Laid off: Newspapers drop office cartoon 'Dilbert' over creator's racial remarks

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And again, the very first poster who commented under you said that you have a history of questionable posts like this.

 

I said I know them I didn't say we're best buddies. I know a lot of people.

Some other posters told me some things about you too. Should I believe everything?

Sounds more like you've been around the block a time or two here.

 

Same principle: just because you know or have black friends doesn't negate anything stupid you've said. It doesn't work like that.

I've been a member of other forums and I've said as much, so I know how they work if that's what you mean by "been around the block."

And it's interesting you talk about other posters saying things, because I've read some things about this spot too from other people elsewhere.

 

Hmm. I commented earlier: "Isn't customer service where people call in to complain? And you could tell which ones were Black? I think your sample is skewed and not in line with reality." And then you ran away, refusing to answer, so the assumption was, I was right, but now the story changes.
And you stand behind "if they don't immediately get their way they have no problem being racist"?

 

Maybe because I've already mentioned the fact that I work behind a register multiple times and it's not worth my time to sit here and argue with you. But I'm sure that never occurred to you.

And yes I have been called racial slurs out of the blue at work by several customers just because they did not immediately get their way or they heard the word no.

 

Way to judge information at the most superficial level possible. There are many good arguments against your knee-jerk analysis; but you don't seem to be the open-minded debater who is worth my time to present those arguments. Read further on in the thread, and you will find them.

I will include one: that "It's OK to be White," is apparently an expression that was started by a White Supremacist group, as a White Power slogan. On top of that, the question is rather open to interpretation, because it is so unspecific, and might have been taken by some to be asking if it was all right to be part of the dominant racial group, without taking any responsibility for the racism engrained in their system, for example.

Incidentally, do you support the idea that, "Black Lives Matter?"

 

Black lives matter is a silly slogan 'cause all lives matter and if a certain color of life doesn't matter to a person that person is quite likely a racist.

 

FYI, you have just disproven, your prior assertion:
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Not sure if it's OK to be certain skin color? That's racist.

If you think that Black Lives Matter, is a silly slogan, because you erroneously feel it suggests otherwise, of anyone who is not black, then you have no excuse, but hypocrisy, for not accepting that same sort of reading, by those answering the survey, about the expression, "It's OK to be white." Namely, that some could have taken the specifying of "white," as an excluding of those who are not white.

To be clear, this in not my personal reading; but I also find your own reading of "Black Lives Matter"-- to mean that white lives don't matter-- to be a ludicrous one. So, consistently-- which is an attribute of all functional lines of reasoning, not to mention, of all sincere arguments-- if you do hold this view of the BLM slogan, logic would compel your accepting the same objection to the phrase "It's OK to be white." The analogous viewpoint, to your own, would be that this is "silly," and that it should be: "It's OK to be any color." That opinion would not be indicative of racism-- unless your own opinion of the BLM slogan, is also "racist?"

 

Dude, those who think it's bad that it's OK to be white are haters of whites, er, are racists.

 

Even if I accepted that, they would be nowhere near as bad, as people who don't believe that Black Lives Matter.

 

All lives matter including black lives.

 

And it's "OK" to be any color, including, but not limited to, white.

Please, have more sense than to keep us on this merry-go-round. If "all lives matter, including black lives," then it should pose no problem to say that about any subset of those lives: i.e., "white lives matter," "black lives matter," etc. But since that is not how you interpreted that expression, you have no leg to stand on-- as I had already explained in advance-- to criticize anyone who views " it's OK to be white," the same way as you see "black lives matter." That is, instead of it being fine to mention any part of the whole, separately (It's OK to be black; It's OK to be white), they feel it should be stated in a way comparable to your "ALL Lives Matter," IOW, think the correct way to say it, would be "It's OK to be ANY COLOR."

For you to not see these two situations as equivalent, would only be a sign of your hypocrisy. In fact, as I had also mentioned beforehand, unlike the non-racist expression, "black lives matter," the expression "It's OK to be white," is a slogan, associated with white supremacy.


P.S.-- To persist in trying to draw a distinction, here, would only make you seem desperate to disparage blacks.

 

Dude, the problem with BLM, for example, is the emphasis is on black lives mattering more than other lives...That the black community has been especially harassed...If the black community had better leaders, better influencers and more free speech, for example, the black community would be more successful.

