Let's chat about the atheist religion II

Get thee behind me Son of Beliah

 

Political weight around, I live in the UK where the Head of State is the Head of Church and mostly we all get along just fine, but it appears that the Christians in the UK are much more civil than those in the USA, perhaps it is because they do not feel threatened as some hear clearly do.

 

citation?

 

Go back and find it.

 

As a history buff I recall that the English exported their religious fanatics to the New World and their criminals to Australia. It appears as though the Ozzies got the better deal!

 

Some are stranger than others. I found it necessary to send some of the local trolls in this forum to Cyberia since they were just a waste of time IMO.

 

So hows the weather?

 

yep just as I suspected, theres nothing to cite.

 

We can go back a forth with this. I'm the jury on this one, being the OP, and you have shown NO EVIDENCE. BTW, I spent several decades working in the legal field... the degree, the research, writing briefs, memorandums of law, presenting cases to juries. Evidence is a required skill set in the legal field. You have no greater evidence in your favor than the people who believe in creation. You are free to feel otherwise, but if it fails to meet a certain standard, and what you present is word salad that ends with an easy paraphrasing that you have a presupposition. It's not the subject of this thread and if you cannot understand that, then you've basically proven my point. If you don't know what this topic is about by now, there isn't a snowball's chance in HELL that you understand the fact that you do not hold a monopoly on the truth.

I won't address your fantasy futher on this thread. I will move along with observations about why you feel so insecure in your beliefs while trying to project that atheists, in general, live in a constant state of fear.

 

I don't feel threatened by you one bit. You came here to derail a thread, not have a civil and honest discussion. You are the one trying to cram your beliefs down my throat by harping on off topic subject matter. You are projecting; I'm proving it. The atheists don't know how to handle the conversation. So it's back to that mantra that works for them. Deflect, hijack the thread, and claim that the OP is trolling by asking atheists questions that puts them on the defensive.

 

Yawn. Have not (Childish posts will get childish replies)

 

The Conservative Federal judge in the Dover, Pa case after reviewing all of the evidence on both sides ruled that "intelligent design" was just rehashed "creationism" and therefore cannot be taught in schools. It is a LANDMARK decision and cited nationwide.

 

There was a thread of the same name as mine. I wanted to ask something along the same lines, but different so I put II at the end of the topic to differentiate it. Here we are 162 posts into the topic and less than a dozen on topic posts. So, I'm going to repeat the OP:

I saw the other thread; was annoyed that in my introduction thread here, atheists were trying to get me into a debate, so I have some issues of my own.

Atheists pretend that they're all about not having Christianity forced down their throat when they are trying to force their non-belief on us by interjecting it into irrelevant threads. It got me to wondering.

After many years, I do not recall the faction of atheists that have started or even participated in any threads where they took Muslims to task. And now there IS a religion that teaches Muslims to kill or convert people.

Additionally people proclaim that they are atheists, but get really defensive about being equated to secular humanists AND trying to imply that anyone linking secular humanism to the general policies of the U.S. government are "conspiracy theorists" when public policy IS consistent with secular humanism.

The people claiming to be atheists seem to be more about squelching Christians than having equality with all religions. Fact is, I'm only familiar with those threads wherein atheists want to bust the chops of Christians... Never Jews, never Muslims and not even with secular humanists (of which many atheists claim are not one and the same.) Anyone else ever notice that?

NOTE: As an observation point, I doubt that Christians or believers have accessed this thread save of maybe two or three that have had anything to say here. So, all those replies, the lack of responses that pertain to the questions asked confirms for me many things. Since atheists cannot stay on topic and have a civil conversation about the topic at hand, they either don't understand their own theories OR they understand them, but want to reject Christianity as they may have chosen Satanism and have found atheists to be of like mind in their war against Christianity. Put another way, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

 

We also live under a de facto government, ruled by judges that belong to the LIBERAL ABA and are pro-atheist. NONE OF WHICH HAS SQUAT TO DO WITH THIS THREAD. And, if you lack the capability of reading that, I'm sure you don't understand what the law is and how the judges are equally capable of making unconstitutional rulings. BTW, aren't you the guy that wanted to school me on the rules here? If it were, and you can't abide by those rules, you cannot "debate" anything. Now, do you think you can stay on topic? Let me repeat my previous post as every time an off topic post is made, I will repeat it until you understand what the subject is.

 

There was a thread of the same name as mine. I wanted to ask something along the same lines, but different so I put II at the end of the topic to differentiate it. Here we are 162 posts into the topic and less than a dozen on topic posts. So, I'm going to repeat the OP:

I saw the other thread; was annoyed that in my introduction thread here, atheists were trying to get me into a debate, so I have some issues of my own.

Atheists pretend that they're all about not having Christianity forced down their throat when they are trying to force their non-belief on us by interjecting it into irrelevant threads. It got me to wondering.

