Komen to Stop Grants to Planned Parenthood Abortion Biz

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  1. churchmouse

    churchmouse New Member

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    I gave you factual information. PP was caught when Life Dynamics went undercover and exposed them. Why do you lie for them? Isn't the truth important? Do you want abortion legal so badly that you are willing for underaged children to be able to walk in and get an abortion without parental permission?

    No PP does mammograms on site that I have ever heard of..and I work in this business. They refer women to other places they can go. And if a few do mammograms it is few and far between….I have heard of none.

    But I will tell you what will happen now…..they have been exposed one more time…you will see them not implement this service into their abortion clinics.



    http://www.lifenews.com/2011/03/31/...ood-grants-questioned-after-mammogram-expose/
     
  2. churchmouse

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    Respected by those who condone abortion.

    Now how much do you think they get for each abortion? How much do ya think a pap test is or a manual breast exam? Practically nothing. You take away their abortion business and they could not open their doors. THEY COUNT ON ABORTION TO KEEP THEM AFLOAT.

    I am so sick of you pro-aborts trying to just ignore the facts on the table. The phone calls…the underthetable….videos that exposed PP are facts and true. You people just don't care…abortion is ok…and so is the rape of underaged little girls. Nothing was faked…about the phone calling…in fact many phone calls…were so bad that even PP stated that they TOOK CARE OF THE PROBLEM BY FIRING THE PHONE OPERATOR. So you deny it…but they don't for the most part.

    They make excuses…like you are.

    http://www.all.org/article/index/id/MjQ0NQ

    Here is something from PP.

    http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/02/planned_parenthood_employee_is.html

    Other lies….
    http://www.breitbart.tv/mammosham-planned-parenthood-ceos-false-mammogram-claim-exposed/

    And you think these are lies…..hey call yourself.

    And this exploded…when it happened. And it did happen. Underaged sex workers…abortions you name it. Illegals from out of the country….LMAO

    And this chick was NOT EVEN A NURSE.

    http://www.catholicvote.org/discuss/index.php?p=13933

    And more sex trafficking…in Virginia.



    http://gerardnadal.com/2011/02/03/l...linic-conspires-against-parental-consent-law/


    So again Komen donated the money to PP and they did what with it….they don't provide mammograms…….what do you think it went for?

    You need to get educated…because you don't know much.
     
  3. churchmouse

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    The PP CEO said they did mammograms…but they don't she lied.

    The only thing they provide is manual breast exams…..and the only way to truly detect cancer is not by doing this.

    I know first hand. I had a manual breast exam from my doctor. She said she felt nothing. Went and had mammo…it shows calcium…had to do two biopsies. No manual exam would detect this.

    Who knows what the money went too…it was not for mammograms.
     
  4. Cady

    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If PP doesn't do mammograms, then what was THIS about?

    http://www.plannedparenthood.org/ab...ncer-screening-arizona-women-572009-26895.htm

    Don't you think it's time to stop spreading the lies?
     
  5. churchmouse

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    This was not a Planned Parenthood mobile…unit it was not owned by them…it was from an outside source. PP does not do Mammograms on any facility. How many mobile units like this visit PP clinics?

    The CEO lied….and that is exactly why Komen pulled the plug. Don't you think they did investigating into this? What state are you from? I am going to call and see if they have testing in your state. I live in arizona I have already inquired into my state,,,,no office does them.

    That mobile unit goes to a lot of different places its not PP's mammo unit.

    This clinic is not even done at the PP clinic. PP can say whatever they want….to tie the funds to whatever they want. I am sure they would give directly to this mobile unit and bypass PP. Komen must have known what they were doing….because they DO NOT DO THIS SERVICE FROM PP CLINICS.

    PP performs abortions…and Komen has every right to stop funding. PP is a billion dollar industry….donations come from private sources and also from the government in the form of grants. They should not be able to force Komen to give to something regardless of the excuse they give…in fact they should not have to give any excuse whatsoever.
     
  6. MisLed

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    have you, mamooth ever gotten a mammogram at a PP center? Where the info comes from is SGK and PP itself. Now i understand that is not enough to show a leftist the truth of the matter. so. Nevermind.
     
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    Um, Cady, the mobile unit is not PP property. It is Koman's or an outside groups. PP does not do mammograms. Otherwise they wouldn't require an outside vendor to produce the unit for the mammograms.

    PP refers women for mammograms.

    It's time to come clean on this. It's just the facts, that's all.
     
  8. Cady

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    A huge groundswell of public opinion disagrees with you. That's why Komen reversed its decision today.
     
