Ku Klux Klan supporters do Nazi salutes at rally in honour of Donald Trump

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  1. Derideo_Te

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    Trump already invited extremist alt right spokesman in chief Steve Bannon into the Oval office.
     
  2. After Hours

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    Have you ever heard of anyone shouting "Allahu Akbar" while mowing people down who was not affiliated with terrorists?

    Why would you shout "God is Great" while killing innocent people unless you sympathized with terrorists?
     
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    Why do you guys insist on giving the KKK credibility and veracity when they have none and I be couldn't even get 100 KKK's at a rally and don't pretend every one there was a KKK. People come out to laugh at them I'm sure.

    And by the way I bet the KKKers like football and since Trump does too that makes him a racist if you are going to engage is such associations.
     
  5. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    The "Nazi" salute is as American as apple pie. It was the original salute used in the Pledge of Allegiance but they wimped out when the Nazis saw that it was a good way to pledge allegiance to the State. So the KKK is simply taking back an American tradition to our grandparents loved.
    http://mentalfloss.com/sites/default/legacy/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/bellamy-salute.jpg
     
  6. After Hours

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    Yes, barely won, let's go over the facts:

    - Trump lost the popular by a substantial margin.
    - His electoral college win is amongst the smallest wins ever
    - More voters voted third party this election cycle compared to 2012

    And yes you are getting cocky. More than half the country hates your president elect, and you only won because Democrats didn't support Hillary like they did Obama. If the Democrats find a candidate to energize those voters the way Obama did...the GOP and Trump will be fired.








    Obama rightfully started speaking about issues of racism that plagued blacks instead of ignoring it like previous presidents, which is a good thing.

    But, again, the right has been accusing Obama of being racist even BEFORE he was elected, and blaming essentially any crime committed by blacks anywhere in the entire world on him. At the end of the day...the right, specifically the far right, couldn't deal with a black guy being elected president. Everyone knows it, including Trump, who successfully capitalized on that anger by pandering to those same group of right wing voters with a victim mentality.

    And get over BLM already, geezus. From 2008-2012, right wing media had you guys frothing at the mouth about the "new black panthers", and ever since BLM came on the scene in 2013, that's all you ever talk about. BLM, I suspect, started out as a legitimate group with legitimate concerns which was then hi-jacked by thugs looking for excuses to riot/steal. Now, anytime a black person steals or riots...the right wing minions immediately shriek "BLM!".

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    sympathizing doesn't mean you are affiliated with such a group...

    Any maniac can shout "BLM" or "Allahu Akbar", or even "Donald Trump" while committing a crime...
     
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    Your personal attacks aside...what point are you trying to prove? Nothing you stated has refuted what I stated.
     
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    I think we can say the same thing about Hillary.
     
  9. After Hours

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    You can. Hillary WAS cocky, and paid for it, so good riddance. I hope the Democrats are done with the Clinton's. Since the Dems forced the Clinton's down the voters throats...we are now stuck with Trump.
     
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    How do.they know the salute was for Trump? It could have been for obama.
     
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    And yet...they don't shout "BLM or Donald Trump".

    Why would you sympathize with anyone who shouts this while randomly murdering innocent people of all religions in the most gruesome ways imaginable all over the world?

    You did not answer my question..."Have you ever heard of anyone shouting "Allahu Akbar" while mowing people down who was not affiliated with terrorists?"


    I've got news for you bud...if you sympathize with terrorists and shout "Allahu Akbar" while committing a terrorist act then you're a terrorist, regardless of whether you're "affiliated" with them or not! :blankstare:
     
  12. After Hours

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    I agree...all criminals are terrorist.

    By trying to tie people to particular "groups" based on nothing but them shouting something like "BLM" is lame...even if they sympathize with a particular group.
     
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    Who cares what the KKK thinks?