After many years, I do not recall the faction of atheists that have started or even participated in any threads where they took Muslims to task. And now there IS a religion that teaches Muslims to kill or convert people.

Additionally people proclaim that they are atheists, but get really defensive about being equated to secular humanists AND trying to imply that anyone linking secular humanism to the general policies of the U.S. government are "conspiracy theorists" when public policy IS consistent with secular humanism.

The people claiming to be atheists seem to be more about squelching Christians than having equality with all religions. Fact is, I'm only familiar with those threads wherein atheists want to bust the chops of Christians... Never Jews, never Muslims and not even with secular humanists (of which many atheists claim are not one and the same.) Anyone else ever notice that?

NOTE: As an observation point, I doubt that Christians or believers have accessed this thread save of maybe two or three that have had anything to say here. So, all those replies, the lack of responses that pertain to the questions asked confirms for me many things. Since atheists cannot stay on topic and have a civil conversation about the topic at hand, they either don't understand their own theories OR they understand them, but want to reject Christianity as they may have chosen Satanism and have found atheists to be of like mind in their war against Christianity. Put another way, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

 

I simply pointed out that you made up a bunch of ****, and tried to attribute it to me. That is called a strawman.

 

I have shown the evidence, you choose willful ignorance, up to you.

The Appeal to Accomplishment fallacy won't cut it either!

 

There was a thread of the same name as mine. I wanted to ask something along the same lines, but different so I put II at the end of the topic to differentiate it. Here we are 162 posts into the topic and less than a dozen on topic posts. So, I'm going to repeat the OP:

I saw the other thread; was annoyed that in my introduction thread here, atheists were trying to get me into a debate, so I have some issues of my own.

Atheists pretend that they're all about not having Christianity forced down their throat when they are trying to force their non-belief on us by interjecting it into irrelevant threads. It got me to wondering.

After many years, I do not recall the faction of atheists that have started or even participated in any threads where they took Muslims to task. And now there IS a religion that teaches Muslims to kill or convert people.

Additionally people proclaim that they are atheists, but get really defensive about being equated to secular humanists AND trying to imply that anyone linking secular humanism to the general policies of the U.S. government are "conspiracy theorists" when public policy IS consistent with secular humanism.

The people claiming to be atheists seem to be more about squelching Christians than having equality with all religions. Fact is, I'm only familiar with those threads wherein atheists want to bust the chops of Christians... Never Jews, never Muslims and not even with secular humanists (of which many atheists claim are not one and the same.) Anyone else ever notice that?

NOTE: As an observation point, I doubt that Christians or believers have accessed this thread save of maybe two or three that have had anything to say here. So, all those replies, the lack of responses that pertain to the questions asked confirms for me many things. Since atheists cannot stay on topic and have a civil conversation about the topic at hand, they either don't understand their own theories OR they understand them, but want to reject Christianity as they may have chosen Satanism and have found atheists to be of like mind in their war against Christianity. Put another way, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

 

I see the censors are busy deleting my posts while allowing the atheists to attempt and derail this thread... which is against the rules. Maybe some of us are more equal than others? Atheists cannot defend their positions so they make false claims, have posts deleted, and try to hijack threads.

 

What did I make up and address you with in this thread?

 

Dodges and Deflections used by atheists in order NOT to discuss this topic, but attempt to derail the discussion:

Fallacy

strawman

"Appeal to Accomplishment Fallacy" (what absolute horse puckey)

Accusations of personal insults (while I was being insulted)

I smell fear. What I've stated has been proven and so there is not much more left for me to do here except repeat the original post. So, you're wasting your time if you write more than one sentence on this thread and it does not apply to the OP, I won't read it, but will simply reply with the first posting. Thanks for confirming my suspicions.

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ist-religion-ii.571722/page-5#post-1071636584

 

There was nothing made up. YOU said some presents came from "santa." There is no strawman there. You need to look the word up. It was more of a question than anything else. And it was honest as well as accurate.

 

If you don't understand that **** you made up and attributed to me, there's no point debating with me any longer.

 

It was YOU that INTRODUCED the topic of LEGAL EVIDENCE into this thread!

Then you posted this egregious FALLACY!

I PROVED that your allegation is a FALLACY by citing the Dover, Pa ruling that established that there is NO EVIDENCE to support "creationism" whatsoever!

OTOH there are masses of SCIENTIFIC DATA that establishes that EVOLUTION is FACTUAL and that was used to DEBUNK the "intelligent design" drivel to the satisfaction of a CONSERVATIVE Federal judge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District#Outcomes

I can understand WHY you don't want to discuss the FACTS and EVIDENCE that establish that what you are posting is fallacious. However YOU raised this TOPIC (ref. your quotes above) and the legal FINDINGS of FACT establish beyond any doubt whatsoever that you are WRONG in this regard.

Have a nice day!