  9. MisLed

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    Komen caves. Let me tell you. SGK is not an apolitical organization. THESE are liberal women and on a base level they support abortions. I suspect they cut back on funding PP because they've seen a decrease in funding since their association became known. So thank you stupid conservatives for digging into your pocket to give SGK extra money since you heard they dropped funding for PP. THEY HAVEN"T. I wish conservatives would smarten up about things like this.

    Conservatives, if they withheld their money to orgs such as SGK could put these people out of business. We all know liberals are not so inclined to donate their own money. BUT WE could close them down. They're not interested in cures, they interested in their coffers. Wise up.
     
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    Komen caved to PUBLIC pressure, because the general public supports women's access to health care. Conservatives made this all about abortion. It isn't.
     
  11. mamooth

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    ""PP will continue to save women's lives. Pro-lifers enraged. Film at 11."
     
  12. MisLed

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    No it wasn't regular women. WE know. It was democrat congressmen and the VP and NOW. Regular women are sitting back and watching this and vowing never to put another penny in this scammers pockets.
     
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    no. got that wrong. Continue to save women's promiscuity and kill their unborn. No film because that would destroy the left's socalled credibility.

    Funny you're defending SGK though seeing as they tried to axe your precious PP. Allegedly. ME. I think it was a fundraiser.
     
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    Oooh! Lines are being drawn!

    Yes, I'm sure all kinds of businesses are going to be racing to get the bad press that Komen got.
     
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    I guess your "finally" wasn't so "final" after all. . .

    Back to reason! Thank God! :grin:
     
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    Here's what's causing all the rage: women's promiscuity. Of course right-wingers don't realize that women can have an unplanned pregnancy from just ONE sexual encounter.
     
  18. churchmouse

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    This was a huge hit on PP. Not the funds….but the association. Komen made their decision based on more than the fact that they don't do abortions.

    They made a business decision….they don't want to associate with organizations that are being investigated for illegal activities. PP has been outed so many times its not funny…and sooner or later this all will catch up with them. They might only do 3% in-house abortion business…but that 3% pays the bills. Without abortion…..well the doors would close.

    Komen is getting an increase of donations…INCLUDING ME AND I HAVE BREAST ISSUES. I would never ever as bad as I want a cure for abortion…contribute to an organization such as PP…….NEVER.

    I will now be walking and donating to Komen as millions of new women I suspect will.

    They are a private organization and no one has the right to tell them they have to give. Why thats what you say we pro lifers do…force the woman to carry a child they don't want to carry..LOL


    Lay off of Komen…..they just made a PRO-CHOICE DECISION. ITS JUST NOW…YOURE ON THE SIDE THAT GOT THE BLOW. HOW DOES IT FEEL?
     
  19. churchmouse

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    How many of the woman today who get abortions get multiple ones?


    "Of the abortions reported in 1999 to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), 26.2% of women who aborted had experienced one previous abortion; 11.2% had two previous abortions, and 7.5% had three or more previous abortions. The situation may be even worse than this, because the reports that states make to the CDC are voluntary, and the largest abortion state, California, does not report. Forty-six states do report, and this led to a total count of 861,789 legal induced abortions in 1999. That means that in one year, by the most conservative data available, 64,634 abortions were performed on women who had had three or more previous abortions."

    And that was in 1999…..we are now even in a more open society.


    Most women don't admit to one abortion…let alone two or three…so against we will never get accurate statistics on this.


    http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/2006/11/21/or29.pdf
     
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    Too bad the hysterical anti-abortion rightwingnuts can never get their facts straight.

    In America, the principle behind our laws has always been that people are entitled to a presumption of innocence until they are proven guilty. The rightwingnut anti-abortion fanatics who got in control of the Komen Foundation created an anti-American internal rule requiring the Foundation to stop funding for any group that was being investigated for any reason, prior to any proof of guilt. When a compliant member of Congress immediately launched a bogus investigation of PP for political theater, this became the excuse to cut funding for breast cancer exams.

    Here's a pretty straight rundown of this affair.

    Komen puts politics before women's health
    The San Jose Mercury News
    02/03/2012
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    ...on behalf of the women with no health insurance whose care makes up 97 percent of Planned Parenthood's work -- a fact often drowned out by the political static over the 3 percent involving abortions. In rural areas, Planned Parenthood health clinics often are the only places women can receive any type of health care. Komen gave Planned Parenthood almost $700,000 in 2011 to provide poor women with breast cancer screenings who otherwise would not have received them; mammograms aren't free. About 170,000 women benefited.

    Komen CEO Nancy Brinker...is a major Republican donor...in 2010, Brinker hired Karen Handel as senior vice president for public policy...describing herself as "staunchly and unequivocally pro-life." At Komen, she [Handel] immediately began a full review of the foundation's grants and declared a policy of denying funding to any organization under investigation by federal, state or local authorities. Imagine how shocked, shocked, she was when Florida Rep. Cliff Stearns soon after announced a congressional investigation of Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood has meticulously kept any federal dollars as well as Komen grants separate from these [abortion] services. The Health and Human Services inspector general and state Medicaid programs conduct audits of Planned Parenthood. The findings are a matter of public record. The congressional investigation is purely a political tool to cut health care for poor women.