 

You totally misunderstood her then. Looks like you’re doing quite the amount of assumptions as well. Anyone who knows @FatBack knows where she works. She doesn’t hide that stuff. You’re just quick to attack.

 

I'm a dude but yeah you're right.
As a matter of fact us cashiers are called CSRs.

You know what that stands for @edna kawabata ?

Take a wild guess..... It means " customer service representative ".

 

BLM only cares about blacks. BLM I’m fact is racist. They have a different set of rules for whites who March with them. Is that not racist?

On violent days what do they tell white people to do?

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/22/9130...te-allies-it-s-our-turn-to-lead-our-own-fight

on non violent days what do they tell white people to do?

https://www.phillyvoice.com/video-black-lives-matter-organizer-tells-white-people-get-back/amp/

BLM is full of racism.

 

My bad. Lol

 

Don't worry, I won't throw a fit
That's my shadow in my avatar btw

 

I did not misunderstand him. Here is a picture of a customer service representative.


That is what is usually meant when using that term. He then didn't respond to my comment and only later expanding the definition to anyone who works retail, to fit his needs.

 

So what happened to all the post about Louis Farrakhan that a certain member here support so much?

 

Your first assertion is false: what makes you hear the word "more," at the end of the phrase: Black lives matter? The true implication, were it spelled out, would be that black lives matter as much as white lives. The impetus behind the group, is their impression, at the very least, that black lives are not treated the same, by police, as are white lives-- not treated as if they count for anything.

The Black community honestly believes they have been, and still are, "especially harassed." So what do you have against their exercising their right of free speech & assembly, to say so? You may disagree with their belief, but the news certainly makes it appear they have a very good case. So, if you would argue that it is the MSM, which is fooling people, you should allow that black people are just as capable of being fooled as whites. Therefore, you should reserve all your criticism for, and show your proof against, the Media, not blame the black community. This is especially true, if you are going to make the ridiculous counter-claim, that it is really white males, who are treated as if their lives don't matter (showing that Media, on the Right, is just as capable of brainwashing its consumers).

I know, on the other hand, that there is very good evidence of systemic racism, so I do not think that blacks have been misled by the Media, as much as that they are aware of what happens, in their communities. Common sense would dictate that black people are infinitely better sources of information about how police treat them, than you are.

1) Our leaders are not apportioned, by race-- they are supposed to help ALL citizens, regardless of race.

2) Black leaders have faced even more opposition, historically, from the majority white establishment, than have the average black person.

3) I assume you do not mean internet "influencers," but merely people to set a good example. Your suggesting this, indicates that you are woefully uneducated, regarding black history. Additionally, to become a good "influence," a person must become well known, must succeed. But if our system has always made it harder (and, at one time, nearly impossible) to succeed-- certainly much harder than for a white person, or to be able to achieve the same level of success-- then you are dealing with a crooked deck, for comparing the the hands dealt to the white & black communities, from the start.

4) "More free speech"-- WTF?

 

I can show you a million videos from the internet right now of white people being unjustly harassed and harmed by the police.

I have been harassed by the police myself I didn't cry victim because of my race.

If you are 13% of the population but a large percent of your population commits such an overwhelming majority of crime that you come into contact with police more often that means that you'll probably suffer more unjust police treatment as well

 

Well, if that is your measure, our Society is full of racism, against blacks. So why shouldn't they be able to march, and speak their minds about it? You think freedom of speech & assembly shouldn't apply to blacks-- because they're so racist?

 

Maybe you didn't notice but that's not HIS measure..... He simply pointed out to you that that is THEIR measure

 

Your comment makes no sense. It was Joe Knows, who had used the stories about BLM marches, in which whites were treated differently than blacks, as his own measure, to come to his judgement, that "BLM is full of racism." You can agree with Joe, without it becoming "their measure"-- that just makes it the measure that you use, as well (to judge racism).

IOW, you are using "measure" differently than I had: as the criterion, by which one judges what constitutes "racism." And, by that measure, or standard, if that is clearer-- since there are many examples that could be given in our society, of blacks & whites being treated differently, because of their skin color-- blacks would have far more basis than supplied by Joe, to say that American society "is full of racism."