRIOT was well along in development. It was expected that before this became a critical issue, PATRIOT would be on it's way out and MEADS would be taking it's place (with a new fire control system that could handle both MEADS and PATRIOT).

Well, MEADS was cancelled, so we are stuck with an antique with no money to do the upgrades.

 

I understand "functionally obsolete," old equipment has to be replaced.

A better example would be the CH-46 Sea Knight helicopter. Nothing obsolete about the CH-46 except they were old, they couldn't even carry the weight they use to when they were new. When I served you could put 25 Marines aboard, by the 90's the air frames were so old they could only carry a rifle squad.

But the CH-46 assembly line was closed down decades ago.

The Army's CH-47 Chinook isn't obsolete and they are still making CH-47's and the Army is still buying them. A helicopter that first flew over fifty years ago. I'm sure they have more than just a compass and a radio aboard, that's about all there was on a CH-47 back then.

The last CH-46 that served in Vietnam was sent to the bone yard about two years ago. The last CH-46 squadron was deactivated about two or three months ago, replaced with the V-22 Osprey.

Remember when they said that the .45 M-1911 A1 was obsolete ? The Marine Corps is going back the the single action semi auto .45 M-1911 A1. The only change, it has a rail to attach lasers and other accessories too. If you are properly trained on point aiming, you don't need a laser.