    Copyright © 2012 - San Jose Mercury News

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    Komen has every right to do what they want to do with THEIR MONEY. Pro-aborts are cry babies….no doubt over this. You are the hysterical one look at your post. It should not matter if the head of the organization is pro-life or not. They do not want to be associated with PP anymore…for all the obvious reasons. DO YOU NOT GET THIS ISSUE? PLANNED PARENTHOOD NEVER DID MAMMOGRAMS FOR WOMEN. THE DIRECTOR OUTRIGHT LIED IN AN INTERVIEW. I POSTED THAT ON HERE…..GO WATCH IT.

    THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO GIVE TO THE ORGANIZATIONS THEY WANT TO GIVE TOO. AND PLANNED PARENTHOOD IS NOT ON THE LIST ANYMORE.

    PP is under investigation for abusing many laws and Komen wants OUT.

    Ya know this does not turn its back on women who go to PP. The clinics did not do mammograms…..they shipped the women out to other facilities….AND GUESS WHAT……THEY STILL CAN DO THAT WITHOUT KOMENS MONEY.
     
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    LOLOLOLOL.....and you really fall for that lying rightwingnut bullshyt?

    Planned Parenthood's Effort To Fight All Types Of Cancer Still Under Attack
    February 03, 2012
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    Following the controversy surrounding Susan G. Komen for the Cure's initial announcement that it would end its relationship with Planned Parenthood, right-wing media have tried to downplay Planned Parenthood's efforts to fight cancer, claiming that Planned Parenthood doesn't provide mammograms and does "nothing to prevent breast cancer." But this ignores the numerous cancer-related services Planned Parenthood annually provides to women -- including more than 1.5 million cancer screenings and preventative services in 2010 -- such as breast exams, mammogram referrals, and screenings for other types of cancer; moreover, contrary to right-wing claims, some Planned Parenthood clinics do indeed provide mammograms.

    Contrary To Claims, Some PPFA Clinics Indeed Provide Mammograms -- Thanks To Grants From Komen

    As Of March 2011, Texas Planned Parenthood Clinics Did Offer Mammograms -- "Through Grants From The ... Susan G. Komen Foundation." In a March 2011 statement to Media Matters, Felicia Chase Goodman, CEO of Planned Parenthood of Central Texas, said:
    "Planned Parenthood of Central Texas is proud to provide comprehensive breast cancer screening for our patients, including mammography when needed. Through grants from the Central Texas affiliate of the Susan G. Komen Foundation and our participation in the Breast and Cervical Cancer Screening (BCCS) program (through the Texas Department of State Health Services), PPCT provides referrals and pays for mammograms and diagnostic follow up treatment for our patients at area radiology and surgical clinics. Through these grants, in 2010 PPCT patients received 609 screening mammograms and 125 diagnostic mammograms; breast cancer was detected in 20 women. For most of these patients, Planned Parenthood is their only healthcare provider. Through our participation in the BCCS program, patients who are diagnosed with breast or cervical cancer can be enrolled in the Medicaid for Breast and Cervical Cancer (MBCC) program, which ensures that they receive the necessary treatment to fight cancer."​

    Waco, TX, Planned Parenthood Has Provided More Than 2,000 Mammograms Since 2001. From a Waco, TX, Planned Parenthood Newsletter:
    "In 2009 we provided 487 mammograms and 162 diagnostic follow-up procedures for our patients. Since this program began in 2001, we have provided 2,683 mammograms to low-income women." [Waco Planned Parenthood, Spring/Summer 2010]​


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    PP will continue to kill babies and teach your daughters that promiscuity is good and that sex is nothing sacred or special. That sex is a recreational sport and has no consequences. That if you aren't having sex then you, as a female, are worthless...but that if you, as a female, get pregnant then there is something 'wrong' with your body and it must be ended lest you get a stretch mark and become unattractive to your partner (and thus making you worthless) No film at 11 about this but stay tuned and we'll have some young women gyrating in a couple of videos while men applaud their performance...just to remind any young girls present what their true purpose is...whoring for Progressives so that the traditional family unit can be eradicated from the Earth.
     
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    So three quarters of women who have had an abortion will never have another one

    That is a pretty high rate of non-return

    And it does not say but I gather these were only surgical abortions or a mixture of medical and surgical abortions?
     
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    Planned Parenthood does not have to do that - not when virtually the entire advertising industry is selling sex. They are just trying to fix the mess left by the advertising industry
     

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