    "Nothing is more sad than when we sideline young black men with unfulfilled potential, tremendous potential. I met some people this morning that are incredible people and they're looking for jobs. These are incredible people . . . young people. Our whole country loses out when we're unable to harness the brilliance and the energy of these folks

    "We're one nation and when anyone hurts, we all hurt together. That is so true. So true.

    "We're all brothers and sisters and we're all created by the same God. We must love each other and support each other and we are in this all together. All together.

    "I fully understand that the African-American community has suffered from discrimination and that there are many wrongs that must still be made right and they will be right. I want America prosperous for everyone. I want to make this city the economic envy of the world and we can do that. We can do that again." - Donald Trump
     
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    Why would I try to refute a lie?

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/02/2-iowa-police-officers-killed-in-apparent-ambush-attacks.html

    This was just last month!
     
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    I stated that right wing media generally riles up their base around election time with stories of black crime, and black boogeymen such as the new black panthers and the BLM group. And what I stated is...true. How else are they going to get their angry minions with a victimhood mentality to the polls?
     
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    You left out the part where they are shouting "Allahu Akbar" while murdering innocent people so it is based on far more than what they are shouting!
     
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    which is why I said all murderous criminals are terrorist...doesn't mean they belong to any particular "group" though. Unless you consider all murdering criminals terrorists...which I do.
     
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    The link alone proves what you stated is not true...you honestly do not remember this, it was just last month?
     
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    It doesn't refute what I stated.

    And considering your fellow right wingers are always saying the "MSM" is always focusing on white on black crime, while ignoring black on white crime, and yet posting articles about black on white crime from...the MSM, one has to whether they themselves are pushing a false narrative.
     
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    Do you people ever stop to think before you post?

    If you think they are all terrorist then how do you come to the conclusion that they are not "affiliated" with terrorists? Do you know what affiliated means? :confusion:

    You do not have to belong to a group to be affiliated with them.
     
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    It directly refutes what you stated..you stated fox does not report on cops killed by whites, so how do you figure an article 6 days before the election about a white man ambushing two cops in Iowa from fox news does not refute that? :confusion:

    There is video from the actual TV broadcast in the link if you bothered to look.
     
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    Again, putting aside your snide remarks and personal attacks (I know you can't help yourself), let me break this down slowly for you:

    - I consider all murderous criminals terrorist
    - just because you scream some group's name while you commit a crime, whether it's ISIS, "BLM", or whoever, doesn't mean you are part of that group. It's like the shooter from Orlando...there was no evidence whatsoever that he was involved with ISIS, despite what he may have claimed to police over the phone.
     
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    I said right wing media repeatedly riles up their low information voters with specific stories of black crime, or any stories of criminal minorities, to get GOP voters to the polls. And they do. The fact that one article on their website about a white guy killing cops doesn't refute what I stated. Your average Fox news viewer isn't concerned with that, and they know it.
     
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    affiliated
    əˈfɪlɪeɪtɪd
    adjective
    (of a subsidiary group or a person) officially attached or connected to an organization.
     
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    The KKK does nothing but talk these days.

    Their membership dwindles each year sitting at just under 5000 currently, and even if they wanted to do anything more than talk they would be instantly arrested because they're on every law enforcement watch list we have.

    BLM on the other hand is an active domestic terrorist platform with a growing membership that we cant even fully estimate.

    When the KKK has a demonstration its a few dozen people at most who show up, scream, and leave.

    When BLM has a demonstration its thousands of people who show up, commit hate crimes, commit assaults, commit thefts, and commit acts of vandalism.

    The KKK has no friend in government, unless you count the Democrats of near-past generations.

    The BLM however has a formal relationship with government at the local, State, and Federal level.

    No candidate courts the KKK, Democrat candidates court the BLM.

    No President invites the KKK to the White House, Obama invited BLM to the White House.

    Point of all of this is to say that Leftists have a big problem with hypocrisy that comes up each time they want to talk about the KKK.

    So given all of this can you tell me why I should care about an insignificant gathering of a few dozen scumbags, Think?
     

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