LANNY DAVIS: COHEN NEVER WENT TO PRAGUE AS STEELE DOSSIER CLAIMS-DOSSIER IS FALSE

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  1. icehole3

    icehole3 Well-Known Member

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    Well, Let's see who signed those false dossier pages!! So you guys can stop with the nonsense about the dossier has never been proven wrong narrative. I'll bring up you favorite Democrat Lanny Davis' own words if I ever hear that narrative again. 13 references! 13 references the FBI didn't tell the FISA judges.

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    LANNY DAVIS: MICHAEL COHEN NEVER WENT TO PRAGUE AS STEELE DOSSIER CLAIMS
    Thirteen references to Mr. Cohen are false in the dossier, but he has never been to Prague in his life,” Davis said Wednesday in an interview on Bloomberg.
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/22/lanny-davis-michael-cohen-prague/





    O yeah by the way did anyone know Lanny Davis is a Registered Foreign Agent for Pro-Russian Oligarch Wanted by US Government and Linked to Putin.

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    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1032311832025935872?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1032367459439788040&ref_url=https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/08/cohen-attorney-lanny-davis-is-registered-foreign-agent-for-pro-russian-oligarch-wanted-by-us-government-and-linked-to-putin/
     
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  2. TomFitz

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    So Daily Baller (and the rest of the right wing trash blogs, I see) are recycling a 45 day old reference that Cohen made about whether he travelled to Prague or not as "new" news.

    In that same interview, he said a number of other things that he has since reversed course on.

    But taking that nugget out of that article and then trying to pass it off as new news is a standard tactic in right wing media. The fact that the other right wing trash blogs cribbed it and repeated it with no research or fact checking, is also typical.

    It's a clear indication of how little Trumpsters have left to stand on.

    When the noise machine starts resorting to disingenuous tricks like this, you know that they don't have much to stand on.

    In that same interview, he claimed he was not involved in Trump's efforts to coordinate with the Russians.

    But on Tuesday, he told the Federal court a different story, and offered documentation.
     
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  3. icehole3

    icehole3 Well-Known Member

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    Is Lanny Davis right or wrong Tom?
     
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  4. icehole3

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    3 out of the 11 total memos in the dossier are directly about the Cohen meeting in Prague and details (who, what, where, when, why etc.) Half of another memo is also about the Prague meeting and what happened there. Is Lanny Davis right or wrong? Anyone feel free to answer that instead of doing the electric slide.
     
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    I am very sure that Cohen, or one of Trump's other flunkies went to Prague. I have little doubt about that.

    As I said, Cohen changed his story significantly from the one he told Bloomberg 45 days before the Daily Caller piece. I see NO other collaboration fo the Daily Caller story in anything other than equally dubious and unreliable right wing scream blogs.

    While I cannot say with certainty, I'm fairly certain that Cohen went to Prague, and if not, one of Trump's other henchmen did.

    I am also absolutely certain that there was more than one meeting between senior Trump campaign officials and Russian operatives.

    I have little doubt that the Trump campaign did its level best to coordinate their activities with the ongoing Russian cyber war against the United States. I am also certain that there were deliverables established, chief among them, the revocation fo the Obama sanctions.
     
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    I won't lie, that Davis revelation is a little disappointing, but I'll wait for the final Mueller report to have the situation finalized... There is little doubt Cohen will be able to provide testimony AND evidence against Trump performing illegal and unethical acts, but maybe not that allegation in the Steele dossier, which is (and generally has been) meaningless in the long term Mueller investigation...
     
  7. icehole3

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    Once again his lawyer Lanny Davis is on video with Chuck Todd saying Cohen was "never ever ever in Prague." So who is this other person that Trump had go there and why wasn't that person's name in the Dossier that was given to FISA judges over and over again. The video hasn't hit youtube yet or I would link it for you, cause I'm a nice guy.

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  8. icehole3

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    So far he's doing the opposite, he's torching Mulehead's investigation.
     
