Late term abortions are legal in the US.

and as you well know from my other comments I personally feel that the current viability point is set to high, personally I would go for a viability point of 21 weeks based on that is the earliest (21 weeks & 3 days) that a fetus has survived.

 

How many months was she born at?

Doesn't this video prove my earlier statement that elective late term abortions are legal, Fugazi?

 

Exactly, how many months was she born at and what country .. I rarely watch Anders videos as he has been caught out so many times before posting false ones, difficult to know what is real or not.

As far as being legal, again all I can do is point you towards Roe vs Wade and say as far as the law is concerned it is only legal for medical reasons.

 

Even in states that are more liberal in late-term abortions laws, a woman will have a very hard time finding a physician or clinic that will perform a late-term abortion purely for "want" reasons.

http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2009/06/02/lateterm-abortions-facts-stories-and-ways-help/

Most states restrict late-term abortions.

The Guttmacher brief notes that:

37 states prohibit some abortions after a certain point in pregnancy.
24 states initiate prohibitions at fetal viability.
5 states initiate prohibitions in the third trimester.
8 states initiate prohibitions after a certain number of weeks, generally 24.
The circumstances under which procedures are permitted after that point vary from state to state. For example:

29 states permit abortions to preserve the life or health of the woman;
4 states permit abortions to save the life or health of the woman, but use a narrow definition of health;
4 states permit abortions only to save the life of the woman.

Some states require the involvement of a second physician when a later-term abortion is performed. Nine states require that a second physician attend in order to treat a fetus if it is born alive. Ten states require that a second physician certify that the abortion is medically necessary.

 

If 4 states ban all kinds of abortions in almost all instances (except for the life of the mother), doesn't that violate roe. vs. wade? roe vs wade states that elective first trimester abortions are legal under federal law.

 

Yes, it is a violation. Probably most of the new anti-abortion laws passed by the states are violations and will be ruled as such if they make it to the Supreme Court. It takes a lot of time and money to get those cases through the courts though, and in the meantime women can be victimized. Some pre-1973 laws are still on the books in different states but are not enforced. Should RvW ever be overturned, those laws would be valid again.

 

So, 4 states have abortion illegal. That's pretty interesting if you ask me. I don't think it's a violation of federal law, as long as the federal government allows it. Agree or disagree?

 

It's a violation of the US Constitution. It's not up to the federal government to allow it.

 

The federal government is allowing those 4 states to have abortions illegal.

Just like how marijuana is illegal under federal law, but the federal government is allowing it to be legal in two states.

 

There has to be a "loophole" for protecting the health of the mother, I hope no pro-life is so deranged to oppose this. Late-term abortions are rare, and those that happen for no good reason are a lot more rare.

With regards to foetal pain, its hard to establish whether the foetus truly feels pain in later stage of pregnancy. I think anesthesia for the foetus should be mandated if possible.

 

OR, it's possible to technically keep abortion legal, but make the abortion laws so strict that almost no woman would get an abortion.

 

Almost no woman DOES get a late-term abortion. Already. Canada has no laws regulating abortion, and yet their abortion rate is lower than the USA.

 

Just because they're rare and not as common as other abortions, that doesn't make them OK.

 

They are SO rare and uncommon that women only have them for medical reasons. And they are already illegal, so what's your beef?

 

They're not illegal. The "health" of the mother is just a loophole to allow elective late term abortions in some instances.

So rare and uncommon compared to other abortions? Yes. But that doesn't make them right.

Also, some states allow elective late term abortions.

 

The "health" of the pregnant woman is a valid reason to consider even a late-term abortion. Talk about denial. "Allowing" or not criminalizing late-term abortions won't make more them happen. The law really has little effect on the numbers performed.

 

Define "health" in those situations.

 

"Health" in those situations is any instance of the woman's life being threatened or a possibility she would be permanently maimed. Mental health conditions also apply, since a woman's health or life can be threatened by mental conditions. Really, you have no proof that women casually or trivially choose abortion in late-term, they simply don't.

 

What do you mean by "mental health conditions".

"WAAAHHH I don't want to have a baby".

That's just an elective abortion, by another name.

 

Suicidal depression. You don't trust women to know what is best for them. Since "other" women don't know what is best for them, or they might have an abortion for a trivial reason, you believe YOU should dictate the terms of other women's lives.