Komen to Stop Grants to Planned Parenthood Abortion Biz

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  1. Object227

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    Why is the advertising industry selling sex?
     
  2. churchmouse

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    THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO STOP GIVING THEM MONEY AND THAT IS WHAT THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO DO. GET OVER IT.
    THEY ARE BEING INVESTIGATED FOR BREAKING LAWS…….ARE YOU ALSO DENYING THAT?

    You obviously think that PP is headed by God….they do nothing wrong…and who is naive here?
     
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    Oh this is just gooooood..
     
  4. churchmouse

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    Planned Parenthood is under a congressional inquiry,to see if federal money was being used to fund abortions, a practice that is legally prohibited and illegal.

    Who wouldn't want to separate themselves from something like this. Now some people might be blind but what has been uncovered already by undercover groups showing that illegal practices have been in place, sex trafficking, statutory rape…etc…also might have played a part in Komens decision.
    Nevertheless…..its Komens money and no outside group, political or not should force them to do something they don't want to do.


    " Planned Parenthood reported Wednesday that Komen's decision has resulted in a significant increase in donations."

    Then bravo for them….more blood money to fund abortion…yet they still whine….and whine…..and whine…...
     
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    prometeus Banned

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    So, because some self righteous idiot starts a witch human all has to come to an end? What if he finds nothing, does he get aborted?
    What happened to innocent till proven guilty?

    If anyone broke the law, they should be prosecuted.

    Quite so, quite so, but they should have the integrity to say why.

    You consider emotion drive tripe to be an argument?
     
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    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's Komen's money thanks to the multitude of volunteers who raised that money for them. Displease all those volunteers and there will be no money, it's as simple as that. It behooves charitable groups to remember where the money came from.
     
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  8. Object227

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    FINALLY something we can agree on...

    and since conservatives are consistantly more giving than liberals (thus the need of PP to take tax money), Komen may find themselves in a world of hurt.

    -- Although liberal families' incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families, conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household ($1,600 per year vs. $1,227).

    -- Conservatives also donate more time and give more blood.


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    The single biggest predictor of someone's altruism, Willett says, is religion. It increasingly correlates with conservative political affiliations because, as Brooks' book says, "the percentage of self-described Democrats who say they have 'no religion' has more than quadrupled since the early 1970s." America is largely divided between religious givers and secular nongivers, and the former are disproportionately conservative.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/conservatives_more_liberal_giv.html
     
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    Nope. I can see that believing that myth comforts many conservatives by giving them a false superiority complex, but it's just a myth, unsupported by any evidence.

    Arthur Brooks' "Who Really Cares" is always the basis for that myth, and that book has two colossal flaws.

    First, Brooks just lies with his statistics. What Brooks actually found was that liberals and conservatives give the same amount, but that moderates are very stingy. Since "Moderates are stingy!" wasn't going to get Brooks any talk show gigs, book sales and other wingnut welfare money, Brooks decided to dishonestly lump moderates and liberals together, and used that to declare "Liberals are stingy!". In other words, Brooks found "Moderates are stingy!", but lied and declared "Liberals are stingy!".

    Second, Brooks declares that when conservatives support their local social club -- their church -- that gets called charity. But should a liberal pay money into the non-church places he socializes, that would not be charitable giving. Terrible double standard. An honest comparison would put local church support into a separate category.
     
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    from conservatives cause it sure don't come from liberals. The stingiest people on the face of the earth.

    but there is a solution to this. DO NOT GIVE TO ANYONE WHO DOES ANYTHING OTHER THAN Cancer Research. See. Wont that easy?
     
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    That's kind of scary, the way you've convinced yourself of such insanity, and the way you obsess about it. Is it really that important for you to find reasons to hate?

    Just calm down and stop worrying that some woman may be having sex without your approval. It's not normal or healthy to act that way.
     
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    Yet a very interesting fact of this is overlooked by you. If you take into consideration that it is the religious folk who give more and they give to religious or faith based charities mostly it becomes apparent that that way they control who and why receives from their contribution. Not exactly the true altruists they pretend to be. The so called conservatives contribute less to unaffiliated charities and social programs where one does not have to believe or follow a certain creed to benefit.
    Bottom line is that they are hypocrites.
     
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    Listen to conservative propaganda much?

    Yes, and that will ensure that many women will never have access to affordable breast cancer screenings for early detection and treatment. How generous of you.
     
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    it's already been established that it is a lie that you get mammograms or early breast cancer detection at a PP clinic.

    Unless of course you've ever experienced it? have you? Matter of fact how MANY of you Solid Supporters of PP have ever gone to one of their clinics except of course for an abortion? Would you go there for a screening and let some nurse wannabee put their dirty hands on your sex organs? Secondary or otherwise? I doubt that.

    And you're right. I AM generous because PP Corporation has just put up a 35million dollar HQ in NYC with American taxpayers money.
     
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    No, it's been established that Planned Parenthood PROVIDES mammograms to women who otherwise would have no access to them. Do ANY gynocologists personally give mammograms? No, they refer women to a lab.

    How is that relevant?

    PP operates safe facilities that meet the same requirements as any other.


    Of course you can provide proof. You would never just make baseless claims...
     
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    Boy...lol, you still trying to carry on this lie that PP does mammograms?....lmao!

    Cady, did your OBGYN take credit for the mammogram? Didn't think so. Why not? B/c they simply refered to the place to get it done b/c THEY DON'T DO THEM!

    My 5 year old gets this. Why can't grown ass adults?
     
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    Um, nooooo, actually he doesn't take credit for mammograms because...HE DOESN'T PAY FOR THEM.
     
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    Actually that is not much for a health care facility - our new outpatients is costing more than that
     
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    Could you provide a number of a PP clinic that does mammograms on site please? In fact could you give me the number of every clinic that does this?

    They do not operate safe clinics…in fact many have been shut down because the standards they keep were worse than a vet clinic. Read the book, LIME 5 by Mark Crutcher…who documents these clinics and calls them by name. He found that the deaths that occur at these clinics happen because they DO NOT EVEN HAVE LICENSED DOCTORS THAT DEAL WITH ANESTHETIC. You don't hear about the deaths because they are settled before they go to court. The families don't want their loved ones name in the papers and doctors do not want their patients to know…or that it would select on their record. But believe me it happened…and Crutcher names cases, places where these deaths occurred.
     
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    If this PP, Komen has done one thing it has brought the truth to light. Many people I have talked to did NOT KNOW THAT PP DOES NOT DO MAMMOS ON SITE…AND THAT KOMEN WAS CONNECTED TO THIS ABORTION MILL. They are furious….and will not donate to either one. Hopefully the other organizations who do breast cancer research will benefit…as PP and Komen go down.

    What do you give too?
     
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    None of this negates the hypocrisy of the charity of the conservatives, if anything it only confirms it.

    It is none of your (*)(*)(*)(*)ing business.
     
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    Will you get over your obsession with the requirement of mammograms being done on site? PP PAYS for them, which is PROVIDING them. They paid for them with grant money from Komen. PP is able to negotiate better prices, it is important to get the best prices in order to make grant money go as far as possible, to serve as many women as possible. The truth is out now, Komen isn't interested so much in helping women as manipulating and controlling women to comply to their own political agenda.
     
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    If their political agenda is to prevent premeditated homicides, only an evil person would oppose it!
     
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    There is nothing wrong with premeditated homicide of humans which lack minds.
     

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