Kissinger: Israel will not exist in 10 years

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  1. Jack Napier

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    What sort of majority?

    What sort of margin?

    Is the majority always right?

    And the minority to be ignored and written off?
     
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    When it's about 0.11 per cent recurring, yes.
     
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    Is it though?

    I believe it far higher.

    Third of Americans suspect 9-11 government conspiracy

    More than a third of the American public suspects that federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them so the United States could go to war in the Middle East, according to a new Scripps Howard/Ohio University poll.

    http://www.scrippsnews.com/911poll

    [video=youtube;MgABDdU7yD8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgABDdU7yD8&feature=related[/video]
     
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    A third of any population can be stupid and believe any old tosh at any given time. It doesn't mean they are right.
     
  5. Jack Napier

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    True.

    Neither does it mean they are wrong, and the two thirds are right.

    The two thirds may just have been brainwashed by that powerful media, that you are well aware of, a media that sets out to be a clear propaganda tool.
     
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    An inherently worthless thread hijacked by 9-11 truthers. From worthless to even more worthless.
     
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    You can suggest some pretty outlandish things in a poll, and ask if it is "somewhat likely" that its true, and get a surprisingly high #. 78% of Americans thought that it was "somewhat likely" that Saddam was involved in 9/11. I suspect about 33 of the 78% are the 1/3rd of Americans who will poll that almost anything you suggest is "somewhat likely". As well 33 of the 36% who believe it is "somewhat likely" that the US was involved or did nothing to stop 9/11 are those who will think anything you suggest is "somewhat likely"
     
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    Contribute something then.
     
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    You know, when the weak island nation of Great Britain asked for American aid against a similar insane fascist threat, we just gave them 50 destroyers on lease. We can do the same with B-2's, tankers, and bunker busters. A nuclear-armed Iran is not good for America. Now, I understand that you hate Jews, but do you want a nuclear-armed Iran too?
     
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    It does mean they are wrong if they base their conclusions on 0.11 percent of engineering 'experts'.
     
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    Oh read a book.

    Your lot did not come into until well into it.

    And, even then, only due to Japan.

    Nothing else.
     
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    Well, that would rather depend on where you got that figure from, and it would still not = that the official account is how it happened. What % of 'experts' in politics, tell the truth, or American news media, etc?

    You would have to factor in other issues, as well, such as the capacity to fly passenger planes, at that speed, at that level, into such targets.

    I'm not drawing absolute conclusions, you see.

    I've just seen enough to cast reasonable doubt on the offical story, and I know that it did not suit Americans, it did not suit Muslims, but it did suit Israel, and it did suit Neo Cons and their billionaire Jew buddies.

    I also know that those who give the formal narrative are proven liars.

    If they can lie over WMD's, why not this?

    If they can lie and cover up the USS Liberty, why not this?

    These are the worse of people, they lie all the time.
     
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    That's the problem when one is historically faced with known liars, one doesn't quite know what, or who, to believe about any number of issues. Fortunately though, for realists, and perhaps unfortuntately for denialists, 9-11 is not one of them. Lack of explanations as to the veracity of elements of, and gaps in, the official narrative does not entitle us to make unsubstantiated leaps of faith on the basis that such leaps of faith appear best suited to the denialist narrative in order that we may feel ideally placed to fill in the said gaps. It simply doesn't work like that my friend.


    Specifically, in relation to the collapse of the buildings, the fact remains that the vast majority of the respondents of structural engineers surveyed said uniquivocally that it was planes laden with jet fuel (that millions saw live on tv) smashing into them that was the catalyst for their collapse.
     
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    Start from the point that you would with any proven liars, of that scale.

    Dismiss all that they say, as it is likely going to be yet another lie.

    Then look for yourself.

    Don't dismiss the counter evidence that is brought forward, or the factors of means and motive.

    Don't dismiss the repetition of false flags, as a MO.
     
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    Fascinating.

    In what sense or in what way will Israel cease to exist?

    Anyone?
     
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    Would it upset you?
     
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    I have a highly critical and creative mind but there are limits. Believing that 9-11 was an insider job/mossad job or that the buildings were brought down by controlled explosives when I saw with my own eyes planes smashing into them, is the realm of delusion. This a guy who accepts that false flags have been undertaken in the past and that the US government/mossad have no moral threshold that they would not cross, but they did 9-11? - absolutely 100 percent, no way.
     
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    But why?

    Prior to the invasion of Iraq, most Americans would have said you were deluded if you did not think Saddam had WMD's.

    Even today, many think he did.
     
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    Actually he freely admitted he had WMDs.
     
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    Why? Because I am a rational thinker and 9-11 conspiracy theories are the height of irrationality.

    I can't speak for the deranged few who still cling to the notion that Saddam had WMDs. However, the fact that all rational and sensible people long ago concluded that he didn't, tells me that after a decade since 9-11, there ought to by now be a scintiller of evidence that 9-11 was an inside job. That after a decade there is no evidence whatsoever that there is, undercuts your assertions.
     
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    Where are they then?

    Because I seem to recall they found NOTHING.

    Whatever he had, had been destoyed, long ago.

    That was known.
     
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    Well, think rationally then, and don't dismiss the millions who may also be thinking rationally.

    I can't see why it would not make sense, to at least consider the matter, rather than merely take the state and their experts, and their word.

    What would it take to make you suspicous then?

    You said 100% NOT.

    So, what would it take to get you from 100% to maybe 75% or 50%?
     
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    Reality never stopped those racists and Jew haters and never will.
    Don't bother with those guys...
     
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    Racist.

    Jew haters.

    *Yawn*.

    You see, TMR, even looking at an alternative is 'racism'.
     
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    I think Israel will still exist, but they will probably have an Arab majority.
     
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