Los Angeles Police Chief Wants Driver's Licenses for Undocumented Immigrants

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  1. danielpalos

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    Immigration is no longer a States' right, since 1808. The several States of the Union have no Constitutional basis to care if someone is from out of State or from out of state.

    Why is it so difficult to get Americans to be moral enough to bear true witness to our own laws, instead of simply denying and disparaging less fortunate illegals?
     
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    Perhaps it's because the Illegals are causing havoc with the America We grew up with & wanted for our Grandchildren , not some Indios from the Pampas or Zacatecas ...
     
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    & Free Insurance or a waiver from having to get it...
     
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    See this is why I always say "immigration reform" is an inaccurate term used to fool the masses into thinking something is broken.

    People simply are not following the laws on the books. Rewriting these laws isn't the problem.

    Reform the people in charge of following and enforcing those existant laws, and you might just find they work fine as stands.
     
  5. Really People?

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    Nope...

    No need for that to be going on either...
     
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    That is no excuse to be immoral as Christians or any other subjective, but religious moral values which proclaim an injunction on false witness bearing.

    Why even complain about less fortunate illegals, in that case?
     
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    Because it is a public safety issue, not a States' right issue like some people would like.
     
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    It's a Human Right = Social Justice
     
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    Giving licenses to undocumented people is not going to improve anyone's driving...

    That's not to say that undocumented immigrants drive any worse than anyone else...

    It's just a matter of the fact that giving them a license would be completely disregarding immigration law...
     
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    Its the job of law enforcment to enforce laws.
     
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    We are 6 months away from "Sanctuary State" status here and the First also to give Voting Rights to recently arrived "Future Citizenry"
     
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    How is given illegals a driver licenses a public safety issue?
     
  13. danielpalos

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    I agree to disagree; otherwise, why have driver's licenses at all?

    A driver's license has nothing to do with immigration law; driver's licenses are issued by the States, not the Union, in most cases. Immigration has not been a States' right since 1808.
     
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    How does your point of view account for our federal form of government, which includes States' rights?
     
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    Its happened to myself and a member of my family. Your childish taunt aside you don't want someone who has no money and no insurance hitting you.
     
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    States are different from federal authority. The several States have no authority over immigration since 1808.
     
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    The issue is nothing new; we all remember Hillary proposing driver's licenses for illegals; governors of NY, NM and other states trying to take care of future Democratic voters. But let me ask you this - which document allows you to board domestic and some international flights?

    That's right. It is not just an issue of driving safety. It is also an issue of the air transportation safety.
     
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    Why require a license to drive, at all, if not for public safety reasons?
     
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    You disagree that driver's licenses don't improve driving skills?

    As far as I can tell, DL's are mostly for the purpose of collecting revenue for the State, no other purpose really...

    The reason I said that giving DL's to an undocumented immigrant would violate immigration law (I probably could've worded it more accurately) is that, in most States that I'm aware of, you have to provide a BC, or some sort of documentation that allows to operate legally in country to get a license...

    You couldn't do that if one were here illegally...
     
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    A DL dosn't mean you know how to drive. You do know that right? You could be the worst drive every and still have a DL. But that dosn't answer my question, how is giving a DL to an illegal a public safety issue?
     
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    So the people can be fleeced of even more of their money?

    Right next to License Plates, Registrations, Excise taxes, Inspection Stickers and those stickers you need to put on the plates every couple years.

    Cha-Ching.


    License renewal alone ran me 50 bucks last time as I recall. I just saw the price of registrations double as well.
     
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    I agree to disagree with your point of view regarding the perceived necessity of requiring persons to be licensed to drive legally in the US due to the public safety issues involved; and also for insurance purposes and that form of Capitalism in our economy.

    Immigration is no longer a States' right since 1808.
     
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    A dl should mean a person was qualified to pass an actual driving test at some point, even if only on paper to ensure knowledge of the rules of the road.

    Insurance purposes is another good Capitalist perspective.
     
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    Still, issuing a DL without a person having the necessary documentation would be a problem, no?

    Also, I know TONS of (*)(*)(*)(*)ty drivers that have valid DL's so it's not a public safety thing...
     
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    You will reverse your tune when the GOP gets the Senate & POTUS to go with even more House Gains & the Feds crack down on Border enforcement (Even in California)
     

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