Kasich warns Republicans on ObamaCare repeal

apparently

 

Glad to hear you caught the cancer in time. Plus the 90 back coverage is a great service for those of us who now refuse to pay for ineffective Obama insurance.

 

Mine are 0. Thanks guys . They were 0 before Obamacare

 

nobody got a $33,000 bill due to obamacare. The out of pocket maximum for a family plan is in 2016 was $13,700.

So yes, anyone claiming a $33,000 medical bill under the ACA is demonstrably lying.

https://www.healthcare.gov/glossary/out-of-pocket-maximum-limit/

 

The same people who pay now

Recognize is spelt with a Z

Also English is spelt with a capital E

 

Thanks to gushing liberal Democrats, we've seen their wonderous President Messiah increase the national debt more during his eight years in office than in all of our history before him put together! The Welfare Circus has been running non-stop for almost twenty years under both Democrats and Republicans, and now it has reached a zenith with Obamacare. How "heartless" is it for fraud artists like Jonathan Gruber to cook up a deliberate pile of LIES like Obamacare for his radical Democrat masters to ram down our throats? So you have pity for the "takers", but no pity for the "makers"...?

You suggest that a person would need the income of Bill Gates to afford healthcare unless the government came barging in? How exactly has Obamacare changed that situation right now for most working American taxpayers?! Healthcare insurance premiums have SKYROCKETED in this country, and 'deductibles' have also increased to stratospheric levels. How did Obamacare lower medical care costs more working American taxpayers by $2,500 per year -- as promised by your wonderous President Transparency?!

The only people who have benefited from Obamacare are the ones who have been given huge amounts of "subsidies", or leveraged the system to get out of paying their own way in life in any amount. If people who won't or don't support themselves, and just lay around on their worthless asses, expecting other people to support them, then if they end up going off to "die in a ditch", then that is a CHOICE that they have made!

The only exceptions should be for people who, because of injuries, catastrophic diseases, birth defects, and things of that nature CANNOT support themselves. For those people, yes, the government should be obligated to put them on the dole and pay their expenses -- but only after rigorous, thorough examination of their circumstances to make certain they aren't lying and committing fraud to get welfare.

. It's a real mystery why Obama tried to deny that he even knew who Gruber is!

 

Any proof of that?

 

Think about it. He has a large farming family. Is it possible that he is paying for more than one plan? No. Couldn't be that.

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Right here, brutha.

 

no, he isn't paying for more than one plan. If he had more than one plan, one would be primary, and the other secondary. His out of pocket maximum, if this happened in 2016 is $13,700. $33,000 is demonstrably untrue.

 

I'm not a tea toting, cake eating, skirt wearing fire crotch who loves me some socialism. So bite me.

No I didn't.

No you aren't.

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Are you playing stupid?

 

Jesus, you're beyond dense. He pays for all of the plans in his family since they all work for him. Do you need me to hold your hand when you tinkle, too?

 

Asking you for proof is playing stupid. Post the proof that's all I asked.

 

They are only counting the deductible I think? As if he doesn't have a huge monthly premium to pay?

 

So you didn't hear about all the previous plans that were cancelled because they weren't compliant with obamcare's laws? Where were you at when that happened? I lost mine. I received a letter in the mail letting me know my plan would cease to exist at the end of that year. I don't have that letter anymore to show you. I figured you were intelligent enough to remember when that happened to so many who were upset because they were promised they could keep their plan. However, if you feel that I, and millions of others, are just lying for the fun of it, that's fine too.

Sad that I needed to explain this to you. You are following your fellow dems in this thread required letters that are years old and calling us liars.

 

This is true but the cost of the plans is rising

http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/04/news/economy/obamacare-affordable/

It should either be called the unaffordable care act or Obamadontcare

 

First of all neither party is mine, not the Jackass or the Elephant. You made a claim and I just asked you to post proof of it, which you have yet to do.

 

Yeah, I think you're right. Ole dense one is talking about deductibles. I shouldn't even bother with the lefties on this board. I've lived with good insurance and Obamacare. I know the difference. It's not good for Obamacare.

 

So what would suffice as proof for you?

 

Not quite the same thing g. Auto insurance is only required if you have an automobile. You don't have as much control over whether you live or not.

And if you have auto insurance, your rates are certainly affected by others. Poor driver's. People with a lot of tickets, older people etc ALL can affect what you pay.

The whole purpose of insurance is to have as many people paying as possible. This increases the pool of money the company has to pay claims and to also lower rates.

The only difference for health insurance is that unless you kill yourself, you WILl need it, and more frequently as you age a and/or your health declines. Makes sense to me to start paying now for what you will need later.

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Sorry, you got caught making (*)(*)(*)(*) up. He did not get a $33,000 bill under he ACA. That is a demonstrable lie.

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The MAXIMUM out of pocket for a family plan is $13,700. He didn't pay a penny over that.

 

That doesn't include premiums.

 

This is what happens when you guys try to discuss things you have no idea about. The deductible is part of what is paid out of pocket. The MAXIMUM out of pocket expense is $13,700. He didn't pay a penny over that amount.

Please, stop making (*)(*)(*)(*) up. You've been shown what the pay out is under the plan.

 

No, deductibles are paid to the healthcare providers, not the insurers. Obamacare is about the insurance aspect, not the providers. No one is making stuff up, we just didn't realize you were so uneducated on the topic. But as you were....

 

Combining his entire years prelim and the total out of pocket maximum, still doesn't add up to $33,000