Liberals Call this Sexism

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  1. ryobi

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    As an equalitarian and civil right activist, I believe everyone should be judged as individuals based on their merit and their race and gender should not even matter-liberals call this racism and sexism.
     
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    Your statement isn't sexist or racist.

    Ignoring the impact of historical discrimination and the impact it has on people, is ignorance at best, and racist/sexist at worst.
     
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    So you feel using racism or sexism as factors is acceptable because someone may or may not have been 'harmed' by previous events or people?
     
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    I feel that you don't understand any of this, and that it's not worth trying to explain it to you.
     
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    Do liberals call that racism and sexism? Do you have any examples? I mean, I'm not a fan of simplistic deterministic labelling (you know, supporting actual egalitarianism) but I've certainly been called "liberal" in my time.

    I think the key distinction is that the idea that everyone should be treated as individuals is indeed perfect right. The sad fact is that pretty much never happens in practice. The discrimination comes in to play when people assert or believe that everyone is being treated equally but are blinkering themselves to aspects that aren't.

    There are also practical complications around determining who is being discriminated against and why, or where addressing discrimination against one group inadvertently impacts another. If it were simple, it would have been a major and ongoing issue for so long.
     
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    Really.

    It's rather simple, since your statement involves the word 'historical', unless it has a new and improved definition, means it's not something that is occurring at this time. So, events that may have impacted 'someone', but not necessarily the person in immediate consideration, should still reap the benefits of consideration regardless?

    You mean that lack of understanding?
     
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    Things that happened 50 or even 100 years ago impact women and black people today.

    I'm not going to bother giving you an explanation for that because if you need it explained to you, you aren't going to accept it anyway.
     
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    Does it ever get just a little bit tedious? I mean, all these imagined micro-aggressions and all.... Why shouldn't we ignore historic discrimination? Hasn't it ended? And because, legally, in the US, it has, what on earth is your point, other than to simply try to cobble together a grievance plan for reparations?
     
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    No
     
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    So you support the idea that 'things happened 50 or even 100 years ago continue to impact women and black people today' regardless that they made a choice about how they responded to those events, and that the majority of those issues are addressed in a legal format?

    A statement made to me years ago: building block or stumbling block, choose. According to your statement, they all must have picked stumbling block, and cannot do any better for themselves of their own volition, and require other people to be discriminated against for them to gain ground? Do you realize the insult you are promulgating?
     
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    Sorry that you are having such a hard time getting it.
     
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    I'm not, not at all. The shame of it all is, you aren't realizing the insult you cast.
     
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    Sure, the only, "deal breaker," for the next supreme court just nominated by the Democrats is she had to be black and she had to be female.
     
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    Assuming that was actually the case, which part of it involved liberals (you didn't say Democrats) calling anything racist and sexist?
     
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    I doubt it, but why don't you open a poll and find out if that is really what they say. Otherwise people might think you are bearing false witness.
     
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    You guys/gals must not get out much….

    President Biden on Friday announced his historic pick of federal judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to serve on the Supreme Court, following through on a campaign pledge to nominate the first Black woman to the nation’s highest court in its 223-year history.

    Biden introduces historic nominee Ketanji Brown Jackson, tapped to be first Black female justice - The Washington Post
     
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    fake news
     
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    You didn't answer the question.

    You said everyone should be judged as individuals based on their merit and their race and gender should not even matter-liberals call this racism and sexism.

    I haven't heard them call is racism and sexism, which is why you to open a poll so we can see if its true.
     
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    Do you believe some people should be given preferential treatment based on their race and gender and others should be denied that same preferential treatment based on their race and gender?

    Do you believe in affirmative action?
     
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    I believe opportunities should be based on merit and race and gender should not even matter. Democrats call that racism and sexism.

    Democrats believe race and gender are qualifications or disqualifications based on how fashionable or unfashionable a particular race and/or gender may or may not be.
     
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    Alright. So what's the problem here?
     
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    As I said, what does that have to do with "liberals" (distinct from Democrats or Joe Biden) calling anything sexist or racist?
     
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    My view of affirmative action has nothing to do with it. You said everyone should be judged as individuals based on their merit and their race and gender should not even matter, but liberals call this racism and sexism, and I am trying to figure out if that is true or lie, and its beginning to look like you made it up.

    But......do they?
     
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    When people specify a particular gender or race for a particular position excluding those who have the same knowledge, experience or other meritqualifications, which excludes others because they do not have those physical traits, what would you call it?

    Pandering to someone for their physical attributes to the exclusion of others.... it is racist, and sexist.
     
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    Ok, so they do not call it racism and sexism, but you do.
     
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