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    Uh Huh....:eyepopping:
     
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    The dossier also claimed Carter Page went to russia and met with Russian Government officials. Both Page and Trump denied that accusation, well........until Page admitted it ;)

    So you pick one thing out of the dossier and claim the whole thing false as some sort of defense ? As has been stated numerous times. The Dossier was not used in whole to get the FISA warrants. You don't go to the court and go, "this guys is a bad guy, we need to surveil him", you have to have specific allegations, and those allegations have to be corroborated. This idea that accusations have to be proven true before a warrant is issued is just laughable. Accusation have to have supporting evidence, but the entire reason for the warrants are to prove the accusations true or false. And in the case fo the FISA warrants, you pick one thing that wasn't true, and I've shown in multiple threads that there were accusations in the dossier that were true, and there was corroborating evidence to support them. Those turned out to be true. ANd coincidently, they all happened around the time of the FISA renewal....wierd...huh....
     
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    Funny dance moves to avoid addressing the POINT about the lyingass dossier...
     
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    More bullshit. Page NEVER DENIED his PERFECTLY LEGAL trip to Russian to GIVE A BUSINESS SPEECH, and discuss business dealings, nor did the POTUS.
     
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    The mueller witchhunt is based on lies
     
  14. icehole3

    icehole3 Well-Known Member

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    Apparently these Title 1 warrants apps have to be completely verified or you don't present it to the judge or you're in deep dew dew. Completely Grape not somewhat.
     
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    Dang... now I know why the local food mart was out of aluminum foil....
     
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    Good Grief, Tom.....give us some facts instead of your silly opinions.

    "I am very sure"
    "I have little doubt"
    "As I said"
    "I see NO"
    "I cannot say"
    "I am also"
    "I have little"
    "I am also"

    lol
     
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    Sounds like a gay is genetic article.

    We all knew the Dossier was fake from countless errors and lack of evidence. It is amusing watching how stupid Lanny Davis is though.
     
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    Yes, of course he is, hes hillary clintons lawyer.
     
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    He denied talking to the Russian government during that trip. He later admitted it. THAT was what was in the dossier.

    Try reading something other than the FOX News website.
     
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    And the application is on a specific charge. And that "charge" is/was verified by more than one source.

    Why is this so hard for the right to understand that the entirety of the dossier wasn't used ? Its like having a video that 20 minutes long, and showing 2 minutes of a crime. You guys think the whole videotape should be excluded because 18 minutes of it contain no crimes
     
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    yep, I think they do... And in the Page case, it was 20 seconds out of 20 minutes... a VERY small part of the dossier...

    And why does anybody care, since the Page FISA warrant has apparently resulted in zippy in the Mueller investigation to date... If Mueller presents evidence in a future indictment that includes something gathered as a result of the Page warrant, then the wingnuts might have a case against the warrant. As of now, it's a total sideshow....
     
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    Why can't you understand that the FISA app has to be on the total up and up not some here some there, it makes the whole thing a joke. Can you go to the bank and get money with just your social security card?
     
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    If Fixer's statement that he never went to Prague, despite unconfirmed intelligence to the contrary, is true, that only accrues to his credibility.

    It'll be interesting to see what other revelations the trustworthy bloke will provide. If any are contested by less believable characters, we give the nod to Fixer!

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    That's good to know.
     
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    No, because, except for Cohen's claim that he wasn't in Prague, no other part of the "dossier" has been challenged or discredited. Not one.

    Not that it matters.

    The talk radio Trumpster right wing's obsession with the "dossier" was always misplaced, as it was not the primary document (and certainly not the only evidence) that was used to launch investigations into the dubious activities of the Trump campaign.

    The heavily promoted right wing obsesession with it was always a smokescreen to push a deflection that sought to impugn the motives and evidence surrounding any investigation into the activties of Trump's campaign people with regard to the Russians. Since the GOP and Trump have never wanted to talk about the actual events (and have studiously lied about them regularly), they needed a counter narrative they could sell to the talk radio, Fox base.

    Obsessing about the "dossier" was, is, and has always been exhibit number one in that deflection campaign.

    Whether Cohen was in Pargue or not remains to be seen.

    I do not doubt for a moment that that meeting, and/or other meetings like that DID take place.

    And I have no doubt taht there was more than one meeting between Russian operatives and senior members of the Trump campaign.

    Back when this all started to appear around the edges of the campaigns in the Fall of 2016, I was not of that belief. I did not believe that even Trump would be that obviously venal, stupid, and so disloyal that he would cospire with agents of a hostile governement to get himself elected.

    I am no longer in doubt on that score. And, frankly, I doubt that few other people other than the ones that live in the talk radio, Fox, Breitbart echo chamber, do either.
     
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    So, at least I can laugh...
     

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