Let's study the islamic scriptures and the life of Muhammed together.

How about you quote me where I said so.

Are you suggesting I'm Jewish like Harvey Weinstein?
Well he did what Trump said he would get away with,.. grab them in the ***** and all of that.

 

You only showed that without context, you got nothing.

Well in the case of Aisha or whatever the name was of the char who got struck hard in the chest.... your quote doesn't mention anywhere that the guy who did it was morally right or wrong. You just invent it was wrong.
Joke is totally on you, if you think interpretation and context are irrelevant.
Totally to the point that you've dismissed yourself from this discussion as incompetent.

And what is the problem with this?

You whipped this up to prove that hitting women was alright. But your quote doesn't say that.

It doesn't. ... when you read it wholly. You're just quoting 1 line.
I'm asking who it this "them" as in my previous post.... like 3 times.
And you're just dropping it, and so conceding that you do not know.

You showed you got no clue.

15.000 to 30.000 people died in that example. To be found right on wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Germans_from_Czechoslovakia

They weren't expulsed. They fled before reprisals were able to take place.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algerian_War#End_of_the_war

Oh.. killing POW? That crap is what the allied did after WWII.
Something odd about it?

Last time I checked it was Israel selling arms to Bangladesh.
A country that has ethnic cleansing Arabs as a policy for years.
And the entire country gives their opinion about Israel in the UN about it.
Very possitive indeed.

 

Enough said.

 

Note his complete FAILURE in his reply - he couldn't DEFEND Mohammad's barbaric behavior of beheading 600+ Jewish CAPTIVES (some as young as 13 years old - barely having pubic hair) in one day (no sane person could defend Mo's barbaric behavior) so he goes all Tu Quoque by deflecting about SOMEBODY ELSE committing atrocities. The Master Deflector. We see right through him, though.

It's like "sure, my hero Charles Manson is a terrible guy, but HITLER is a worse guy so that makes Charles not so bad, see!!!". Sad, really - defending anyone who beheaded 600+ CAPTIVES in one day is just sad, and very very immoral. All Muslims I've conversed with do indeed defend Mohammad's barbaric behavior, sadly. Modern Secular Humanists have of course risen to a higher moral plane than Muslims, fortunately.

 

Wait, did he just DEFEND chopping off hands and feet!? Wow.....only in Islam.

 

Qur'an 4:34 (Shakir) says to BEAT women, that women are inferior to men, and that men have power over women.....and since I'm not aware of Weinstein BEATING women (sex and improper advances, yes, however) then I'd say that Muslims who won't condemn that barbaric verse are WORSE than Weinstein. The Islamic texts also approve of rape of captive (especially non-Muslim) women, and rape of wives, and sex-slavery. Also, the 72 virgins up in the magic invisible place in the sky is a case of rape as well, as any quota of promised sex partners would be considered RAPE by ethical people, of course.

 

There is no blinder than the one who don't want to see.

The link you gave said that muslims should imitate the behaviour of Muhammed. I'm answering to the arguments your live gave to me.

You were asking me who was "we"/

The Surate 4 verse 34 say it clearly.

No.

No.

It's the same.

Especially commies. Good to know that Staline is the pinnacle of morality for you. Slaughter of banu qurayzan just show that Muhammed and Hitler are alike. The fact that some other people did that too doesn't justify all the crimes Muhammed commited. I'm rather sure you would commit the same thing knowing your hatred of jews and christians.

So the genocide commited by the pakistani is the fault of israel ?

I don't care of Israel/Palestine. So pakistani have the right to genocide because Israel are mean ?
What's the next step of your way of thinking ? Should we sue cooking knive maker when they're used to murder someone.

 

notme, can we both agree that killing POWs is wrong? So Mohammad was wrong, and Allies after WWII who killed POWs were wrong as well? Can we agree on this, notme?

 

Great post!
Yes, Mohammad and Hitler both advocated killing all Jews.
The Islamic text say to kill the Jews: "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews, ......." (related by al-Bukhari and Muslim).Sahih Muslim, 41:6985, see also Sahih Muslim, 41:6981, Sahih Muslim, 41:6982, Sahih Muslim, 41:6983, Sahih Muslim, 41:6984, Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:56:791,(Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:52:177

 

"Slaughter of banu qurayzan '.. They asked to be convicted under their own laws and were, but remember it was a very small group of men.

 

It still doesn't justify those acts. Those acts were commited by Muhammed and his soldiers, and were under his responsibility.

 

That was Margot 2.

 

Yes, I know (so I should have said "she", I guess - sorry.)

 

They had invaded and taken over an oasis at Yatrib.. They committed treason.. and it wasn't 900... more like 90.

 

That's because Allah/Mohammad didn't know right from wrong.
It astonishes me how often Islam apologists will DEFEND ANY atrocity that Mohammad committed. ANY atrocity. Seriously, as an Islam apologist about ANY atrocity of Mohammad's that you can think of, and they'll gladly DEFEND said atrocity. (In all fairness Christians will do the same with their own god/prophet, so Christians are just as bad as Muslims.)

 

600-900 is what the Islamic texts say. Not 90.

 

Mohammad also approved of his soldiers raping captive women.

 

If TRUMP did the same thing you'd be up in arms about it!!

 

Mohammad also approved of raping slaves ("what your right hand possesses".)

 

It's still not a reason especially from a conqueror like Muhammed.

 

Muhammed was a caravan driver..

The population of Arabia was under 2 million people in 1930.. There were NO villages of 900 in 600 AD.

Jews arrived and took over a water source and schemed against the Muslims..

 

So they committed OFFENSIVE warfare, you're saying....so can be both agree that if Mohammad also committed OFFENSIVE warfare in his life that you'd condemn Mohammad, as well? I would, how about you, Margot?

 

It's ALWAYS the fault of the "scheming" Jews to Islam apologists!!!!
NEVER blame Mohammad, ALWAYS blame someone else (especially, like Hitler did, blame the Jews)!
Muslims NEVER look inward and say "you know, using the Qur'an for guidance has let us down at certain times in our history", etc.

 

I didn't pretended it was over 900 people. A simple caravan driver don't conquer almost the totallity of arabic peninsula and the companions of a simple caravan driver don't invade countries like Egypt.

 

Mohammad wanted to kick all the Jews and Christians out of the peninsula, so it appears he and his followers were fairly successful at that!