http://news.gallup.com/poll/183383/americans-greatly-overestimate-percent-gay-lesbian.aspx Gallup puts it at 3.8% identify as LGBT. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/06/13/5-key-findings-about-lgbt-americans/ Pew puts the LGBT population at 4.1% Its very doubtful that those are far off given the changed social attitude. The idea that LGBT can't be "out" is old school, haven't you heard that this is the day when same sex marriage won in the supreme court.
Look, I will be Heretical and say Heterosexuality is Number One, and nothing at all need changing, I do not expect acceptance even, be the best at it with Blessings. Never for a moment give one fraction of an inch to LGBT. Just two requests, Let LGBT folks be, let em marry, not even Marry, a small em.... Just let emmm be, because if it is that bad to be Gay, it will Implode on it's own lack of merit without extra help. I don't want your honey, I don't want your sting (Zoar) And if you just happen to have a Gay Child, Please don't kill that child, at least, let someone else adopt that child if you can't cope. I prefer to be Completely shunned rather than systematically abused as I have been in My youth.
Yes, I read the article. It rants about materials that attempt to alter orientation (a practice that has been shown to be both ineffectual and damaging) being banned and the christofacists are screaming it will ban the Bible. The Bible does not attempt to do this, it has been twisted by evangelicals to promote their agenda. Then it rants about black lives matter, Israel and “helping” a trans woman. It’s quite frankly all over the place and has no point... I can see why you relate to it.
You don’t understand what self-identification means, do you? You also seem to have trouble with reading comprehension, from your own article: “only 28% of bisexuals say that all or most of the important people in their lives are aware that they are LGBT” (surprise, you’re not all that important to gay people) And “72% say they have never lived in one of the LGBT neighborhoods” where you believe all the gays gravitate. Both polls and the studies they derived from point to the self identification of LGB individuals from the ages of 18-36 is 7.3% to show that self identification is most likely effected by acceptance. That’s about 24 million people extrapolated across the remaining brackets. For comparison if “gay self identification” was a state it would be the third largest in America behind California and Texas.
The traditional reasoning (for the exclusion of homosexuals from the military) is no different to the reasoning for the current separation of males and females in terms of living quarters etc. It's about focus on the job, free from the distractions of sex/romance.
So? My point was that it's not necessarily anything more than simple efficiency. In many nations (apart from Israel), males and females in the military live separately.
Which is ridiculous as Gays are not a problem anymore than anyone else as far as distractions go, you have stretched that line of reasoning so far, it snapped clean off.
Irrelevant. The fact remains that less than 5% identify as LGBT in anonymous polls. And that <5% is concentrated in certain areas. So its obvious from the facts that many people have not encountered an LGBT. And I dont care whether I have or have not encountered an LGBT, it doesn't bother me, so why does it bother you? Or does it pop your fantasy that LGBTs are everywhere?
Because Your claim is irrelevant. Pop everywhere was never an issue. Gays are the tiniest of minorities, but just not as tiny as you would wish. Tiny enough to actually be a complete waste of your precious time.
You are the one that brought it up and are continuing to deny you have ever met a gay person. It doesn’t bother me in the slightest, I find it hilarious, it’s certainly possible but statistically unlikely. (Just like there are no gay people in Iran) That your own articles are directly refuting your statements is even more comical.
What more is there to say? Had an Army buddy who had to overnight with them due to plane issues on his way home from overseas. They put him up.in the barracks. He was shocked (surprised not appalled) at first, but quickly settled in as he saw men and women in various stages of undress, as they were getting ready for work to shower. Said it was.otherwise like any single.gender barracks he's seen in the States.
Oh, an anecdote. I would think if men and women were sharing sleeping quarters in garrison that might be an actual news story.
Once the mystery is gone, the titillating aspects also spontaneously vanish in a puff of logic, and it matters not, if it is 40 men in cotts or 20 men and 20 women.
While I agree that the separation of facilities helps protect against unconsensual activity in the barracks; it does little to nothing to stop the pursuit of consensual relationships, sexual or otherwise. As far as homosexual service members go, it is really no different than when you change in a locker room at the gym. There are gay people there and they keep to themselves in those situations. There are outliers in all situations of course, but to say that a bad actor demands prohibition of all makes no more sense than taking all guns from lawful citizens because someone held up a liquor store.
The articles I linked support my argument, you just did not read the article. Look at the numbers: 4.1% are LGBT of those, 40% are bisexual of bisexuals, 28% have outed their bisexuality to people That means that 0.45% of the USA population is bisexual and are "out". Its very likely that most people have never encountered one of those people. Learn some math. Learn to read.
If you are going to insult someone at least make sure your data is valid — Your first assumption is that 100% of Gay and Lesbians are out, they are not. So your numbers are false from the get go. Even assuming your numbers are correct, are you seriously suggesting most people have never encountered 200 people in their entire lives? Really? Desperate stretch. You continue to ignore that 4.1 percent is vastly underestimated and is self identification only. Individuals under 35 identify at rates double that. Your remark is that you have never encountered a person attracted to the same sex, statistically (even using the lowest estimate in the nation, South Dakota at 2%) if you have encountered 50 people in your life, one of them was same sex oriented. I would tell you to learn probably and statistics, but I believe your issue is simply an agenda driven lack of integrity.
WRONG. I made no assumption about gay and lesbians. You claimed a false case for bisexuals, I simply used the numbers in the article that you quoted from and proved you wrong. The 4.1% is for the entire population, and it takes into account that individuals under 35 have a higher rate. And it is completely false to claim that "if you have encountered 50 people in your life, one of them was same sex oriented". That assumes those people are evenly distributed in the population, and they are not. Read the polls. Learn to read. Learn probability. Learn to think.
